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BTW....For those who may not be familiar with the term High German, it simply refers to the geographic areas where it is commonly spoken. (high elevations) It's not superior to Low German, it's just different.

PFAL...Pg. 30 ...."He said his master was so-and-so, a member of Parliament in New Delhi, who was also riding on the train. The member of Parliament then came to our compartment to tell Mrs. Wierwille and me that what he had seen in Jubbulpore was the most tremendous Christian event he had ever witnessed...." .................................................. He had supposedly just experienced a life altering event but, he doesn't remember this man's name and has to refer to him as "so-and-so/the member of Parliament"??

I'm going by memory but, my recollection is that he said he heard someone else speak in High German and recognized it. edit: Gee, imagine someone from western Ohio speaking in High German. What are the chances of that? <_<

Pg. 197 "...a piece of mail came regarding a Full Gospel Rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Oh, all the great names were going to be there, including a would-be-rising star in Pentecostalism - Oral Roberts." ............. .............. "I met someone, told him my need, and he got all excited. He said he'd introduce me to some great men. They'd lay hands on me and lead me into tongues." "So before the meeting they got together, nine great men, in one room. They started praying, then three or four laid hands on me, and finally one of them said, 'Speak another language.' So I spoke Greek. I quoted the first chapter of John. Well, they started jumping up and down. They thought I had received and told me to speak in another language." "So I did. I spoke in Hebrew - quoted from Genesis, and they got all excited, congratulating themselves about it." "But in my heart, I knew I wasn't speaking in tongues...." ...................................................... ...................................................... "So I spoke in Greek. I quoted the first chapter of John" Can you imagine Wierwille ever knowing enough Greek to quote the first chapter of John?...... extemporaneously??

Hey, O.E. You're right, I'm not in your shoes. I think I may have gotten mine at the same store, though.

"I'll show those durn heathens, by golly!"

How does a country preacher from Cornfield County, Ohio suddenly develop a fascination for a culture on the other side of the world that is so disparate to his own?

"We sure do love you." :o

PFAL = Pay For Absconded Lessons.

From linked thread: p. 172.....Mrs. Wierwille's book Born Again to Serve "Dr. Wierwille had designated Dr. Williams as the general overseer of The Way of India, with its headquarters in Bombay, as had been voted at the convention held on February 9 and 10 [1956]. Branches for each state of India were to be established as soon as possible, all under and by the independent national Christians without a foreign system of control. Mr. James John was to be secretary for The Way of India." ........................................................... But...but...but....The guy was opposed to proselytizing! Here's what he said: "I dislike proselytization in any form." ......................................................... I guess there really was a dilemma. How can you establish branches if you are against witnessing?

The PFAL class, itself, was stolen (yes, I said stolen.) from B.G. Leonard and later expanded with works from people such as Bullinger, Stiles, Kenyon and so on. Where does that leave us if the root source (PFAL) was corrupted to begin with?

Excerpts: "None of the ecclesiastical dignitaries such as Bishops or Archbishops receive any salary. They all do honorary work." "We have preachers but not paid ones. They have their independent means of livelihood." "I dislike proselytization in any form." ............................................................................. Apparently, he and Wierwille were miles apart on these issues.

I have to wonder if Wierwille was maybe playing one of his shell games, hoping that people would confuse Rev. I. S. Williams with THIS person. I realize the chronology is a bit off but, that never stopped VP on many other points. ALSO

...and here's the kicker....Mrs. W.'s book was the sanitized version....So, even the sanitized version can't stand up to scrutiny.

I try to stay out of the fray. Sometimes, though, even innocuous statements are misconstrued and turned into something political by the other person. This happens with religious issues, as well....make a simple statement and, all of a sudden you're blasted with a teaching from The Blue Book. It reminds me of how we were taught in W&U to always be looking for "the open door". I've never un-friended anyone but, I know I've been un-friended because of statements that didn't agree with TWI doctrine. It's too bad we can't get past all that. What good is discussion if only one point of view is acceptable?

Sometimes the frontage direction of a structure will affect the property taxes but, with TWI being a 501c, I don't see how that would apply.

When I was a wee lad, I used to take clothes pins and fasten baseball cards to my bicycle wheel. When the spokes passed over the cards, it sounded a bit like a motorbike. When you're 5 or 6 years old, you think someone may actually think you're riding a motorbike. The Way reminds me of a little kid, repeatedly fastening old cards to their spokes, hoping someone will believe their deception.

From linked article: "It was amazing to me that for 500 years, people didn't sense the errors," said Cohen, who wears a knitted skullcap and a gray goatee. "They just assumed that everything was fine, but in practice everything was not fine." Ignore the 500 year time frame and you could just as well be talking about how offshoots revere the PFAL class series.

I missed my 10th,20th,30th and 40th. Will there be a 50th? I don't know. I'll probably miss that one, too. Besides, most of the guys I would have liked to see again never made it back from Nam in one piece. I'm glad you had a good time, though. I really mean that. edit: I'm not sure why I posted this. I don't spend much time thinking about it. Probably because it usually leaves me feeling a bit melancholy.

We mustn't consider. VP said so in session seven. Eve tried it once and look what happened to her!

Chronology And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass , that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken , but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. .................................................. I don't know Greek or any of that sort of thing but, it appears to me, this is speaking in a present tense, here and now sort of vain, not in a futuristic manner. I mean, how are you going to be afraid (or not) of something that's centuries away? This is why I find it pointless to rationalize what I see as contradictions. When I was 8 years old, my father told me not to climb the big tree in the schoolyard because I could fall and get hurt. I climbed it anyway, fell and broke my arm. I think he meant to not climb it then, when I was 8 years old, not 20 or 30 years later. After I got the cast off, I went and did something else stupid that he had warned me about and broke the other arm. Maybe I got a double dose of prophesy.

That sounds a bit like superstition.

Don't forget about Me and You and .

....ins Schwarze treffen = hit the mark How did he get Tick out of that?? (Triff, I can kinda see.... but Tick?...not so much.) :wacko: I think he probably should have settled on a Dachshund and named it "Li'l Wiener".