waysider

No, it's not the same. One is much worse than the other.

Austin, Texas----The Live Music Capital of The World Maybe they're hoping to resurrect Joyful Noise.

Isn't that a Lionel Richie tune? :)

I don't mean to sound as though I have no compassion for these kids because I do-------as individuals. But, from the perspective of the organization, do we really hope they achieve any level of success?

"Whoowee!" said my grandson Cletus (that's his name.), "One peek at Ol' Sparky (the electric chair) is pert near 'nuff to scare the Devil out of even the meanest old cooter." My other grandson, Cleophus, (who is ordinarily the ornery one.) just shook his head in agreement.

I know there were long term Way followers in N.E. Ohio and Central Ohio as early as the 1950s. Florida, I don't know about. Sorry.

It was like an 8th grade science experiment gone horribly wrong.

Rivers always had an uncanny knack for doing covers and making them his own. This is, happily, no exception.

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Socks said: "It sounds like we're generally agreeing that unless the religious beliefs effect behavior in such a way that the individual is harmed it's not a reasonable means of defining what is or isn't a "cult"." Agreed.

I'm not sure I understand. But, here is part of another song that addresses that "oneness". For deep within we two are one Yet can not understand We've not been born We're centuries old We're buried 'neath the land

Daylight takes me far away To you it does the same Moving through the noisy streets Like pawns in someones' game Time goes by so slowly

In the 1970s, there were FellowLaborer programs in multiple locations. If I understand correctly, there were programs in Ohio, Kentucky, California and Florida. Perhaps there were others. I really don't know. Curiously, there was no uniformity. The California program was 6 months. The Kentucky program was one year. The Ohio program was 2 years. Some people lived on-site. Some people lived off-site, etc. Oh, I understand the logic of needing people to maintain limb facilities and coordinate statewide activities, but, was it really necessary to have programs that were specifically dedicated to that purpose? My personal theory (and I think this accounts for the diversity.) is that Wierwille was experimenting with franchise models. The Corps was growing at an exponential rate. I think VPW saw it as an opportunity to expand that type of product model into multiple markets via franchise-like programs. Any thoughts?

Oh, heck, you don't have to look any farther than the GSC political forum to get the skinny on that.

Cool to the max!

Meet Sonny B.

"Don't date your students" Good advise. Probably not advisable to "study your dates", either----at least, not too closely. Might not like everything you find.

I'm not sure where they stand on the Trinity issue, but, it's my opinion THESE GUYS fit the profile of a "cult".

I've got sunshine on a cloudy day

SPOOKY

I think the whole world is fightin' about The Same Thing.