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Good point. It begs the question: Does anyone "need" to live ABUNDANTLY? Seems like the genuine "need" for most people would be to live ADEQUATELY.

Did the place have red drapes?

I wasn't trying to be facetious with that photo. It accompanied an article at THIS link that briefly examines the misconception of cult members being zombie-like. To read the full article, click on The Myth of "The Zombie Kool Aid Death Cult" in the upper right-hand corner

Date and Switch (And that's a euphemism for what REALLY went on many times.)

Jonestown

Ramona Hannig-Mitchell-Bidon

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:eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: No TV, no reading materials other than ministry publications, no music other that way productions, very limited phone time, not allowed to leave the campus except with express permission - usually a couple hours on a Saturday, days spent working STS - way mag - present truth in study hall and then working crappy menial jobs....read work/study program. Hard edged and dangerous work projects like "harvesting" firewood from the Gunnison national forest. We were under constant surveillance by the corpse coordinator and other way corpse staff. We were isolated from the outside world and even the staff who worked at the campus. We were not allowed visitors or phone calls except for a little time in the evenings or on Saturday. This lifestyle was absolutely horrible. I came close to leaving so many times. The entire process numbs people down to mindless zombies who've learned when to genuflect and spew the necessary cliches to stay mercifully under radar. By the time a person graduates they are changed. This part, except for a few minor details, could well be a description of my experience in Fellow Laborers. Others' experiences may have, of course, been different.

I like having Shout at the top again.

The people looked happy in the footage shot at Jonestown, too.

They all pimped for V.P. (You know he wasn't really a doctor, don't you?) Wierwille.

You tell lies thinkin' I can't see. You can't cry 'cause you're laughin' at me.

(go round and round)--------John Lennon

http://www.greasespotcafe.com/gsradio/audio/gsradio-2006-04-08-57420.mp3 http://www.greasespotcafe.com/gsradio/audio/gsradio-2006-04-12-58143.mp3

I think they were/are more concerned with expanding the core base of people that ABS rather than focusing on increasing individual amounts. I'm not sure creating a veneer of legitimacy in the community was ever a high priority.

It's your turn.

Once upon a time you dressed so fine and threw the bums a dime, in your prime, didn't you?

Wierwille would have told you the moon was made of green cheese if he thought that's what you wanted to hear.

Maybe he meant "spiritual" welfare.

Nah. It doesn't have to be the first line. Ideally, those are the coolest ones (IMO) but it can be from anywhere in the tune as long as it's easily recognized and doesn't contain the title.(example: ) You also do not need to identify the artist for this thread.

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I could be wrong but I think it was colon cancer that did him in.

To tell you the truth, Fellow Laborers pretty well squelched any aspiration I had for a leadership position. Like many others, I was just relieved when the whole fiasco was finally over.

So much for the green and red symbols, I think we need another one that's blue. That one could mean, "Man, this cat really bums me out!" (ie: makes me "blue")