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Maslow's hierarchy of needs: http://psychology.about.com/od/theoriesofpersonality/a/hierarchyneeds.htm You have to pay people a fair wage if you expect them to grow in responsibility and commitment to self-betterment.

Yeah---It would have been shorter --------a whole bunch shorter.

The minimum wage was first instituted in Australia and New Zealand in the 1890s in response to frequent, bitter strikes and was adopted by Massachusetts in 1912 to cover women and children. With voters seeking a bulwark against the Great Depression, wage-hour legislation was an issue in the 1936 Presidential race. On the campaign trail, a young girl handed a note to one of Franklin Roosevelt's aides asking for help: "I wish you could do something to help us girls," it read. "Up to a few months ago we were getting our minimum pay of $11 a week...Today the 200 of us girls have been cut down to $4 and $5 and $6 a week." Roosevelt rode back into office in part on a promise to seek a constitutional way of protecting workers; in 1923, the Supreme Court had struck down a Washington, D.C., minimum-wage law, finding it impeded a worker's right to set his own price for his labor. The first federal minimum-wage law, the Fair Labor Standards Act, passed in 1938, with a 25-cent-per-hour wage floor and a 44-hour workweek ceiling for most employees. (It also banned child labor.) Outside of Social Security, said Roosevelt, the law was "the most far-sighted program for the benefit of workers ever adopted." Wages must ensure a "minimum standard of living necessary for health, efficiency and general well-being," the act stipulated, "without substantially curtailing employment." http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1912435,00.html

"The views expressed do not necessarily represent the views of this station -----yada yada yada" In other words----I'm just answering your question, not giving my personal take on things.

I'll try, soul searcher, but remember, TWI doctrine is built out of thousands of tiny little pieces, put together like a leggo robot. Q.#1 Yes, Twi doctrine maintains that the devil (the "adversary") controls the "senses/natural" world. Do you remember an old song called, "He's Got the Whole World in His Hands"? Way theology maintained that the song was talking about the devil, not God or Jesus. I guess you were supposed to feel spiritually mature (ie: smug) if you realized the "real' meaning of the song. Now, the only way to "escape" the adversary was to stay in "the one true household of God" (read:The Way)because God had a hedge of protection erected around it. Of course, there were other requirements, such as renewed mind and speaking in tongues, also, that went along with that. Q.#2 Much secular music was labeled "devilish" because it supposedly carried subliminal /ambiguous meanings, meant to trick you out of The Word. An example would be a song like . Since, according to Way thinking, "what you confess is what you possess", by singing these words, you were subconsciously giving control to the adversary. Didn't too much matter what the song was, they always found some "deper, spiritual" meaning to the lyrics Also, Wierwille said that artistic virtuosity of any sort was only obtainable through "selling out", either to the devil or to God. Naturally, that meant you had to forego secular influences and focus exclusively on Way sanctioned art.Q.#3 Wierwille taught that cancer was caused by devil possession. I'm not sure I ever heard him talk about it being at a cellular, biological level. I mean, you were either possessed or you weren't. That's a spiritual thing, not an anatomical thing. Is it clear as mud now?

One of my old acting coaches used to say,"You don't have to fall down a flight stairs to play the part of a character with a broken arm."

That seems logical but I don't know if statistics bare that out.

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Yep. Plan the adverary out of your life, speak in tongues much, fill your mind with endless retemories----- It all accomplishes the same end. It keeps your mind so occupied with mental busy work that you don't have time to objectively consider the big picture.

"I recall Dr Wierwille saying once that when a man is a homosexual God is displeased but when a woman becomes a lesbian "God spits". That is perhaps the worst thing I have ever heard uttered by a human being... It made me proclaim in my heart that "God is a lesbian" just to repair the damage DW did to my mind." Why would you give any credibility at all to that worthless piece of dung?

I wonder if they'll have one of those secret inner sanctum initiation things around a bon fire. You know, the one with the blindfolds and hooded priests and hot stuff to burn your tongue. Now that would be awesome! Totally awesome!

Yeah, but did Crowley ever see any snow magically appear on gas pumps? I rest my case.

Looking at it geographically and chronologically, I would say the chances are pretty slim. They did, however, seem to share a similar opinion of women.

I read it years ago, though I don't recall if it was mandatory. It's no wonder VPW recommended this guy's work. He probably saw him as some sort of role model.

soul searcher I hope you know we're funnin' with you. "Private interpretation" is at the heart of all that is "evil" in Wayville.

Was Lady Macbeth an AC grad? Out, damned spot! out, I say! (probably an "unclean" spirit)

Oh my God! By TWI standards, you've just committed blasphemy! :P "Knowing this WHEN, class?-- FIRST ---NO prophesy of the scriptures is of any WHAT, class?--PRIVATE INTERPRETATION. Dat's Riiiiiiggggghhhhht! God's Word has a purpose for everything it says----where it says it, when it says it, how it says it and to whom it says it. You see, class, it fits like a hand in a glove, with scientific precision and mathematical accuracy. In this class on power for abundant living I'm going to teach you to be able to understand it in a way that you'll "know that you know that you know", beyond a shadow of a doubt, what it really means. And, if you still don't understand what it means, you just write to me, "The Teacher" and I'll TELL you what it means." disclaimer: somewhat paraphrased and condensed on account of my memory ain't what it used to be.

Well said, Groucho Sad thing is, I remember when Gary D. went off grounds in 1973 or 1974 and was killed in a car wreck. All the buzz around the ministry was that the reason he died was because he defied revelation from the man of God. ----Sick, Sick, Sick

If anyone could put it in the correct perspective, I knew it would be you.

Your wisdom belies your youth.

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Good point, excie. And there were those, also, who died trying to prove the law of believing was real.

I doubt you'll find many here who read I Ching during their TWI years. That sort of thing was considered to be a "counterfeit from the pit of hell". Reading that sort of thing was thought to be an invitation to the devil to sneak in through the trap door of your unrenewed mind. (Fallacious Spirit)

I'm sure there are probably people who are alive today because of their Way involvement, though I can't think of any specific examples. On the other hand, there are also people who are dead today because of their Way involvement. For those, I can think of specific examples. But, my point, really, was that the expression, itself, became somewhat of a pledge of allegiance to the organization. Except in specific, verifiable cases, it was really just a parroted phrase that perpetuated itself down through the years as a rallying cry to remain loyal to the cult. People repeated it without any real concern for it's veracity.