Seth R.

Another book that won't cost a down payment on a house like Passages Malibu does is one by Dr. Gabor Mate' in it he discusses the root causes of addiction. http://www.amazon.com/Realm-Hungry-Ghosts-Encounters-Addiction/dp/155643880X Again any questions you can email me. Seth

I'm feeling better now. Was rough getting my blood sugar stable. But I'm feeling pretty good.

Rational Recovery, no meetings, no sponsors, no stupid steps, just a cheap book you can find a copy on Amazon or buy from their website. https://rational.org/ You don't need to buy the book to get started just click "Crash Course On AVRT" that will give you the basics. Any questions Email me Have fun and be safe. Seth

This year has been difficult, I'm not well, having to many TWI flash backs. I'm very sick with complications of type 2 diabetes, been in the process of getting my blood sugar stable and it's driving me mad. Anyway I'm not asking for attention, I just wanted to pop in and see what was going on. Seth You can find me on facebook if you try...

Earlier this week I was feeling down and was going to start a new thread about it. Decided not, thought I'd just deal with it, I did. So there I dealt with my own stuff and just have to say it's great to be out of TWI. I got some of the worst advise from twi people, pray, speak in tongues, are you tithing? Maybe your believing is off. Yeah thanks whatever. LOL Seth

Believing one could live for ever and then drinking booze and smoking kools like it was going out of style not so smart.

Telomeres are the key, support your telomeres and sirtuin proteins and you can extend your health span, meaning how long you will live a healthy life. Anyone who wants more information can email me about it. seth.i.rosen@gmail.com ;) Seth

My opinion, after all these years I know why I have PTSD. Seriously in some senses we were encouraged to take risks and push the envelope, unless you were helping a branch coordinator put a new shingle roof on, then all safety precautions will be adhered to. Seth

Not much has changed since 29 September 2010 my last post. Oh now don't get all excited I'm not "back" it's just that I'm coming up on 20 years since going WOW to Fort Meyers Fla. I got to remembering all you folks from Way Dale and those crazy days of real drunken madness online so angry so victimized. I figured I'd visit and see what is going on, I want to thank you all for talking me through it, I'm not that guy anymore, and I'm happy. I'm still an atheist, still loving atheism. Anyone want to catch up with me I'm on facebook seth.i.rosen don't add me to any groups, I don't care about rehashing the TWI days I've moved on to doing all the stuff TWI told us not to do, and it's F'ing sweet. Seth

My Mom went that year, St. Mary's California I think. Seth

But wait this is the canon of scripture, are you allowed to love some and ignore others? Wouldn't that cast doubt on you as a true believer? You can't just accept parts of the bible and reject others and call yourself a christian. Yet that's what people do, they say in public one thing but in private wish for the vengeful god to come back as in days of old and execute swift judgment on infidels like me. I say, bring it! Let's see what gods or devils can do, I'm calling them out right now in public on the world wide platform come and get me. See nothing. Nadda, zip, zilch,oh wait I feel a pinch in my stomach, oh, no it was gas. Seth

I was doing some thinking on the story of Cain and Able, I have several problems with it from a moral and mental health perspective. I will try to break it down as sibling competition, dysfunctional family values, immature passive aggressive father figure. The idea that god accepted Able's sacrifice because it was a lamb and didn't accept Cains because it was grain is mean, tyrannical. The idea that god didn't give an out for Cain by telling him just give Able your sacrifice for a lamb and I will accept that, a win win win situation, god wins because he gets a worthy sacrifice and avoids the murder of Able, Able wins because he gets some quality grain and keeps his life, and Cain wins because he remains worthy in gods eyes and doesn't become a murderer. The stories in the bible are twisted and mentally unsound, they promote unhealthy relationships and foster division. Seth

Dude I'm not looking for answers, I'm trying to get people to actually think about what they are reading. You did not answer my questions. You used no science. The Koala's and kangaroos swam from Australia to Africa and walked all the way to the ark? Seth

What Flood? You keep referring to a flood that was I'm guessing worldwide? Is that even possible? It is not according to the scientific evidence. So strike one, no flood no need for Noah. Ok I concede the fact that a significant number of the 3 to 30 million species are aquatic and in some other form immune to death by flood. Alright then, how many species could fit in this Ark, with enough food to make the voyage for a couple months? The figures I have are from http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/sizeark.html ark displacement 22,000 tons, gross tonnage 15,000, volume 1.5 million cubic feet, equal to 569 railroad stock cars. Now to satisfy the biblical requirement Noah may only have needed between 2,000 and around 35,000 animals, an ark of this size would easily fit 40,000 animals leaving 70% of it free for food and living quarters. OK fine, but this is what get's me. There are a high number of species that are unique to certain geographical locations. Australia has Kangaroo's, Wallabies and Koalas along with a dozen or so others I can't remember, did Noah go all the way to Australia to get them? What about the giant Panda and lesser Pandas from China, did he go to China for those? OK let's assume he did, now after the flood did he go back to Australia to return the indigenous species, and did he do the same for China? Your question of knowing how many were extinct is a loaded question because it would fail to explain the huge diversity in species of dog horse cat and other animals within the relatively short time of 4,000 to 5,000 years. The other thing that also get's me is that there would have to be a significant hazard from all the dangerous predators and venomous animals, every venomous snake would need to be onboard. I mean you'd have hungry lions and tigers, and bears, oh my! 8 people took care of all these things? I just don't know. The more I think about it, it just doesn't add up. Seth

Charlene, Beautiful article one of the best I've read here thank you for publishing it. To equate a book of literature with a book of mathmatical formulas is not an axiom [Who] would ask to have proof for the non-existence of something[?] Atheists like me believe in the non-existence of god, not because there *is* proof of the non-existence of god, but that there *isn't* proof of the existence of god. A scientist always starts with I don't know, not I believe, so in research you can't start with an assumption and treat it as evidence for the types of experiments you will and will not do. Saying the in-errancy of the bible in an axiom precludes real serious study because you aren't a skeptic, you are a true believer the true researcher is skeptical even of their own findings that's why there are so many peer review journals in science. Where are the peer review journals in TWI or religion at large? The assumption that what the bible says about itself is in any way reliable with out being tested is crazy, go back and read the first two chapters of Genesis and really try to have no preconceived notions about it. Does it make sense? Truly? Does it contain no contradictions? Really? The first two chapters of Genesis is so incomprehensible I can't believe it isn't filed under fiction 200 years ago or at least poetry. Then the story of Noah, pure bunk! Every animal by two? Check out how many animals species there are including insects, between 3 and 30 million! So collect 6 to 60 million animals insects included, house them and feed them for a couple months? The Ark would have to be size of 20 cruise ships unless you are Dr. Who and have a TARDIS, and this was all to be done by 8 people? Come on! get a freaking clue! Seth

What's next NASCAR church? Here comes the pastor around turn four, OH! He just wiped out the back pew, the choir director raises the yellow flag, and the pastor driving for team Jesus limps back to the pulpit where he'll have to finish his sermon.

I think '79 is way to early for the "Twig Hopper" as it was a Gift to VP unveiled during the 40th anniversary gala crap which places it circa 1982, that's if my memory serves me. As far as where is it? I'm sure they have it stored away somewhere waiting for the 75th anniversary in 2017, when they can roll out all the stuff and bask in the glory of the good old days. Seth

Very awesome post Twinky. Seth

You sign up for a program that asks you to leave your job and home for a year, bring $600 in travelers checks, get sent to a town you never lived, with people you never met to work 20 hrs a week to pay rent and give 10%. To knock on doors 40 hours a week to play a 36 hour 12 session class several times that year, we did 7 or 8 I can't remember it was 17 years ago. They call it WOW, and said you'll grow 10 years spiritually in 1. All I got was a serious case of suicidal ideation. Seth

She might LOOK ugly but she FEELS pretty!

10 year testicular cancer survivor here, did surgery's and chemo. Early detection is key with anything especially cancer. The earlier it's detected the less radical stuff you need to do, like I had 2 rounds of chemo versus the normal 4 for those who had it spread. One thing is for sure I don't fear cancer like I did when I was in TWI. You know dogma about cancer being devil spirits and such. Cancer cells are just like college students on spring break, cell gone wild. LOL All kidding aside if you think you have something don't wait get it looked at, it may be nothing but it's better check and it be nothing. Seth

Hi Miketheorgasmist, wel-come to the G-Spot. LOL! I'm Seth, I'm an Atheist! Wheeee!

I had 2 copies of the book. One I bought at the ROA it was released at and another was one I bought specifically so LCM could sign it. They both have lng since been turned to electricity in the local trash to stem plant. Seth