Thomas Loy Bumgarner

On 10/15/2018 at 10:57 AM, Thomas Loy Bumgarner said:

I still have the CD's of Paulo Dionisio/Selah(not to be confused with the South African trio of more recent times), and Good Seed. Wish Joe, Paul and Ralph of Pressed Down had converted their records into CD format and likewise Joyful Noise(although I do have Ted's and Dean's cd's). I wonder what they think of Hillsong, Third Day, Newsboys, NewSong, Don Moen, Israel Haughton, Ron Kenoly, Bob Fits, and others.

Some of them would have said nice music but the lyrics are off of The Word. Yes same group of Israel and the New Breed from Joel Osteen's church. Probably negative remarks for Chris Tomlin and Paul Baloche.

On 10/13/2018 at 4:14 PM, DontWorryBeHappy said:

Buzzard is affiliated with his non-accredited self-important Bible “College”, Atlanta Bible College. Vinny sent his heir apparent, son Sean, there to get his first fake, non-accredited degree....you know like the one pops got from Emporia and Rome City? Bwaaaahahahaha! Also, the VP apparent, Victor Paul Gluckin went there and amassed a couple of fake degrees himself. 

And, yes, Buzzard has his roots in Garner Ted Armstrong’s Worldwide Church Of God. His “college” serves as a degree mill for the leftovers of the church scattered around the world, as well as various congregational, alt-right fundamentalist churches. Vinny took his connections from TWIt worldwide outreach leftovers in Africa, The Philippines, and India and parlayed them into an impressive on paper mission operation garnering him affiliation with Buzzard, the college, and various other denominations and cults which funnel students to Atlanta Bible College. LHMI gets the fake legitimacy they crave just like their faddah-in-da-woid, and Atlanta Bible College gets new student referrals plus the image of having worldwide impact and outreach. Shams begetting shams to leave as inheritances to their sham kids! What a shame!

Didn't Ernest Martin(Star of Bethlehem) also come out from WCOG? He Started his group ASK-Ascertain Scriptural Knowledge?

BTW, who moves from Payne to New Knoxville in a blizzard? Did the house in Payne, was it rented? Did the landlord set a date for the Wierwilles to move out?

On 12/11/2018 at 9:20 PM, Rocky said:

How do we know they haven't visited GSC?

They would have gotten correct information and not gotten some misinformation.

21 hours ago, penworks said:

Thanks, DogLover. I see that book by Mrs. W. sells for $102.99 on Amazon. Think I'll pass. :-) It's not THAT important to me now ... it was published long after I left (in 1987) and I have enough history of TWI stashed in my own files to fill several more books of my own. But don't think I will write any more books pertaining to TWI. One was enough for me!

 

Interestingly I got my copy for $60 back in 2000

I wanted their site to have us leave comments, correcting them on WOW, The Word(not The Way) over the World and that Deluise is now President, no longer Rivenbark. They did mention John Juddes. Wish they had visited Greasepot Cafe for more and better information.

On 11/10/2018 at 11:49 AM, Thomas Loy Bumgarner said:

BTW, whatever happened to Salty Oats and New Knoxville Green? Did they become part of Way Productions?

inquiring minds want to know, also Sonrise and other bands mentioned that were not recorded on LP's/cd's

possible follow up is also slated the same night as Leah Remini's Scientology starting with Word of Faith Churches

New season begins November 27

A and E is re-running Season 2 tonight and at 10pm. Leah interviews former members of Jehovah's Witness and their similarities to Scientology. I wish she and Mike had instead interviewed, Karl, Kristin, and Charlene.

BTW, whatever happened to Salty Oats and New Knoxville Green? Did they become part of Way Productions?

On 8/30/2018 at 8:52 PM, Rocky said:

Citation please, Thomas.

Info I saw was Google

I bet some people were hoping VPW would be electrocuted or that the gathering together would occur and poor Vic would be alone on stage with everyone else beamed up to heaven

You mean traffic circle? LOL, sorry Twinky

Don't forget VPW added EW Kenyon's books to PFAL

I still have the CD's of Paulo Dionisio/Selah(not to be confused with the South African trio of more recent times), and Good Seed. Wish Joe, Paul and Ralph of Pressed Down had converted their records into CD format and likewise Joyful Noise(although I do have Ted's and Dean's cd's). I wonder what they think of Hillsong, Third Day, Newsboys, NewSong, Don Moen, Israel Haughton, Ron Kenoly, Bob Fits, and others.

On 10/9/2018 at 3:19 PM, Galen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuIjVWnhyKw

:)That is part 2, Part 1 has people coming to the Rock

 

 

I saw yesterday the full 60 minute Rock of Age Film produced by Bud Morgan, divided into 2 parts on You Tube. I believe this was the CBS Sunday Morning program This is the Life(not sure if that was the correct title). i think remembering it was edited down to 30/35 minutes. I haven't seen that since 1975. Boy, that was a Christian hippie Woodstock. DWBH with long hair and beard, Selah with Paul Vergillio and Kristiana Linder Perez, Pressed Down(boy Joe Fair was a kid). How many  of you remember that event?

Obviously, no negative or critical comments allowed. implication is if you do reject my suggestions/requirements, then you are a cancer to the Body of Christ(Wierwille) and pose a threat to me. Same as McCarthy, Cohen, and Trump, bloated egos.

Actually Loy is the last name of Lutheran pastor Matthias Loy of the 1800's and was quite famous.

WCE campus is now owned by Emporia State University, chapel belongs to an independent mega church denomination.

My, tastes in Christian music is traditional pipe organ and choral(Lutheran, Episcopalian/Anglican, Russian Orthodox, Catholic, Moravian). Any CCM I listen to is Hillsongs, Paul Baloche, Newsboys, Don Moen, Lincoln Brewster, etc.

14 hours ago, Grace Valerie Claire said:

Chock, thank God I am not a Mormon; I wouldn't want to be in a cult for the rest of my life.

You almost were with TWI, you little snarky monkey

On 11/11/2017 at 5:00 PM, Grace Valerie Claire said:

David, and Sky, thanks for the information.  Sky, it never dawned on me, that teaching a "live class" would be so hard for VPW.  Gee, wasn't he "The Teacher?"  Teachers teach "live classes" for years, and years.  Most of the teachers I had were happy (I hope!) When I asked questions.  I used to ask a lot of thoughtful(to me anyway) questions in various classes I took.  Can you imagine someone asking VPW a question about the Bible??  He might not have been able to answer it; God forbid should he have said "I don't know?"  I would have thought that VPW would have known that he wasn't capable of teaching a real class, and not pretended otherwise.  Perhaps he realized during the filming of that class in 1977, that many students would see through his facade, and know that he ran a bogus Ministry, if he continued to film a live class.

Why didn't Walter Cummins teach the class instead of VPW? Wierdwillies arrogance would not allow him

This past Sunday and Today at 12 noon was the 2 part finale to the A&E series hosted by Elizabeth Vargas of ABC News.