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Longhunter last won the day on February 16 2019

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  1. He's not out of tWI, just demoted. I think he was placed out west in the northern rockies/plains like in Montana or Idaho or somewhere like that. I can't remember the exact place.
  2. At tomorrow’s STService (March 8, 2020) The Way will announce that they are replacing Jean-Yves De Lisle as President of TWI. As many of you know, 4-ish years ago there was a huge push back against Rosalie and she “stepped down” as President, but retained a new position, she controlled everything from this shadow office. She had hand picked De Lisle to do her bidding, but she has been upset that he’s spineless with others (he’s only supposed to be that way with her). This week Rosalie instructed him to resign and he will be leaving HQ for another role. They will, of course, spin this differently during the announcement. His replacement has not officially been selected, but the name I believe to be at the top of the short list is Vern Edwards of Columbus, OH who runs the state here. He worked in the Architecture and Engineering Department at HQ during the 1990s. He’s probably their best pick in that he’s fairly competent and genuinely a decent guy. I guess we will see if he loses that under Rosalie’s thumb. At this point, it’s safe to say RR is a megalomaniac and has no checks and balances and is really in a bad place mentally. I think we will see either another wave of fallout evacuees (reaction to her loose handle antics) or some major push back against her internally that results in her full removal or a splintering of leadership (more offshoots). It’s just not looking good for them. I can update as available.
  3. Hi, Longhunter.

    I'm looking for an audio tape on which VPW would have recounted the revelation he said God gave him, "He told me He would teach me the Word like it had not been known since the first century if I would teach it to others."  Following this, he says he asked for a sign that God had really spoken to him and when he looked out his office window, it was snowing … I have the book, The Way Living in Love where he tells this story, but I'm trying to find a tape recording of his saying it.

    I am pretty sure he told that story in the original PFAL class, which I took in 1970. You don't happen to know where I can get a copy of that particular session do you?

    Thanks for your time,

    Charlene Edge



    1. Longhunter


      I can look for it. However, I believe the account is also retold in “Born Again to Serve” by Dorothy Kipp Wierwille (his widow, though book was ghost written.   

    2. penworks


      Thanks for trying.


  4. LOL I personally know everyone on that panel. Wish I could've pitched 'em some fast balls on live stream.
  5. Any plans for another 6th reunion? I'd try to get my Dad to go, that was his corps.
  6. Here's a much better debate. I'm not just saying that since I've done show with both individuals. In my opinion, they are the best debaters in the world for their side.
  7. I grew up at HQ and our 8th grade Washington DC trip was not allowed to visit the Holocaust Museum per Way instructions, that was 1998.
  8. Several problems: A liger may share some properties with a tiger, but is not a Tiger. There is no middle ground. Similarly with a God. You can define it how you want, but it is either A or not A. Please demonstrate an alternative to A or not A. Atheism is not an assertion that God does not exist, merely not accepting the claim. You are conflating theism/atheism with gnosticism/agnosticism. I'm using the true dichotomy of accepting the claim and not accepting the claim. There is no middle ground. There may be diferent concepts of God, but far any of them, you either accept it or do not accept it, without middle ground.
  9. that may be an example, but the direct analogy would be" Something is either a Tiger or not a tiger". There is no middle ground. You are either a theist or not a theist.
  10. No, something is either A or Not A. You either accept a claim or you do not. That's a direct negation of the statement. It is by necessity and by definition a true dichotomy. To deny that is a formal logical fallacy.
  11. This is a basic fact of logic. You are claiming a middle ground in a dichotomy, that's a logical violation. Law of Identity Something is what it is and isn't what it is not. Something that exists has a specific nature. Law of Non-Contradiction Something cannot be both true and false at the same time in the same sense. Law of Excluded Middle A statement is either true or false, without a middle ground.
  12. What's the 3rd option between accepting a claims as true and not accepting a claim as true?
  13. No, that's what a true dichotomy is, by definition. This is basic logic. There is no middle ground between accepting a claim and not accepting a claim.
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