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Longhunter

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  1. LOL I personally know everyone on that panel. Wish I could've pitched 'em some fast balls on live stream.
  2. Any plans for another 6th reunion? I'd try to get my Dad to go, that was his corps.
  3. Here's a much better debate. I'm not just saying that since I've done show with both individuals. In my opinion, they are the best debaters in the world for their side.
  4. I grew up at HQ and our 8th grade Washington DC trip was not allowed to visit the Holocaust Museum per Way instructions, that was 1998.
  5. Several problems: A liger may share some properties with a tiger, but is not a Tiger. There is no middle ground. Similarly with a God. You can define it how you want, but it is either A or not A. Please demonstrate an alternative to A or not A. Atheism is not an assertion that God does not exist, merely not accepting the claim. You are conflating theism/atheism with gnosticism/agnosticism. I'm using the true dichotomy of accepting the claim and not accepting the claim. There is no middle ground. There may be diferent concepts of God, but far any of them, you either accept it or do not accept it, without middle ground.
  6. that may be an example, but the direct analogy would be" Something is either a Tiger or not a tiger". There is no middle ground. You are either a theist or not a theist.
  7. No, something is either A or Not A. You either accept a claim or you do not. That's a direct negation of the statement. It is by necessity and by definition a true dichotomy. To deny that is a formal logical fallacy.
  8. This is a basic fact of logic. You are claiming a middle ground in a dichotomy, that's a logical violation. Law of Identity Something is what it is and isn't what it is not. Something that exists has a specific nature. Law of Non-Contradiction Something cannot be both true and false at the same time in the same sense. Law of Excluded Middle A statement is either true or false, without a middle ground.
  9. What's the 3rd option between accepting a claims as true and not accepting a claim as true?
  10. No, that's what a true dichotomy is, by definition. This is basic logic. There is no middle ground between accepting a claim and not accepting a claim.
  11. You can't be neither. They are a true dichotomy. You either accept the claim that a god exists or you do not accept it. There is no middle ground. Also, if you are not agnostic, that is a claim that you do know weather a god exists or not.
  12. A fun new error I noticed last week: "Moses" wrote the account of Abraham 500 years after and called a location of Abraham as "Dan". Then after Moses died, a new account occurs where the land is finally named "Dan". How did Moses call it "Dan" for Abraham despite it being named that not until after Moses died? Genesis 14:14 When Abram heard that his relative had been taken captive, he called out the 318 trained men born in his household and went in pursuit as far as Dan. Judges 18:1 In those days Israel had no king. And in those days the tribe of the Danites was seeking a place of their own where they might settle, because they had not yet come into an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. Judges 18:29 They named it Dan after their ancestor Dan, who was born to Israel--though the city used to be called Laish.
  13. Yes, "immoral". I don't posit a definition since I don't hold the belief that they exist. The theist should define their terms, but the character of the god of The Bible is typically the classical definition (transcendent being, creator, etc).
  14. Jesus endorsed the OT saying "No jot or tittle shall be changed" He also passed up every opportunity to denounce things such as slavery, but decided not to. Instead the NT uses slave/master analogies as a positive example. Also, Jesus' "best" examples of morality, found in the Sermon on the Mount, are terribly flawed. Lastly, to say Jesus "improves" god law is an admission that God's morality meter is flawed.
  15. ^God's moral relativism. There is no context wherein God's approval or endorsement of child abuse, rape, murder, genocide, human sacrifice, slavery, misogyny, condemnation for crimes of other parties, etc is moral. Those are always immoral.
  16. Peter: Peter was a lowerclass fisherman from Galilee, one of the most illiterate places in the world during a time when literacy was very low in general, even among town notaries. He could not write. He didn't write. There are a half dozen similarly dated books of Peter (Gospel of Peter, Apocalypse of Peter, etc). Writing books in the name of Peter was a cottage industry. Paul: Only 7 of the Pauline epistles were penned by the same person (Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians, and Philemon), the remainder are either likely forgeries or certain forgeries. At any rate, Paul was not a witness to the acts of words of Jesus and never met Jesus. He saw him in a vision much later. John: John had his own competing ministry according to the earliest manuscripts. He is not named as the author of the gospel in his name. The only mention within the text of an author is "the beloved disciple" at the crucifixion. The only person who was referred to as that anywhere was Lazarus. The book of John dates no earlier than c. 95 AD and has a very different view of Jesus than the earlier texts, including Paul's letters. It has a different trial for Jesus and the only "high" view of Jesus's divinity. Anything that might suggest Jesus was divine, or rather, claimed to be divine, comes from this very late book. In short, I would be cautious of basing any belief on the latest, most dubious, most different texts of the modern New Testament alone. It's ok to say "I don't know".
  17. VP had almost no knowledge of Greek, Biblical customs, or manuscript history. He read mostly 19th century High German hermeneutics, studies homilies (story telling) at Princeton Divinity, never attended Moody (he lied, you can check their public records), and got a fake "doctorate" from a weekend class at a house in Colorado. He was phony.
  18. Longhunter

    Burden of Proof.

    Establishing the null hypothesis is important when determining who has the burden of proof when addressing pre-existing claims or historically accepted. This is why the null hypothesis is important: 1. It can be falsified (Validation is less useful because "consistent with" doesn't tell you anything about the the accuracy of the given came.) 2. You don't accept conflicting claims on the outset. 3. You can't prove a negative
  19. I don't agree with a single word if this. Such a wild claim requires a big burden of proof. His theological claims are unsubstantiated, his Greek was lousy at best, and his Biblical studies were fraudulent or a century out dated, although none of that is surprising since his credentials were artificial and he didn't allow review of his work and he didn't cite his sources. He was a phony though and through.
  20. Let's not forget that Linder was a willing henchman for his participation. He won't implicate himself by releasing a tell-all. I had several negative encounters with him while in is role as LCM's enforcer.
  21. I don't know if LCM still receives funds, but I do know (thanks to voter registration) that he lives in a crappy apartment. As for Linder, if he won't write you a book, maybe he'll tell you his story in a banjo ballad.
  22. CD, great post! I have a similar story. Grew up at HQ, left in the 2000s. Glad you're here!
  23. Glad you're here. My mom was/is 8th WC.
  24. VPW's books may be a comfort, but that doesn't mean any of it is true.
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