Nathan_Jr

Ok. Indeed, a lot of content on the internet, especially, social media, is fake, inauthentic, bull$hit. This is true, factual. But not all internet content is bull$hit. Being able to discern the bull$hit is important. Only we can discern for ourselves. I can't rely on the people responsible for their content to discern it for me. And, yes, much fakery and deception in twig. Discerning this fakery is our responsibility, just as it's the responsibility of the twig leaders to vomit the fakery, or not. But my interactions with the people in twig were definitely real. Even if they were real fake. Not sure what you mean by this. What do you think is the answer to all this deception and bull$hit?

I don't think I suggested TWI is an autonomous being. Corporations are abstract entities. They may be comprised of and operated by people. They may just exist on paper.

The internet isn't an autonomous being. The internet can't be responsible for abuse or stupidity. People are responsible for how they act. People are responsible for being stupid and cruel. People are responsible for how they digest and assimilate information they read. The internet is not responsible, people are.

But TWI makes it everybody's business with their evangelizing and proselytizing and gaslighting and abusing and stealing and destroying. I wish they could keep their business to themselves, but they can't and won't. The pressures to sell "the class" is one way they make it EVERYBODY'S business. I married a woman who was born into a TWI/CORPS family. I never condemned, nor questioned, her beleeefs. They just never really came up, or else I just lovingly tolerated the silliness. But the pressure to bend my knee to victor became seemingly insurmountable at some point. In an effort to keep the peace and do whatever it took to save a marriage I was gaslighted to believe I ruined, I took "the class" and attended fellowship with an open mind and heart. Before I took "the class," my life was replete with what many here would call signs, miracles, wonders and revelation. I'm embarrassed to even mention this, because I never considered any of this miraculous or special or worthy of boasting, which I'm painfully trying to avoid right now. Since a very young age, I experienced countless healings - physical, mental, spiritual - and had never been to a doctor or had a vaccine. My life was full of love and joy and contentment and professional success and gratitude. All my needs were met. I walked in the light of the Love of God. But the proselytizers of TWI couldn't keep their shonta in their own toilet. They had to share it with me by force. They had push my face into their shonta. TWI made their business my business. And their business is destruction. So, fvck them for destroying my life! They should have kept their business to themselves. Thank God for GSC, open forums, and free speech.

It was after a fellowship where he held forth on the names of God. I mentioned "Yahweh." With forced, blank smugness, he said something like, "I don't know what that is." Implying, "you're stupid. I'm not. Keep your mouth shut. Absorb, retain, release." In the moment, I was mildly embarrassed, because I just didn't know enough about it to discuss. More than anything, I was frustrated with his willful ignorance and unwillingness to go beyond what he had been taught.

Maybe comments like these are part of the reason why I waste my time here. Can you expound on this?

Thanks. Absurd, indeed.

Right. The letter J emerged for the first time in the early 16th century. The letter J wasn't known in the 1st century. I don't remember PFAL covering the letter J or the Tetragrammaton or "Yahweh." When I brought up this topic one day in fellowship, the twig leader, a former CORPS, said he had no idea what I was talking about. He insinuated that I was a mere ignorant, immature babe in the Word and that I should focus on absorbing the indoctrination. Questions should not be asked, not even at the end - at least, this is how I was made to feel. What about El or Elohim? LORD God is used for the first time in Genesis 2:4. All prior verses only use El or Elohim. I've always wondered about this. What are your thoughts, WW?

Held responsible for what? Held responsible by whom?

The sad irony is these are the very things one stands to lose by remaining in a cult, by imitating victor, by standing on his shoulders.

Right. Nothing is lost from leaving the cult, neither sanctification nor rewards. Everything is to gain. There is nothing to fear by standing in righteous defiance against wickedness. There is nothing to fear in the Love of God. This Love cannot ever be found in a wicked cult like TWI. It cannot be found in the writings or sermons of the cult's founder, either.

I'm going to vomit. Again. This is pure, invented, fictitious, cult BULLSHONTA. None of this sinister doctrine is true. It's unbridled hucksterism. This is why I say BELEEF is the biggest problem in the world today. For this abusive, gaslighting doctrine to achieve its designed, destructive result, it must be believed. Only the huckster requires belief. Belief has no place where Truth is concerned. The Truth can and will be KNOWN. The Truth can and will be seen. My heart breaks for the deceived. Be still. Be not afraid. Watch. Pray.

Oh, I KNOW it's exactly as Waysider says it is! Who, after hearing of this, after living this, can still be an apologist for TWI and its inventor, victor paul wierwille? Only the willfully blind and the wicked. This is vomitous, abject, spiritual depravity. I don't know what born again of serpent seed is, but if anything, it must be this. Who can still doubt that this is a sinister, evil cult? I wouldn't want to be anywhere near the perpetrators and teachers and defenders of such abuse on THAT day.

Fvck this!

What exactly were the implications? What would happen to your kids, according to these pseudo-Christian jihadists? (This is among the most sinister, brutal forms of gaslighting and spiritual abuse. Abject wickedness. Serpentine trash.)

Where else? What is the alternative?

Except that most of these are NOT extremely hard to refute - many already have been. Many have been throughly refuted. (Is the new class still teaching throughly?) The question is are they being regurgitated in the new class? Have you taken it?

Well done, T-Bone. Fair question, fair points. More than fair. Please consider adding: All - with/without exception//distinction Figgers of Speech - something something the most important something something Effectual is POW!!!, effective is meh Misunderstanding the purpose of italics in KJV. Is the preface of the KJV still ignored?

Unmolested. How ironic. Distributed back to the field? The battlefield? Right. The spiritual battlefield of the pseudo-Christian jihad. Sorry, I can barley see through the tears of laughter, but I know this abusive indoctrination is real. It's serious, and I'm grateful you've seen through the veil. From all the stories I've read here, it appears HQ NEVER did this. In fact, it's EXTREMELY costly to go WOW, even today - a very expensive endeavor for any fresh fish "ambassador." What a scam. What a cult. What a bag of bullshonta.

Right. Sorry. I realized this as soon as I hit submit.

It just occurred to me you couldn't even deduct the expenses or the ABS on your taxes, because TWI didn't get the religious tax exempt status until c. 1980. Right? I'm probably off on the date.

Holy shonta! ROTFLMAO! Strictly forbidden? By whom? Oh, wait, let me guess: leadership. What a cult.

I still drink Community Coffee, but not the blend with chicory - I like caffeine too much. Apparently, the salt is legit.

Thanks, Waysider. Uncle Harry must not have been very fluent in SIT, because his plan was obviously not spiritually inspired. Who was his teacher? Oh, wait... What a way to manifest the promise of abundance. Coffee prices have remained rather stable with minor fluctuations over the past 50 years. All that abundant sharing and not a tiny fraction of it could be spent on coffee? Expenses couldn't be deducted from ABS? Pennies. PENNIES! What happened to being and having the best? Not better. BEST. Cult coffee. Stretched coffee is the four crucified of hospitality.

I’ve been meaning to ask this for quite a while: WITAF is stretched coffee?