Kay1952

Good stuff Goey! I was so whipped up about the other stuff, I didn't see that Masterherbalist made that statement. I guess it is the old 'see first--then believe' thing. I didn't even think of all the money that the companies that make 'dietary supplements' (for that is what they are merchandised as) are making in today's market. Great point--thanks! Kay Kay1952

It couldn't be more appropriate. I understand your intentions. I understand that you have your system as rooted and grounded in experience as my own. I give you great credit that you BELIEVE that your approach to health is correct. I have never been one to simply say 'oh ok' and follow blindly. I have always been one to question, test, push the boundaries, and even flagrantly walk opposite traffic when I thought I was right and the rest of the world wrong. I have been run over (rhetorically) many times and I still stuck to what I believed was correct. I have been right more often than I was wrong. I have been a medical para-professional for 30 years. I have been a Emergency room physicians assistant, an EMT, a Paramedic, and most recently a Nursing Assistant working with elderly with Alzheimers Disease. I am not a doctor nor am I a nurse. I have seen medicine work, and I have seen it fail abysmally. The same for an herbal approach with an eye to alleviate or even cure Alzheimers Disease, CFIDS, Fibromyalgia, Lupus, MS, and a host of other autoimmune illnesses. For the record, I have seen medical treatment for these illnesses fail as well. I have seen with my own eyes, results from modern day medical approaches far more often than I have seen results from applying herb lore. I spent hours on the web and at our library looking into CHOP Therapy and Rituxan treatment before Tim even started chemotherapy. I looked at herbal treatment as well, and I looked into a business called Cancer Treatment Centers too. Their approach is total body treatment-nutrition, chemo, meditation, etc. I have researched medical treatment before, with husband #2's cardiac problems. We did not always go with what those cardiologists suggested and I trusted God to tell me what was truth and what was a lie. Husband #2 lived nearly 10 years past his initial diagnosis, and he died from not managing his insulin dependent diabetes after we were divorced, not his cardiac problems. (It seems that I am to learn how to believe for my husband's physical health in this lifetime!) When Tim was initially diagnosed I asked God to tell me if I could trust what those doctors were telling me. I got a resounding YES. Like gravity, our genetic blueprint follows laws too. My youngest son's father had the same dental pattern as I did. Matt has teeth like his fathers and mine, and genetically there was zero chance he wouldn't. My family has glaucoma rife on both sides of the family. Genetically, I had a nearly nil chance NOT to have glaucoma, and I do. Medical science can't go against genetics, and herbal lore can't either. Believing or not if the blueprint for cancer, diabetes, blue eyes, brown hair, hair loss, big hips, small feet, MS, and even being artistic is there, you're stuck with those traits. No amount of believing will keep those things from happening. What I can do is manage within those physical boundaries and even 'get past' some of them. I understand that you tried to function within boundaries as well. The restrictions placed upon those who were still in twi, were absurd in the extreme. I got into trouble with leadership because I saw things that weren't right and called them on the carpet. I told them that if God had wanted us to walk with SPIRITUAL KNOWLEGE ONLY, our 5 senses and our common sense would be turned off at the moment of salvation. I know that God expects us to get all the information available before making decisions. Get a grip! Diet-- Yepper that is vital. Tim has only lost 25 pounds total. Yes, he has been up and down like a zipper, but he is maintaing his weight. We eat very healthy, very low fat. He drinks gallons of water, and takes vitamins and when he can't eat, we use nutritional supplements like sweet puddings and we have even used Ensure in a shake with ice cream. He has lost hair, (he didn't have much to lose on his head! Bald men are sexy!)and at times he has looked really ill. He has the prednisone moon face, and dark circles around his eyes. He recovers faster every treatment. Why? Because he believes that this treatment is curing his cancer. Cancer is NOT always fatal. As a realist I looked into the statistics of pancreatic cancer. It killed Michael Landon--quickly. I quoted the statistics in my last email. Those are just a guide--statistical data is just that, data. It shows an indication of where the numbers fall-there are always those outside the bell curve. Tim is one of those whose statistical chances of long life are literally off the chart. While I trust Tim's doctors to inform us of what is available to treat his illness, I DO NOT PUT MY TRUST AND BELIEVING IN ANYTHING BUT GOD. Tim's oncologist knows we have thousands of people praying for him and his health. Dr. P agrees that mental health and prayer can make his job easier and he will take help wherever it is from. We have discussed the studies done where people were prayed for--nd they got better sooner than those who were not--even if they did not know that they were being prayed for. I do not think that your work as a master herbalist is bs. I believe that you have just one of the keys to mental, physical, and even spiritual health. One of the big complaints I have about herbal treatment, (you've already heard me out about ALL NATURAL) is that it is NOT standardized. There is no litmus test that brand xyz herb is the same dosage, strength or purity as brand abc. Vitamins are great. But some should not be taken in mega doses, as the body can't handle quantities that huge and some are even toxic. If there were a way to guarantee consistency then I might not have as huge a problem with herbs etc. Poison. Yep chemo is poison, so is laetrile. I know how much chemo Tim is getting each and every treatment. If I buy laetrile from my local health food store, I don't know what the dosage is. That concerns me immensely! I believe that God expects us to use common sense when walking through this life. It was explained to me when I started attending twi fellowships in the early 70's that God put things like immunizations for babies on earth to bless His people. 'Natural' man got them by grace. I'm not sure that isn't still true. As far as 'minisry' committments overshadowing your ability to provide health insurance for your family--geeez! I left twi because I was not about to let some dumb jerk tell me how to listen to God about my family. I guess being stiff necked and unyielding got me out before too much damage was done to my brain. I read this statement to my husband and he said it is harsh. I never said I was a diplomat--I said I was opinionated and didn't care if ANYONE on the planet agreed or disagreed with me. I know from personal experience what has worked for me in my life and what hasn't. I am thankful for you and your family and that they did not have to deal with life threatening illness. I think you are expert at what you do. I even have respect for you and your knowlege. I have seen people taken to the cleaners by someone who has represented that they have the ONLY answers. I know you are not like that-but in my opinion you are exceedingly rare. Kay Kay1952

Masterherbalist--- I know you are the resident expert in this particular field. I am a beginner by comparison and I use herbs in teas as treatments for some ailments and illnesses my family had and has had. When my kids got colic--I gave them peppermint and chamomile tea. Worked like a dream. I know of medical uses for vegetation that are very good for treating skin disorders. HOWEVER-- I have an immune deficiency syndrome--CFIDS. I have seen others with this same illness go to herbalists like you, and are given recommendations for boosting, improving, and otherwise using herbs to make them feel better. I have seen them fail dismally and some people have become more ill because they stopped their medical treatment and applied the herbal lore instead. I am not saying that you are one who recommends this action... I am saying that I have SEEN this happen with my own eyes. I have seen the phrase "ALL NATURAL" used to tout the sale of a substance. BEING ALL NATURAL DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS A GOOD SUBSTANCE TO BE TAKING INSIDE YOUR BODY. Arsenic, Belladonna, Foxglove, and Cyanide are ALL NATURAL AND THEY WILL KILL YOU! Manure is all natural too! I firmly believe in the herbalist lore. I know that there are substances that grow that can do great good for many MINORillnesses. I find it objectionable to the max that a herbalist would even deign to treat someone with cancer. I have personal experience with battling cancer. My husband Tim is battling, (and winning) his battle with pancreatic cancer. When he was diagnosed in August he was given a 2% chance of survival for 6 to 9 months with or without chemotherapy. He has been getting CHOP Chemotherapy with Rituxan every three weeks with concomitant treatment with prednisone. His satellite tumors have vanished and the tumor itself (which was the size of a mans fist) has reduced by half. He gets his last chemo in Dec, he was first told he would get it till May. Is it just the chemo that is killing this cancer? NO. It is chemo and BELIEVING that is winning this battle. Do I think that seeing an herbalist would make this treatment even more effective? NO! Just think about this! Kay Kay1952

It has been found by intense study that sex cures just about all the aches and pains we have, plus it gives us something to do in the evenings! We are stillworking on the concept and will post findings as they are discovered. Tim and Kay Burt Kay1952

I got all my N'Sync music from KaZaa I have a zillion burned cds There are about 9 really nice ballads If you want titles--email me gert68@hotmail.com--I KNOW 'EM ALL! Kay Kay1952

Such lovely voices--such lovely young fellows-I want them for Christmas! Kay Kay1952

This song is one I serenade Tim with daily, oft more than once! I am probably the oldest N'Sync fan...except for those 5 fellows grandmas! Read the words-- God Must Have Spent a Little More Time on You Can this be true, tell me can this be real How can I put into words what I feel My life was complete, I thought I was whole Why do I feel like I'm losing control I never thought that love could feel like this Then you changed my world with just one kiss How can it be that right here with me there's an angel, it's a miracle Your love is like a river Peaceful and deep Your soul is like a secret I never could keep When I look into your eyes I know that it's true God Must Have Spent a Little More Time on You Oh a little more time, yes he did baby In all of creation, all things great and small You are the one that surpasses them all More precious than any diamond or pearl They broke the mold when you came into this world And I'm trying hard to figure out The warmth of your smile, the heart of a child Thats deep inside and leaves me purified Your love is like a river, peaceful and deep Your soul is like a secret I never could keep When I look into your eyes I know that it's true God Must Have Spent a Little More Time on You I never thought that love could feel like this then you changed my world with just one kiss How can it be that right here with me There's an Angel, it's a miracle Your love is like a river peaceful and deep Your soul is like a secret I never could keep Whe I look into your eyes I know that it's true God Must have Spent a Little More time on You For Tim... Love, Kay Kay1952

I understand your thought and advice for getting 'quality' menfolk to notice you. Going to the gym to find the tummy, tushie, arms, etc is an idea--but as you say, not the only one. I happen to be a QUEEN sized woman, and have been all my life. I have been married 3 times and divorced twice. While that may seem to be less than successful, my weight was never an issue. I am the best-have always been but didn't necessarily believe that now and again in my life. I am presently married to a wonderful man, who likes his women well upholstered! All my husbands did! You are right when you say that the whole thing here is mental attitude. If you feel comfortable with yourself, and know that you are all that you want and need to be--then the fellows will flock around you. I have never had that problem in my life and it has been more than 25 years since I weighed less than 200 pounds. The other tip-- Place yourself in situations where the kind of man you want hangs out. A friend was bemoaning the fact that she picked out fellows who were all alcoholics--they were found at the local watering hole! (Not that good men don't hang out in bars, but?) The best thing you can do with yourself is to love who you are. If that entails going to the gym and getting in shape, more power to you...but it isn't necessarily necessary! Kay Kay1952

I wish that I was close enough to enjoy all of this! Kay Kay1952

I was sleeping in my recliner, and suddenly music entered my ears, rolled around my head, and I awoke with 'WHO IS THAT!' My husband said-'I have no idea!' It was Dave Matthews Band on Letterman! I LOVED IT! Asked my son if he heard of them, and he said 'Yes, they SUCK!' (Why did I ask HIM--he's 25 and thinks he knows everything!) I am downloading and burning music as we speak! I think I have been in a vacuum! Kay Kay1952

I asked my cat Turtle what he would recommend-- He says that Friskies is good, but what he prefers is Purina One which is pricey. I give him Friskies most of the time, and for his coat about once a week I buy a can of sardines and give it to him about half at a time including the oil it comes in. Our vet said that it's great for their coat, (Turtle is black patent leather black, very shiny coat)and the oil is good to keep hairballs at bay. Cats are the best pets! Although I like dogs, cats cuddle best! Kay Kay1952

I will bring a huge pan of my famous cornbread and an even huger pan of banana chocolate chip bread! Kay! Kay1952

Missed your beautiful face! I wondered what wandering black hole had sucked you up! Email me when you get a chance! I have REALLY MISSED YOU! Love, Kay Kay1952

I want you to remember that you are not alone in all this! We are going through some rough stuff in our lives and it helps me beyond measure to know that Tim and I are going to make it through, in part because we have zillions of people praying for us! I am praying for you mightly, and if you would like to email me I am here! The last 24 hours would have been just impossible without the support of my children and friends here in Janesville, and you my friends on the cyber map. You are standing with help just a click of a mouse away! The cycle will break and you will get a breather! I've been getting through things a minute by minute at a time. It is a technique that works! With Love, Tim and Kay Burt Kay1952

Shy ain't one of them! Do I admire vpw? Nope. He was a charlatan who damaged people because he could. That's my 2 cents worth. Kay Kay1952

I will try that, I have a 'postage stamp' sized pic of me, I have Microsoft Photo Draw. Kay Kay1952

I didn't mean that all twi taught was crap! I meant that everything they taught WASN'T crap! ??????(OOPS!) Kay Kay1952

Our whole family is in crisis, (see Lift list) But we are not alone. There are hundreds of people who are lifting us up for our need to be met. You here, friends in Nevada, out east, in Australia! all these people are helping us believe for perfect healing! Curious word, 'lift'. The picture I get is being lifted up to God so that we are all above the grime and crap that the world will give us. If we are lifted up, we are not mired in the crap and grime. Mental imaging has been used for years to assist in healing, mental, physicial and spiritual. When our friends, family and those we don't even know are lifting us up, we have the pressure lifted from us so that we can trust, believe and see the remedy in front of our noses. Is this easy? NO! No it is simple! The hardest lesson I have learned is to let the problem go, but this doesn't mean I sit and wait for the answer to drop on my lap. God honors action. I have told my friends and family that God can't bless nothing. In mathematics 0 times any number is still 0. If we sit in the grime and crap, it isn't God not doing his part, it's us not doing something! Often when Tim and I have financial needs, I bake cookies and give them away. We need money, but giving is honored so I give of my abundance! We have seen the need met zillions of times! Tim has said that he can't wait to see how God is going to help us get out of this one! Are these lessons I learned from twi? Yes. But this is what I have seen WITH MY OWN TWO EYES, and it is a system that works. Seth and all, (You too Dot!) we are the winners! We just have to act like we are! I have said before that everything twi expounded is crap and garbage. I have seen this system work. Try it and see? What do you have to lose? Love, Kay Kay1952

I am not a Master. I am at best an apprentice herbalist. I know that there are herbs that can do wonders. Digitalis comes from Foxglove. Willow bark tea contains salycilates which can reduce fever and alleviate pain. That is not all I know. CFIDS is being treated in some people with many different herbal blends and substances. People who are desperate for a cure, will try almost anything, oft with no research to find out about it. I don't ascribe to the herbal approach for ME. I just can't wrap my head around it, and so... no holistic treatment for me. I thank you for your knowlege. I was not offended. Just concerned. That was my point. Love, Kay Kay1952

Saying that 'keep your chin up' is worthless shows you aren't quite as enlightened as you might think you are. It has been shown in double blind research that those who are battling ANY ILLNESS...from an ingfected hangnail to childbirth, to cancer, to depression, that attempting to maintain a POSITIVE ATTITUDE can make a giant difference in the recovery. Sometimes it is difficult in the extreme to do this, but IT CAN BE DONE! I KNOW--I HAVE DONE IT. Treating the whole person is vital, we agree on that. I have an autoimmune disorder that affects my mood...I fight sometimes all day to stay positive. I don't presume to know all about depression in anyone else but ME. I would never presume to say any kind of advice is worthless. I would encourage anyone to research in detail any treatment of any illness so that you can see what the profit might be for using that specific treatment. Perhaps someone needs to see, 'keep your chin up' which could help them get through a day. Who are you to say any kind of treatment is worthless? While you might not see that it could help, you don't know everything, (and for the record), neither do I. Seth, you have to be actively involved with treating your depression. My email is gert68@hotmail.com and I am usually home all day and all night. If you think it might help for some 1:1 with me, (God knows I love to talk!) I am available! With lots of love, Kay Kay1952

I have fought the dragon of depression my whole life. I have been on Elavil since 1985. It is a tri-cyclic anti depressant and it works for me. Depression is a foe that can be battled and winning is hard but well earned when the right combination of medications is used. I was in twi back in the olden days of the '70's. My oldest son was a year old and I asked my twig leader if this was a denomination that didn't believe in the use of modern medicine. She said that vaccinations for little ones was something God brought about for the blessing of his saints, and the natural man got the blessing by grace. She said if there is a medication that can keep the kid from getting whooping cough or measles, that was one less thing a parent had to believe for. The right medication can be the difference between existing and living! After all, I believe God brought those meds into this world to bless his saints-and that means you! Keep your chin up! Love Kay Kay1952

Under the avatar is a message--ie 'free to be' I don't like that! How in blue blazes do I change it? kay Kay1952

I changed my avatar. It is a medieval woman and I am having a medieval wedding in Oct. If I had seen it before I would have picked this one! Kay Kay1952

I am sooooo jealous! I just burned a two disk set of Stevie Ray Vaughn for my brother who is a gitar picker, but only a shadow of SRV! Think of us poor Wisconsinites when you hear all that good moooosiiicccc! Kay Kay1952

I will post a pic of Turtle when I have a better one. I have one of him in a window, (I'll post that one when I can figure out how to do it!)but it makes him look like a shadow. Kay Kay1952