WordWolf

George? What is the time-frame of this movie's setting? Does this movie have any distinguishing marks? Who did this movie? What is the name of one of the characters?

That is the name of a singer, and many singers are also actors, so it probably is the same guy. This guy did a song with Colbie Caillat for kids about staying calm, called "Belly Breathe." (Elmo's in the video.)

There is NO judicial scene whatsoever. There is a different type of "court", but that's not what you meant. There's underlines, if you missed them.

I agree with this post.

................No...........

"What part of Georgia you from? South Central?" "Oh good, they've opened the salad bar." "I should have never worn these shoes. They just don't match my purse." "I've been in here for a while. Perhaps I could be of service. Do you have any questions?" "What are you in for?" "Jaywalking." "Are you with me? Yea or Nay?" "Well which one means yes?" "Yea." " I hope's it worth the NOISE! " "Hey, Blinken!" "Did you just say 'Abe Lincoln'?" "By the by, do you know praying mantis?" "You're looking at him." "You vow, we move!" "Ah, RIGHT rope!" "I will take these cotton balls from you with my hand and put them in my pocket." "Yeah....whatever." "...Is that you?" "Yes." "What, back from the Crusades?" "Yes." "And alive?" ".......Yes." "A toll is a toll, and a roll is a roll. And if we don't get no tolls, then we don't eat no rolls. I made that up. " " {translated} She's got to be kidding!" "I object!" "Who asked?" "Too-ta-loo. Au revior. Auf weidesen. Ciao. Ding dow dai." "I can see!................Nope, I was wrong." "These are my most trusted associates. On my right, Dirty Ezio. On my left, Filthy Luca. " "Wasn't your... didn't your mole used to be on the other side?" "I have a MOLE?"

Seriously? Those were all from the SAME movie!

The "rant on random verses for 20 minutes" thing really got popular during the lcm era. vpw did it too, sometimes, but with a lot more style so it wasn't as obvious. There were homespun analogies that pretended to connect, and so on. ("Private interpretation" never had anything to do with "letting the hounds loose on the prey" or anything like that, except in vpw's mind.)

WordWolf: "The sad part is that we had the capacity to look up the usages fairly easily- with either a Concordance or a Greek Lexicon, but we were never encouraged to read the context to determine the meaning- we were encouraged to get the meaning, then read that into each occurrence, which is backwards. " TLC: "sorry... it's not that I don't agree that there was way far too much emphasis and focus put on greek... but I'll have to take exception to your blanket statement. (and yeah... I was a part of the research fellowship there for several years.)" WordWolf: "Well, congratulations that your experience- in the "research fellowship" - didn't match mine -out there in the living rooms. Where I sat, we were encouraged to get the meaning, then read that into the occurrences. " TLC: "...but, I guess you speak for everyone else that was involved during those years, and what I saw and experienced must be the anomaly..." Guess about that if you must, but this is another example about how different people in twi, in different places in twi, at different times in twi, had different EXPERIENCES in twi. I spoke about MY experience (and used words like "mine" and "where I sat" to make that clear). Some other people posted things similar to what I said, but can-and do-speak for themselves just as you did for yourself. As you said, YOUR experience seemed to have lacked that specific problem. I didn't doubt that, but mine HAD IT, so I posted accordingly. It would have been nice if my experience LACKED that problem, but it didn't. If you must read into that, then you must, but I don't think anyone else did.

-There's a director and producer that worked on "Terminator", "Aliens", and "The Abyss". They met working on THIS film. (Not as producer nor director.) -The executive producer normally worked on lower-budget films than this, but the film zeitgeist that year suggested this setting of film might also be an automatic success if made, so he was granted a real budget for this one. -Among the extras was comedienne Kathy Griffin, in her first acting role as anything in a film. -A number of the special effects made for this movie were later reused in a low-budget film, as was the score (in that and in ANOTHER low-budget film.) -One character's assistants are named "Urim" and "Thummim". -John Saxon -Sybil Danning -Sam Jaffe -Robert Vaughn -Richard Thomas -George Peppard -This film was not a cowboy film. (This is a comment on the setting and the genre, not a comment on the dramatis personae.) -This film was not a Japanese period piece. -Despite being a rubbish negotiator, the protagonist managed to hire 2 people based on (1) avoiding being "bored to death", and (2) "a meal and a place to hide." "Is that real smoke you're putting into your lungs?" "Yup. And before ya ask, it is the worst thing in the world for me." "Well, I don't think you should do it."

"Too-ta-loo. Au revior. Auf weidesen. Ciao. Ding dow dai." "I can see!................Nope, I was wrong." "These are my most trusted associates. On my right, Dirty Ezio. On my left, Filthy Luca. " "Wasn't your... didn't your mole used to be on the other side?" "I have a MOLE?"

Right. Looking at all the usages showed at least one where there was no way whatsoever it could possibly mean that, but cg insisted that "katabole" which breaks down into "casting down", could not possibly mean "a founding" (which is what just about everyone else agrees it means and is translated that way), but rather an "overthrow", and then came up with a lengthy, circuitous, flawed set of teachings revolving around it. If he'd just looked at all the usages, he'd have realized it couldn't mean that. Even Bullinger- who believed that- noted quite prominently the verse where it should not be translated accordingly (which is odd but at least it's honest.)

Well, congratulations that your experience- in the "research fellowship" - didn't match mine -out there in the living rooms. Where I sat, we were encouraged to get the meaning, then read that into the occurrences.

"What part of Georgia you from? South Central?" "Oh good, they've opened the salad bar." "I should have never worn these shoes. They just don't match my purse." "I've been in here for a while. Perhaps I could be of service. Do you have any questions?" "What are you in for?" "Jaywalking." "Are you with me? Yea or Nay?" "Well which one means yes?" "Yea." " I hope's it worth the NOISE! " ]"Hey, Blinken!" "Did you just say 'Abe Lincoln'?" "By the by, do you know praying mantis?" "You're looking at him." "You vow, we move!" "Ah, RIGHT rope!" "I will take these cotton balls from you with my hand and put them in my pocket." "Yeah....whatever." "...Is that you?" "Yes." "What, back from the Crusades?" "Yes." "And alive?" ".......Yes." "A toll is a toll, and a roll is a roll. And if we don't get no tolls, then we don't eat no rolls. I made that up. " " {translated} She's got to be kidding!" "I object!" "Who asked?"

Good article overall. Over the years, some of the same points were posted here as well, which is a promising sign for those who thought of them independently and posted them. Our experience in twi was echoed there. One problem was confusing amateurs for real researchers. We ended up with some off stuff. With the "usage is more important than breaking down the Greek word into its components" department, we had examples like "ekklesia" - which is "assembly" by usage to everyone except twi and ex-twi, since they look at the components and see "called out" and stop there, ignoring the usages. An unrelated point due to amateurs running the show was how we ended up with things like the Intermediate Class including.... "The KJV says 'mortify' here. Know what that means? That means 'blow to smithereens.' " From the first time I sat through that, I knew it was wrong, since I knew "mortis" meant "death", and the Greek word was "nekrosate", and "necros" means "death", which makes sense. "Kill off" might be a fair translation for the KJV's "mortify". The only conclusion I can draw is that someone knew what a mortar cannon and mortar rounds are, and GUESSED it somehow related to the text even though they didn't have explosives in Palestine in the first century AD. They did have the "mortar-and-pestle" thing for compounding herbs and so on, since that's truly an ancient "invention", but that "device" had nothing to do with the verse, either. (I would have been a bit more understanding if they'd said "grind to a powder" rather than "blow to smithereens".) The sad part is that we had the capacity to look up the usages fairly easily- with either a Concordance or a Greek Lexicon, but we were never encouraged to read the context to determine the meaning- we were encouraged to get the meaning, then read that into each occurrence, which is backwards.

-There's a director and producer that worked on "Terminator", "Aliens", and "The Abyss". They met working on THIS film. (Not as producer nor director.) -The executive producer normally worked on lower-budget films than this, but the film zeitgeist that year suggested this setting of film might also be an automatic success if made, so he was granted a real budget for this one. -Among the extras was comedienne Kathy Griffin, in her first acting role as anything in a film. -A number of the special effects made for this movie were later reused in a low-budget film, as was the score (in that and in ANOTHER low-budget film.) -One character's assistants are named "Urim" and "Thummim". -John Saxon -Sybil Danning -Sam Jaffe -Robert Vaughn -Richard Thomas -George Peppard -This film was not a cowboy film. (This is a comment on the setting and the genre, not a comment on the dramatis personae.) -This film was not a Japanese period piece.

"What part of Georgia you from? South Central?" "Oh good, they've opened the salad bar." "I should have never worn these shoes. They just don't match my purse." "I've been in here for a while. Perhaps I could be of service. Do you have any questions?" "What are you in for?" "Jaywalking." "Are you with me? Yea or Nay?" "Well which one means yes?" "Yea." " I hope's it worth the NOISE! " ]"Hey, Blinken!" "Did you just say 'Abe Lincoln'?" "By the by, do you know praying mantis?" "You're looking at him." "You vow, we move!" "Ah, RIGHT rope!" "I will take these cotton balls from you with my hand and put them in my pocket." "Yeah....whatever." "...Is that you?" "Yes." "What, back from the Crusades?" "Yes." "And alive?" ".......Yes." "A toll is a toll, and a roll is a roll. And if we don't get no tolls, then we don't eat no rolls. I made that up. " " {translated} She's got to be kidding!"

Um, no......

That's him.

In fairness, everybody except their families tend to forget that movie.

No, this movie is better-known, and had a wider distribution.

-There's a director and producer that worked on "Terminator", "Aliens", and "The Abyss". They met working on THIS film. (Not as producer nor director.) -The executive producer normally worked on lower-budget films than this, but the film climate suggested this film might be a smash if made, so he was granted a real budget for this one. -Among the extras was comedienne Kathy Griffin, in her first acting role as anything in a film. -A number of the special effects made for this movie were later reused in a low-budget film, as was the score (in that and in ANOTHER low-budget film.) -One character's assistants are named "Urim" and "Thummim". -John Saxon -Sybil Danning -Sam Jaffe -Robert Vaughn -Richard Thomas

"What part of Georgia you from? South Central?" "Oh good, they've opened the salad bar." "I should have never worn these shoes. They just don't match my purse." "I've been in here for a while. Perhaps I could be of service. Do you have any questions?" "What are you in for?" "Jaywalking." "Are you with me? Yea or Nay?" "Well which one means yes?" "Yea." " I hope's it worth the NOISE! " "Did you just say 'Abe Lincoln'?" "By the by, do you know praying mantis?" "You're looking at him." "You vow, we move!" "Ah, RIGHT rope!" "I will take these cotton balls from you with my hand and put them in my pocket." "Yeah....whatever." "...Is that you?" "Yes." "What, back from the Crusades?" "Yes." "And alive?" ".......Yes." "A toll is a toll, and a roll is a roll. And if we don't get no tolls, then we don't eat no rolls. I made that up. " " {translated} She's got to be kidding!"

You did disqualify yourself. However, we might as well get this moving, so go ahead and tell them who also played Count Dracula and Skeletor in addition to Perry White.

"Well, I saw Perry White in the list." Yes, he's there. *doublechecks* Correctly. "Unless it was a voice actor in a cartoon," He was not- not in this case, and I'm not sure he ever did a cartoon. "the others I remember were John Hamilton (Adventures of Superman): very unlikely Lane Smith (Lois and Clark): also unlikely Laurence Fishburne (Man of Steel, etc): lots of roles, but I don't imagine him in all the "white guy" roles Glenn Ford (Chris Reeve Superman movies): that was my best shot. But maybe... Michael McKean (Smallville)? George" He's not in this list. These may well be all you REMEMBER, but you've actually left out one theatrical release. Run through all the Supermen, run through all the Loises, you may remember leaving out one pairing's "Perry White."