WordWolf

"U shan ta ma la ka si to la shon ta." That "sentence" showed up all the time, not just in pfal. And it's been trotted out by partisans as proof vpw was a "real Christian" and not just a fraud from the beginning. vpw passed the standard that he made up for being a real Christian..big surprise...but he didn't do very well at it even so... It's like his "tongue" was exactly one sentence long. The practice sessions were all flesh-and-blood practice for something that was supposedly completely spiritual. It's obvious in hindsight, but it fooled us all despite being inconsistent. When it came to revelation and power, vpw could cite examples from Scripture or cite examples from other people (or claim those stories were his own a la Gilderoy Lockhart), but never actually DEMONSTRATE them. That's why he didn't understand deeper levels and his explanations made no sense. "Phenomena" was his catch-all term for whatever wasn't guaranteed- and nobody noticed that's exactly what it was. (I didn't even think that was wrong, to have a catch-all term, but you'd think it was quoted straight out of the Bible.) He claimed that "phenomena" for non-Christians REQUIRED spirit upon someone and couldn't be physical (that was passed on by others, too). So, the "writing on the wall" wasn't actual writing on an actual wall. The far simpler explanation was that the writing, devoid of context, was MISUNDERSTOOD because the lettering looked like 1 language when it was another. However, anything vpw didn't understand was "supernatural". Charlatan voodoo doctors using sleight-of-hand were claimed to be "supernatural" as well since vpw lacked the wit to understand what they were doing.

I'm not- Saul actually DID stuff before he got jealous of David. That's why the people thought Saul slew "thousands" and David "ten thousands". David was more effective, but Saul wasn't useless. vpw, however, had a tiny local group for more than 2 decades before he heard of these young men. I don't even think it was JEALOUSY as much as him seeing RESOURCES rather than PEOPLE. Leonard wasn't an excellent teacher to him- Leonard was a source for a class he could rip off. Stiles wasn't an excellent teacher of holy spirit to him- Stiles was a source of a book he could rip off. So, the House of Acts wasn't effective Christians to him- they were a source of outreach that he could rip off. So, since he couldn't plagiarize the people, he tricked them and diverted them into his group so they would stop working for God for free and start working for him and generate income. (Class tuitions, tithes and "abundant sharing" were all sources of income.)

vpw and lcm thought it was only fair for people sign up as SLAVES. Remember that lcm did in public what vpw did in private. lcm, many times, pushed the idea of "bond-slaves" ("doulos") as a HIGHER CALLING. So, we weren't servants of God, according to twi, we were sons...... ...but when they wanted commitments to them, they wanted SLAVES. So, they tried to make you agree to be their SLAVE- AND PAY ALL YOUR EXPENSES. Even the most downtrodden slave's expenses were supposed to be covered by the owner or master. vpw was fond of all commitments going only ONE WAY- to him and NEVER from him. Yes, people paid twi to work for twi, and paid twi for such "gems" as "how to pack a suitcase" and "how to floss." To waste 4 years of your time and get 4 years of payments for it, twi had to use a lot of filler to make up for the lack of substance.

It is not Iron Man 3.

" I've successfully privatized world peace. What more do you want? For now!" "If you try to escape, or play any sort of games with me, I will taze you and watch "Supernanny" while you drool into the carpet."

*checks* For the record, sometime during my life I have heard this song. However, I could not identify it even to save my life.

Is that the song at the end of "The Breakfast Club"? I know which song it is, but I'm wondering what movie I've heard it in. Lyrics: If you leave, don’t leave now Please don’t take my heart away Promise me, just one more night Then we’ll go our separate ways We’ve always had time on our sides Now it’s fading fast Every second, every moment We’ve got to, We’ve got to make it last I touched you once, I touched you twice I won’t let go at any price I need you now like I needed you then You always said we'd still be friends someday If you leave I won't cry I won't waste one single day But if you leave don't look back I'll be running the other way Seven years went under the bridge Like time was standing still Heaven knows what happens now You’ve got to, You’ve got to say you will I touched you once, I touched you twice I won't let go at any price I need you now like I needed you then You always said we'd meet again I touched you once, I touched you twice I won’t let go at any price I need you now like I needed you then You always said we’d still be friends I touched you once, I touched you twice I won’t let go at any price I need you now like I needed you then You always said we'd meet again someday ohwoah ohwoah ohwoah ohwoah ohwoah If you leave (ohwoah) If you leave (ohwoah) If you leave (ohwoah) Don’t look back Don’t look back

Naturally, among all the other frauds, the only real drama vpw laid claim to was a FAKE also. When looked at coldly by the light of day, the thing vpw taught bore no resemblance to the thing in the Bible- except where it was CLAIMED to be so. However, what we were taught was totally fake-able and able to be produced by non-Christians trying to fake things. That's why vpw-the-fraud was able to use it- it was as fraudulent as him! I am not convinced the real thing isn't possible now. I am convinced what we experienced and were taught-THAT was fake. If the real thing is out there, we'll never find it by being convinced that a fake is the real thing instead. It's a nice microcosm of the entire twi experience vs God Almighty. Those who convince themselves this fake is the real deal won't even TRY to find the real thing.

That's it. The female co-star that Gina Lollabrigida played alongside was the goat! That's why "she" was insured but not named in the credits.

It bore repeating.

It's interesting to connect the dots on the Leonard class, also. Mrs W said Leonard really knew his stuff, both from the Bible and in practice, and taught effectively. vpw later said (in one of the few mentions EVER of Leonard) that his knowledge of the Bible was deficient. vpw pushed his way into one of Leonard's classes. vpw phoned and was told it was already in progress so he'd have to wait for the next one. vpw showed up anyway and demanded to be let in. Leonard was a nice guy and put up with it. Then vpw came back a few months later with new students and to retake it. A few months after THAT, vpw asked Leonard for permission to run LEONARD's class locally on a one-time basis. Leonard agreed, and later received a photo of the grads of Leonard's class. Meanwhile, vpw told all the students that it was vpw's class, which he maintained to his grave. He also continued to teach Leonard's class as often as he could, only later adding things like Stiles' book and Bullinger's material. Also, Leonard was about training the ministers so they could help their own congregations. vpw was about setting things up so that others were DEPENDENT UPON HIM, putting forth that himself was some great one.

No. Why would the French care enough about a Greek story to make both the first silent version and the first sound version of the film?

This story had several theatrical versions.... -2 were silent films. (One starred Lon Chaney Sr.) -1 was a US live theatrical release. (It starred Charles Laughton and Maureen O'Hara.) Irving Thalberg produced this one for RKO. Laughton's makeup took 2 1/2 hours each day of filming with him. -The first silent version and the first color version were both French productions. (The "talkie" starred Anthony Quinn and Gina Lollobrigida.) Gina Lollobridiga's "female co-star" was insured for 2 million francs. Despite all her screen-time, she does not appear in Imdb cast listing. -At least 1 was animated. (Someone thought this was a good children's story? Apparently... Oddly enough, the US and Australia both thought that. Why? No idea.) The 1996 animated version featured the voice talents of Jason Alexander and Demi Moore, Kevin Kline and David Ogden Stiers. Kline: "Achilles-heel!" -There were television films as well. (One starred Richard Harris, Salma Hayek, and Mandy Patinkin.) And a Carol Burnett spoof. And Canada, Germany and Denmark made musicals. (Why those countries? No idea.)

Mandy Patinkin was on at least 1 season of "Criminal Minds." He's also sung concerts and so on. He's said that he doesn't leave the stage without giving the people what they showed up for. He stops, and says "MY NAME IS INIGO MONTOYA. YOU KILLED MY FATHER. PREPARE TO DIE." The audience goes bananas, and then he can leave.

What was that Loud and Close movie again? "Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close Encounters of the Third Kind."

DareDevil.

That was me, and yes, you're correct. Your turn!

vpw insisted on a multi-year program, then hustled to find make-work to fill all 4 years- all of which the participants paid for. Part of it was to take (re-take, mostly) every single class twi had out. (If you were that dedicated, you took most of them already before signing up.) All of those take less than a year. In fact, we could probably have seen them all done in 4 months (6 if they were stretched out.) The rest of the time was filled in with physical exercise (with no trained medical personnel onsite in case of injury), manual labor (cheaper than free- the students PAID and were sent to WORK manual labor), and sometimes other things like learning sales or reviewing how to pack a suitcase more efficiently. vpw wanted a multi-year program, not an efficient method of passing on knowledge. With the years, he got to instill artificial loyalty alongside the material. And lots of "cheap" labor to renovate and upkeep the grounds at different locations. (A place to stay, cheap food, and they paid to be there.)

This story had several theatrical versions.... -2 were silent films. (One starred Lon Chaney Sr.) -1 was a US live theatrical release. (It starred Charles Laughton and Maureen O'Hara.) -The first silent version and the first color version were both French productions. (The "talkie" starred Anthony Quinn and Gina Lollobrigida.) -At least 1 was animated. (Someone thought this was a good children's story? Apparently... Oddly enough, the US and Australia both thought that. Why? No idea.) -There were television films as well. (One starred Richard Harris, Salma Hayek, and Mandy Patinkin.) And a Carol Burnett spoof. And Canada, Germany and Denmark made musicals. (Why those countries? No idea.)

No.

"You know, you really don't need a forensics team to get to the bottom of this. If you guys were the inventors of Facebook, you'd have invented Facebook."

This story had several theatrical versions.... -2 were silent films. -1 was a US live theatrical releases. -The first silent version and the first color version were both French productions. -At least 1 was animated. -There were television films as well. And a Carol Burnett spoof.

"The Sound of Music."

"And for my next trick..." Wait, that line wasn't in the movie.

Any chance this was "2 Guys, a Girl and a Pizza Place"?