WordWolf

I think this is a very complicated subject, with related sub-categories confused for each other. As I see it (there's no STANDARDIZED terminology), there's demonic possession, demonic obsession, demonic influence, and temptation. With demonic possession, I'm referring to the extreme, when a person has no more control over their body- a demon is "driving." I don't think that could happen to a Christian for the aforementioned reason. With demonic obsession, the person still technically has control, but is prepared to choose to do what the demon wants, whether eagerly or grudgingly, but the result is the demon is in control without actually driving the person. I see Christians as capable at this stage, and it can look like demonic possession for most things- like if they commit murder or something similarly heinous. With demonic influence, the person's inviting demonic activity and may or may not cooperate and do what the demon wants. With temptation, the demon is trying to get some opportunity to act or influence.

This suspense-drama revealed the killer....who was incorporated into the story solely to explain how the incompetent SET DECORATOR ended up tangentially in-shot in a mirror reflection in a supposedly empty room. Rather than fire him, the director made him a recurring character. The director hired a trainer to help one actor speak backwards for his role, only to find out the actor already knew how! (He'd done it with his friends in junior high school!) So the director cancelled the trainer and added more complicated lines for the character. This show introduced the Douglas Fir to the Us viewing audiences.

vpw was a basketball player in HIGH SCHOOL and was never on the team in college. (He said "played basketball all through college", but he never tried to actually say outright he was on either a varsity or junior varsity team.) vpw never played for any team after college. (He said he was "involved with the Sheboygan Redskins" but never actually claimed to play for them. He did claim to invent the hook shot.) In short, vpw was a bit athlete who wasn't really one in college and deceived people by creatively phrasing the truth to make it sound like he was saying one thing when he was saying another.) As for lcm, his football success was slightly more successful than vpw's basketball "career." lcm played football in high school, and told us stories about how difficult it was to learn the MECHANICS of college-level football. Before that, he just ran into opponents, and now he had to learn a series of steps just to perform a block, and it wasn't easy. In college, he "rode the bench" and lcm bragged about being on his team when it was in the Orange Bowl, which was not a lie- but lcm barely got off the bench in the big game. He didn't get his uniform dirty in the big game. "Craig came to HQ basiclly right out of college at KU. He told us while we visited the Corps Chalet (his home on grounds) that he had dreams to play pro football, like most guys who play Division 1 NCAA football do. He said he was a star in high school ball but when he got to the NCAA he realized that all he had to do in high school was grunt and push people out of the way. Craig was always second string at KU. He told us how the COACHES felt other guys picked up the blocking schemes and techniques ("I had to LEARN stuff!" He said.) faster & better than he and played the other guys in practice more than he and he didn't get the opportunity he felt he deserved to prove himself. Therefore he warmed the bench, not playing as much as he wanted. He was upset about his lack of playing time when KU went to the Orange Bowl. His team did actually go to the Orange bowl but Craig wasn't a starter, he hardly even got in the game at all. He didn't get his uniform dirty; that's an insult to a football player." "Craig, to me always seemed a little too attached to his football career. It was pretty obvious to me that he felt he never really got the opportunity to show what he could do. He was angry about his lack of playing time. I believe he felt he was a Pro Bowl calibre player who was treated unfairly. That effected his performance, etc. he never got to play. He rode the bench in the Orange Bowl and it really burned him. Does it make sense to you guys that his behavior through the years reflects that he was definitely gonna do it HIS way. He was gonna do whatever it took to get the reins then run it as he saw fit, IN YOUR FACE!!!!!"

This suspense-drama revealed the killer....who was incorporated into the story solely to explain how the incompetent SET DECORATOR ended up tangentially in-shot in a mirror reflection in a supposedly empty room. Rather than fire him, the director made him a recurring character. The director hired a trainer to help one actor speak backwards for his role, only to find out the actor already knew how! (He'd done it with his friends in junior high school!) So the director cancelled the trainer and added more complicated lines for the character.

That's it. Margaret Dumond was the actress who worked in a lot of Marx Brothers movies. Some people dubbed her "the fourth Marx Brother." Some people have short memories. I understand they didn't know Gummo, who was never in the movies, just the stage-act, but Zeppo was in several movies, the last of which is this one. This before-and-after actually links 2 movies that bombed. Duck Soup wasn't popular until decades later, when college students began screening it while protesting the Vietnam War. It's possibly the purest Marx Brothers movie, which makes it the zaniest- not everyone likes their comedies that madcap. This movie, when released, did poorly enough that Zeppo considered this the right time to leave show business, so it's the last one to feature the original 4.

In this musical comedy, an interdimensional traveler ends up displaced from home and on Earth- where the humans make him the President of the tiny European country of Freedonia. Stars Lea Thompson, Jeffrey Jones, Tim Robbins, Margaret Dumond, and Julius, Adolph, Leonard and Herbert Marx.

Tango & Cash Jack Palance City Slickers

This suspense-drama revealed the killer....who was incorporated into the story solely to explain how the incompetent SET DECORATOR ended up tangentially in-shot in a mirror reflection in a supposedly empty room. Rather than fire him, the director made him a recurring character.

Ah, is this a before and after? Or is it an actual synopsis of a single movie? (If it's the latter, excuse me, I didn't understand.)

The titles are in order. You will have to think a bit to recall the musical comedy with the President of the little European country.

In this musical comedy, an interdimensional traveler ends up displaced from home and on Earth- where the humans make him the President of a tiny European country. Stars Lea Thompson, Jeffrey Jones, Tim Robbins and Margaret Dumond.

In this musical comedy, an interdimensional traveler ends up displaced from home and on Earth- where he's made the President of a tiny European country.

For those curious who have time on their hands, we have discussed the heck out of LEAD on several threads. Here are links for a few: "The L.E.A.D. accident-what happened?" (discussion thread) "The L.E.A.D. accident-what happened?" (Biographical thread) "Other L.E.A.D. questions, stories, etc" "LEAD 1986" "LEAD" "Foolhardy behavior"

The Grammys, too. Frank Sinatra got a Lifetime Achievement Award, and they interrupted his acceptance speech by "playing him off." When Billy Joel later did a song, he suddenly paused, stopped, pretended to listen, and muttered "Valuable advertising time going by." The MTV Movie Awards made fun of it. Yoda won the "Best Fight" Award for SW Episode 2:AotC. When he came up to make his acceptance speech, they began to play him off early on. He did the Jedi hand wave and the music halted. "Play off Yoda does no one." The audience went bananas. :)

Star Trek 6-The Undiscovered Country Kim Catrall Police Academy

Kill Bill Volume ONE, but you're close enough. Volume 1 was a martial arts-feel movie, Volume 2 was a Western-feel movie. BTW, I stuck to lines delivered in English and not captioned into English. I thought it was more fair, even if it excluded a lot of good lines.

I think a jury would see it the same way, and a judge would as well. I know I do.

"Working Girl, Interrupted."

"If you had to guess where she was headed next, what would be your best guess?" "Guessing won't be necessary. She informed me. She said that I could keep my wicked life for two reasons..." "As I said before, I've allowed you to keep your wicked life for two reasons. And the second reason is so you can tell him in person everything that happened here tonight. I want him to witness the extent of my mercy by witnessing your deformed body. I want you to tell him all the information you just told me. I want him to know what I know. I want him to know I want him to know." "As your leader, I encourage you from time to time, and always in a respectful manner, to question my logic. If you're unconvinced that a particular plan of action I've decided is the wisest, tell me so, but allow me to convince you and I promise you right here and now, no subject will ever be taboo. Except, of course, the subject that was just under discussion. The price you pay for bringing up either my Chinese or American heritage as a negative is... I collect your f*ing head." "You have every right to want to get even." "No, no, no, no, no. No, to get even, even-Steven... I would have to kill you... go up to Nikki's room, kill her... then wait for your husband, the good Dr. Bell, to come home and kill him. That would be even, Vernita. That'd be about square." "It was not my intention to do this in front of you. For that I'm sorry. But you can take my word for it, your mother had it comin'. When you grow up, if you still feel raw about it, I'll be waiting."

Even if you read that, IIRC, that poster was caught lying about a bunch of stuff. I wouldn't count on anything you heard being true.

"If you had to guess where she was headed next, what would be your best guess?" "Guessing won't be necessary. She informed me. She said that I could keep my wicked life for two reasons..." "As I said before, I've allowed you to keep your wicked life for two reasons. And the second reason is so you can tell him in person everything that happened here tonight. I want him to witness the extent of my mercy by witnessing your deformed body. I want you to tell him all the information you just told me. I want him to know what I know. I want him to know I want him to know." "As your leader, I encourage you from time to time, and always in a respectful manner, to question my logic. If you're unconvinced that a particular plan of action I've decided is the wisest, tell me so, but allow me to convince you and I promise you right here and now, no subject will ever be taboo. Except, of course, the subject that was just under discussion. The price you pay for bringing up either my Chinese or American heritage as a negative is... I collect your f*ing head."

It doesn't have to be, but I can't think of many shows that had so many guests. Come to think of it, maybe it DOES have to be The Muppet Show. In any event, it IS the Muppet Show. The Brady thing wasn't around the yearS it would take to have so many guests. The Muppet Show sequel was "Muppets Tonight." (1996-1998 plus syndication.) There were many Muppet movies, and there's one in the theaters or getting ready for them now.

These crackpots always have a special exception for celebrities. They don't have to do the gruntwork, they get awards but skip the earning of them, etc. Remember that Tony Collins (New England Patriots) was awarded a WOW pin despite never having gone WOW or even signing up? According to lcm's OWN ACCOUNT (vp and me), all the local leadership in New England were AGAINST lcm showing up and giving him a WOW pin (1984), and told him it was being a "RESPECTER OF PERSONS." lcm decided to do it after consulting with vpw, and was convinced it would further the ministry.

No.

And when there were rapes in the LEAD program, it should have been halted immediately. vpw insisted the program continued, and belittled the risk of rape, saying that one could potentially be raped anywhere. Which, in and of itself, isn't a lie, but is truth phrased to be deceptive. Although it is technically true someone could perform a rape at a church's altar or on the duty sergeant's desk in a police station, the odds are incredibly small in comparison to, say, the specifics required in the LEAD program. That's why, despite there being many church altars in the US, and many duty sergeants' desks in the US, we don't hear about rapes at them but we've heard of rapes during LEAD. IMHO, once the first rape was reported, vpw was complicit in any succeeding ones, since he had a fiduciary responsibility to remove obvious risks from the program, and chose not to do so-rather vocally.