WordWolf

BOTH: 3 drinks if a military reference in a verse is explained as actually being an ATHLETIC reference, a la AOS. 1 drink if a claim is made out of the blue-and is only justified as follows: "you'd believe this if you worked The Word on this" (example: "the Roman soldiers molested Jesus. You'd know this if you worked The Word." ) 1 drink whenever Ephesians is called "the greatest revelation ever given to the Christian church" or equivalent (as if Romans is a waste of time.) 1 drink whenever speaker laughs aloud at his own joke 1 drink whenever "faith" in the KJV is changed into "believing" 1 drink whenever a Version other than the KJV is quoted 1 drink whenever the word "brainwash" or "cult" is used drain glass if something complimentary is said about Christians in another organization; drain a SECOND glass if it's NOT followed by an insult that removes the compliment AND ONLY if the group is NAMED. (I'm planning on collecting these when we're done, BTW....)

I hate to be a wet-blanket, but please try to stick to what few rules apply to coming up with the game-rules... A) please specify if a rule is twi-1, twi-2/3, or both B) the game is played when playing back an AUDIOTAPE. C) (you're following this one) one drink for relatively common stuff, two for rarer stuff, three for very rare/specific stuff (the once-in-a-lifetime stuff can be "drain the glass if") ====================================== For example, BOTH drain entire glass/bottle/can if speaker admits to wrongdoing, legal or moral (must acknowledge it was WRONG to do it) three drinks for an "expanded translation according to usage" two drinks if "plurality giving" is mentioned one drink if some global catastrophe is mentioned, past or present. (Includes "we stopped an earthquake" and "on 1/1/00, civilization will end")

He's usually AT high volume already. It's hard to tell lcm's normal yelling from other yelling, anyway.

So, if I chime in, the establishing will be established. Cool. :)-->

Ok, here's the idea. This, technically, would be 2 games, one for Twi 1, and one for twi 2 & 3. (So, 2 sets of rules.) Someone will put a teaching tape in the machine, and prepare to play. Everyone will have a beverage of choice at hand, preferably alcoholic, and everyone will either be spending the night, or taking a cab home. (Minors are preferably not invited, but can drink soda.) For each specific catchphrase, everyone takes one drink. Especially rare catchphrases may warrant two, and a truly exceptionally rare one may be three, or drain the glass/bottle/can. (I take it you all already understood all this.) So, let's make up the rules for this one. Please specify twi-1 or twi-2,3, or both. =========================================== Both: one drink for every time the phrase "Thank you Father" is said in a prayer one drink for every "clap-along" song. one drink for every attempt at a joke by the speaker twi-2,3 one drink whenever anyone says "standing household" one drink whenever anyone says "remnant" one drink whenever anyone says "prevailing word" three drinks for "standing household of the prevailing word". one drink whenever speaker compares himself to an Old Testament saint. twi-1 one drink every time vpw addresses the audience as "class" no matter the event one drink whenever "traditional Christians" are mocked one drink whenever a "traditional Christian" symbol or holiday is mocked one drink whenever an "alternate title" is said for a renamed holiday ("Ho-Ho", "Resurrection Sunday", "Household Hearts") one drink whenever a class is being promoted one drink whenever a new product/music tape is being promoted; two if it is claimed to be superior to anything on the market Please add your own.

Actually, I liked to get specific... I liked to count "Thank you Father"s. Didn't count unless it was that exact phrase. Could make for a drinking game with the tapes off the teachings, I bet. Every time they say "Thank you Father", everyone takes one drink. (Minors may drink soda.) This gives me an idea....

That's very, VERY interesting. I've been suspecting the Jubbalpore incident was either made-up, or lifted from someone else's account. That's the one where the only proof was vpw tells me so. For those of you blanking on it, we spent 3-4 minutes on it in pfal. That's where vpw's on a train, getting ready to leave town, and an UNBELIEVER comes up to him out of the blue and requests healing for his arm, "BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE IN YOUR JESUS." (Remember NOW, right?) So vpw immediately prays and there's an instant miracle of healing, and the guy's waying his healed arm, jumping up and down, and vpw says "thank God you were healed, in the name of Jesus Christ", just as the train begins pulling out in a nice dramatic exit. So, a miracle of healing was good enough for an unbeliever, when there were no witnesses, long before pfal was ever on the drawing-board...... ...But years later, when there's witnesses, healing is NOT made available for a Christian who TAKES THE CLASS, even, at vpw's direct instruction, (not even slower, gradual healing), but instead, the guy dies. What possible reason could there be for this guy to not get his healing when the guy in Jubbalpore supposedly got HIS? (Don't tell me, let me guess. A) First of all, let's call Uncle H a liar. B) Second of all, let's ridicule the question. C) Third of all, and most important, blame the Christian who needed and wanted the deliverance, who had his needs and his wants parallel, who knew what was available, how to receive it, and what to do with it after he gaught it, who knew that God's ability equals God's willingness.)

The thing is, to them, Geer's ancient history. Is Geer CURRENTLY doing anything to oppose them?

"Have you updated your drivers?" (Dunno what this means, but they always ask that at this point.)

I'm just surprised none of you has a nametag with your screenname on it. Me, I've had one for years. Of course, I use it for stuff off the GSC, but still.

I might wonder where Ralph Dubosky and Vince Finnegan are relative to this list. I am jealous, however, that I'm not on this list. :D-->

There's another virus making the rounds. Since you downloaded all the critical Windows updates, and updated your anitivirus, you should be perfectly safe from it. (If you didn't, I'd get moving.)

PJB is a big boy. He can make up his own mind. He's made it clear that he does not WISH to take advice to keep his legal strategies out of their lawyers' hands, nor does he wish to try to end this by being more morally perfect than the hypocrites that sued him. So, let him have his fun. If it turns out to be expensive, time-consuming fun, well, it's still his fun. Some people spend all their lives playing EverQuest, too.

I thought this about summed it up for me.

I am SO surprised "chair-stringing" didn't make the list. Or polishing all the brass in the auditorium, had to have a spit-shine on that, I noticed. Awful high-maintenance, but it looked nice, and that's what it was all about.... I suppose the other tasks made those look interesting. I made one task of stacking bananas interesting (I had volunteered accidentally- sarcasm was no excuse) by doing the one thing I was reminded of. I sang the banana boat song. I had the distinct impression that several people stopped by, looked in, and elected to leave me alone. I got more done, more quickly, that way. (I DID stop periodically to do the hand-signal for the tarantula, but other than that, I kept a brisk pace.)

====================== Agreed, I think that's how it started.... Would it have been so hard to lay down one of the famous "holy edicts" as soon as it was spotted, rather than utilized as a tool to convince people to climb the ladder a little higher? OTHER organizations (NON-CHRISTIAN organizations, even) have no difficulty keeping members from ascribing additional "rank" amongst themselves by adding symbols....even the young and impressionable ones who are college-age like twi used to target...

"Excuse Me, I Play The Banjo" is shorter and says the same thing. :P-->

So much for your in-depth spiritual perception and awareness! If you were REALLY spiritual, you would have EXACTLY THREE holes in your jacket or shirt. One on the left for a Holy Spirit Dove pin or WOW pin, two on the right for a nametag. If you had skillz, you could poke them thru the same holes each time. Especially since, with all the "material abundance" we were promised from "Christians Should Be Prosperous", we didn't have too many "nice" clothes, so the same meetings meant the same outfits....

No. Right now, the biggest precautions you should take is to keep updating the programs you have (critical Windows updates, AdAware, antivirus, Spybot, firewall). There's some vulnerabilities you can close pretty easily. http://grc.com/freepopular.htm "Shoot the messenger" has nothing to do with "instant messengers" like AIM or ICQ. It shuts off the internal messenger that Microsoft sends you almost no info on, and is usually hijacked to send you ads. "Unplug n' Pray" has nothing to do with "Plug and Play", the nifty thing that helps you use stuff after a simple download. It shuts off that utility you will never use-the theoretical thing that can potentially connect your computer to your tv, dvd-player, cd-player, videogame system, microwave oven, and venetian blinds. It's another security vulnerability. If you work on a network, you may use DCOM. If you have a home pc, it's useless. DCOMbobulator shuts off that security flaw. SocketLock lowers the vulnerability of your pc to hackers. If they get in, they can do a LOT less damage, because they can take over less. You won't even miss it. All of these are tiny, tiny programs, each of which makes your pc more secure. I also downloaded "NoShare" since I don't want networks to have access to my machine. Again, haven't noticed a problem resulting from it. When you're all done, go back to http://www.grc.com and "shields up". You can then test all your new security to see what the average hacker might succeed or fail at. Hm. "Baseline Security Analyzer". That sounds useful... Also, next time you open your Spybot, click on the corner of bricks thing on the left menu. It will set up a permanent immunity to some of the worst programs. See? Painless, and adds to security.

================================ Get out! ZERO intrusions? NOBODY even tried to probe-scan you in passing? (I get a LOT of those. They can't confirm there's a computer on my end, and they go away.) Ok, we can get to "other security measures" soon...

Nicely symbolic, too. Stolen, Made of rotting materials Off-balance Continually being propped-up

Trying to stick to the main topic.... All I've got is speculation and supposition based on first-hand accounts. I do not suspect he physically abused her, hit her, etc. I think we're talking about the other kinds, though. I suspect he used the "carrot-and-stick" approach- loving, but insistent that things go exactly in accordance with his whims, or she would get a lot of grief. My suspicion is that, primarily, it was NOT about money for her. However, this is all speculation, and I can't exactly interrogate her.

Well, that makes it hearsay, in and of itself. If someone sees the post, and replies, saying, "Yes, I was on-staff, and vpw told me personally that my mrs would be a lot more co-operative if I backhanded her every once in a while", then that would be another thing entirely. This might be considered a request for those who might have such testimony to step forward.

Interesting. My thinking, however, is to remember that, sadly, there have been plenty of people who've attempted to lead God's people astray, in following after fornication, and simony, and love of filthy lucre, starting with the sons of Eli and through the present day (if the Lord tarry, there will be more tomorrow). vpw and his criminal band are/were small potatoes in the scheme of things. 100 years from now, (if the Lord tarry), I expect people to still mention BG Leonard, George Mueller, EW Bullinger, EW Kenyon and JE Stiles, but not the slick salesman on the farm that ripped off their material, nor the organization that he dedicated to feeding his own desires. For the sake of the Christians they encounter, I hope the splinter groups grow past his own self-serving doctrines and practices, and follow after CHRIST instead.