Oakspear

You know, I really hate thread titles that give no hint as to what the thread is about (like this one ); but I get sucked in every time

Yes, Townsend did Way Tree. Cummins did the original Dealing With the Adversary class. It may have been redone in the early 80's, not sure

It was in the late 90's, Martindale directed that the Region Coordinators would ordain the chosen ones in their regions. I think Martindale made the decision and the RC's implemented it. At the last ROA Martindale was going to ordain a dozen or so people in front of the audience, but decided during the rehearsal to ordain them there and then. I seem to remember a mass ordination at one of the early ROA's, '79 or '80 maybe. I don't think it was ever made clear nor was it consistant

When I went WOW I was a college dropout with no job experience outside of entry-level jobs, so it was just more of the same as a WOW. My first job was as an apprentice glass cutter and general go-fer. I was fired after the owner's church complained about him hiring a cult member. My second job was as a nurse's aid in a nursing home. It was hard work, but I felt appreciated. We moved mid-year and I worked in a Burger King and later as a dishwasher in a family restaurant. I wasn't ashamed of any of these jobs since I didn't really have any qualifications for anything better. After my WOW year I started a job delivering papers and worked my way up to Regional Sales Manager.

I always proudly wore my WOW pin whenever I was wearing a suit, even at non-TWI occassions. In the late 90's I was wearing it on my lapel when a guy who I had previously had a lot of respect for told me that since the WOW program had been ended, it was no longer appropriate to wear it. I still wore it for a while, but got worn down by the constant "correction". I threw it out a couple of years ago.

In the late 90's they decided that the old green & black bumper stickers were "old wineskins" and "suggested" that we take them off and replace them with the red & white Way of Abundance & Power stickers.

"Bless patrol" had different colored hats: yellow for the grunts, blue (?) for the supervisors, Black & white for the big dogs

I thought "Take a Stand Caravan" was Joyful Noise in 1979.

Well, lessee... We had the blue on white WOW tags, the white on green & green on white Corps tags. Then for a few years there was the gold on purple (?) WOWvet tags, the University of Life (where they white on yellow?) tags, white on green advanced class tags. What were the white on brown ones? Was that staff? Was College division white on red? Or red on white? Nebraska WOWvets had a red on white tag shaped like the state. In the 90's if you took Martindale's advanced class you got a white on blue tag, and were not allowed to wear the old white on green one. The Corps tags changed in the late 90's...they no longer had the Corps number; they were a different shade of green and had Way Corps II on the bottom. How about Way Disciple tags?

Once one of my room mates & I were witnessing in our multi-ethnic neighborhood in NYC. Eric was multilingual. One night Eric witnessed in English, Spanish, Portugeuse and maybe Russian. Same night we see two guys leaning up against a car and started talking to them. They looked real nervous and we soon found out why: they were siphoning gas out of the car they were leaning against! In the mid-nineties, our Way Corps leaders were told that they needed to "teach us to witness". At this time our area was full of WOWvets and people who had been involved in TWI since the eraly 70's. We knew how to witness. One afternoon they took me with them to "teach" me. Mr. WC started talking to a man & his wife, whon turned out to be Mormons who witnessed to him. Instead of being graceful about it our fearless leader started shouting at these Mormons, culminating with "you're inSANE" at the top of his lungs, inside the store! I still won't shop there.

I, even though I am not a believer in the biblical god, rejoice that your arm was healed. Whether it was the result of your god, oxygenated water (inside joke - old thread...sorry ) or beet juice, I'm just happy your arm works now! I wouldn't think of asking you to prove anything...but I still don't believe in your Jesus! (sorry again...PFAL reference )

That's the answer, Jim Hensen could make a frog!

Jen-o: I never got the impression that Whitey followed all TWI doctrine, I've seen him argue against some of it. He has been a vociferous opponent of those who spotlight the sins of TWI's founder, and has expressed doubt about some of the stories appearing here. Maybe that's what threw you.

Man, I just love non sequiters! If I had a boy frog and a girl frog, then I could make a frog. If the frogs cooperated!

Jen-o, when were you involved? During the 90's I knew a few people who weren't involved that heavily due to school, work, etc, but they were always considered to be 2nd Class wayfers, uncommitted, doncha know. It wasn't the norm, by any stretch of the imagination, but they existed. The degree to which casual involvement was tolerated depended greatly upon the personality of the individual leader. By the late 90's we got some hardcore recent Corps grads as leaders and people like yourself were driven off.

It's a good thing we have you to warn us about excessive warning

I agree with Catcup; generally name-calling, even if not direct, means that rational arguments have been exhausted.

Just keeping the household pure

Sometimes these "celebrities got witnessed to" stories are verifiably true and sometimes they're TWI Urban Legends (I knew a guy who was WOW with a guy who...) Skip Mesquite of Tower of Power was in Way Productions and toured & recorded with Joyful Noise & Takit, Garibaldi was in Takit too. TWI had a brochure come out in the early 80's that had some of the celebs in it; Donaldson (I saw him at a rodeo in Omaha once), Shoenheit and Tony Collins were in it (are you sure about Irving Fryer?). Hayes Gahagan was high profile in TWI for a few years and spoke at the ROA at least once. The rest? I'm not so sure. The only "famous" person that I am personally aware of that got witnessed to was Mike Johanns, recently the U.S. Secretary of Agriculture who was witnessed to in Lincoln about ten years ago when he was governer of Nebraska.

And apparently your opinion is that the moderator is lying.But that's just my opinion

Hockey player Jim Schoenfeldt of the Buffalo Sabres and later coach of the Washington Capitols (or was it the Jersey Devils? ) was involved briefly in the early 80's

The "apparent contradiction" in a subject like healing is a difference between theory and practice. In theory, God heals, doesn't want people sick, etc, yet in practice people get sick and die. Not just the ungodly, but folks who you would think God would go out of his way to heal. So people try to come up with a way to explain it all. Why do some people suffer, why do some people die young? People have to make sense of it all somehow. That's good thinking. :)

As of 2001 10 states did not have their own Limb Leader and were combined with other states that did.