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Did the heart monitor, all the stress tests, etc. Heart monitor was useless because she can go a year without a problem, or a week. We've tried to track it on the calender since 2nd grade and nothing "jives" to make a connection on what causes it...stress, diet, etc. Nothing comes together, not even in 2's. It just "happens". Seems everytime before (whether at work, school, football game, etc.) when she's called 911 and they arrived, it has stopped. This last time was the longest ever. It can go from 4 minutes to the last time of over 17 (think it ended up being about 45)...she called me at 17 minutes because it was the longest. It just "occurs" out of the blue. Bites that you can't even connect it withy anything :( . But appreciate your prayers. She's such a great kid too.

That's the key....................does not want it. Can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink...that's not a Way thing but was used there often. CK will get over it........or figure it out. But really, who cares if they made a site on My Space. You can't make them learn....they will do it on their own. I don't think anything said here will change that because they are "he$$ bent" on a mission. The only thing you can do for people in that position is let the go find out they knock their heads against a wall...but they are the only ones that will learn it. Nothing anyone says will change it, especially because of age. I just don't think it's worth even a discussion, fight, or trying to "save". CK is gonna do what CK wants because CK thinks CK has a "mission." It will either fizzle out...(probably) or CK will re-check self. SO many people did the "off-shoot" and it failed. Let CK go do CK's "thing" cause it will come to naught. Why add fuel to the fire for anyone? It will work......or not. No biggie I would think. Let CK make CK's sight. Doesn't really hurt anyone one way or another. Those that want to "go there" will and those that don't won't.

Who really cares if CK does a Way/Non-Way thing on My Space...really. The invitation was put out...those that want to be there and do whatever will be.....those that don't won't. It's not the "first time" an off-shoot thing came from someone leaving the Way...no difference. If you want to check it out, do so; if you don't, then don't. I don't really understand why this is even a topic anymore. An invitation was extended...accept it or reject it. Seems pretty simple to me. Most with a die-hard vengence, one way or another have started a site (for or against)....so CK did. If it doesn't work, I'm sure CK will be back. There are a lot of Way sites on My Space so CK's isn't much different.

"The way to stop a fire is to quit putting gasoline on it."

Prayers for my daughter would be appreciated. She is the one that was in the horrid car accident last year and has had 4 surgeries and will need to schedule a 5th in August as the 4th didn't work. However, she is now plagued with irregular heart rhythems....this isn't from the accident (just posted that part to help re-call her to the minds of those that prayed for her then). She has had this episode off and on since in the 2nd grade. Have had her to heart specialists and they couldn't find anything. 911 always says they can't do anything unless they are there when it is "actually" happening as anytime she or I have called them they arrived right after the fact. Her heart will suddenly beat 200+ beats a minute and you can actually see her shirt jump. She doesn't pass out or anything but when it stops she is extremely tried (naturally) and that night sleeps for 18+ hours. The episode yesterday lasted for almost an hour which is the longest it's ever happened. She called me from work (she's in another state), was in the nurse's station where they monitored her...but she didn't call 911 because she figured it would quit before they got there. Any prayers for her heart muscle to work properly would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Count my prayers in also....prayed for the cat too! Hope it wasn't hurt.

Joe's story brought tears to my eyes. Sounds like he was a great and genuine person. My condolences to his family who lost someone that sounds like a wonderful person.

My condolences to her family also.

Maybe the mom was referring to the dad as a goat.....and the kid was responding that he was a "ram":

ram [ram]

n (plural rams)

1. agriculture male sheep: a male sheep

Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Just a long-shot.....probably a real long shot but that's what came to mind when I read the word "ram".

He was just a "MAN"...he probably could have been more....but pride came in...and as we all know.......Pride comes before a fall.

Time and place....actually you have to focus on the time in the GENERATION that was going on. From that aspect I think he taught alot (even tho later was found out that it was plagerism) but that doesn't deny some of the teachings. But I think he taught what people needed at that time in history/generation to get out of drugs and the hippie movement. Of course I'm from the "old" school and not referring in any way to any of those from 87 on. I'm referring to the 70's. I think he taught a movement that people needed at that time. I think if he had not (even tho I said he plagerized, etc.) I think a lot of people would have committed sucide, died because they didn't like what they were doing but had no "out" or wanted out but didn't know how.....they were searching. TWI was an out for them that gave them something to feel clean and whole again. I think it was an open door to a path it was up to them to find from that point on. I don't throw stones at some of his behavior, but would rather look at, focus on those that probably lived, and still live (even tho I know some died 'after the fact of TWI yadda yadda' I'm not talking about that - that is part of when you get a second chance, you decide how to "spend" it'). But I think with the hippy era going on that he helped a lot of people. Just think it went down the toilet as time went on from there. And if you actually "think"....there are a lot of preachers and sermons that you could classify as "plagerizing"...they repeat someone else's philosophy, teaching, etc. It wasn't actually just HIM, many did and still do. I think he initially took a stand for something good, and as MANY preachers, cross the line when pride occurs...and reaps those results.

The world is taking many nasty directions....mostly sexual. Wasnt that what happened to Sodom and Gomorah? What goes around, comes around...there's nothing new under the sun.. God destroyed Sodem and Gemora because of there sexual stuff. You think today is any differernt? Children? Adults..mosty kids. Why shoud this be any diff then that? Pedifiles were there too..and God destroyed the city. Pedifiles are here now...but diff administration...but in the end...GOD WILL judge these sick people.

I took on a child I knew at 5. Gave him a safe home at 12. Didnt work.

1973 - 1990

I have enough problems being understood and communicating on one TWI board....no thanks...double trouble for me I would think!

I have two friends that both have Chrones disease (sp). One is about to turn 30 the other I'm not sure of the age....but it's a nasty disease and they don't have a lot of research on it. I'd appreciate prayers for both to get delivered. One is a person that wants to start a family but is on meds cause of the disease.....the other is one that has a family and wants to see them through grandchildren. Please pray for them because with technology today, prayers are more important than ever. God knows both and I don't have to name them. You pray for them and He knows who you are talking/prayin for. Thanks!!!

Thank you top. I lost my dad that way too.

A friend of mine, named Rose, has been told she has cancer in her lung, rib bone. She is leaving for chemo and other meds. She's a great lady and needs prayers for her recovery. She had cancer before and it was in remission...now this occured. She'd appreciate any prayers you can extend her way.

I'll get a floppy hat :) ....maybe it will fit :) or maybe not :(

I think now what confuses me is that I am an extremely intelligent and talented person. But I feel the rug always gets pulled out from under me. Do any of you think you have or are going through a period where you honestly question your sanity? I do at times. More often now than before. I fit, yet I don't fit. I was labeled as a rebel and as "what it is not" while at HQ and Emporia because I was a rebel. For my birthday sharing in the Corps I did "what it is NOT", put a scrapbook together and left it for people to read. Everything at TWI for me....I fit into what it was NOT. Yes, I stayed, thought I held my ground with my internal beliefs...still think I did so in many ways because I never gave up my relationship with God and Jesus Christ to a man. Never gave any of them my allegiance. I still feel that way. Yet I still question my brain and sanity at times. Do any of you?

You can download free Bible software at this site and use it when off line also.....if you want a free site.

http://www.nhwc.org/common/content.asp?PAGE=137

I know someone who is still there...although I haven't had contact with her in years. She is there because....she was raised there and that's all she knows.....her parents were a big part of the "beginning years." She was sent out on the field "once" and couldn't hack it and was brought back after 2 months. Kids that are raised "there" I think are in a different relm of insecurity. This person was. The only "life" she knew was there...and that's all she knows now even though she is probably 50. She has no where to go, knows nothing about life except what they taught. I feel sorry for her.

I apparently don't explain myself very well in written form and I apologize for that. I was told the two drink limit, but them I "quit" TWI after discussion. I was wisked off in a plan "Ambassador One" (or whatever it was called then) to pick me up and was sent to VPW who monitored while I traveled with him drinks. He gave me 2 drinks and cut me off...while he drank....it was scotch. After getting out of the WAY, I turned into a drunk...to make up for lost time and control. When things got hairy here, I took it up again after many years. Not proud of it, just a fact.

I was told the 2 drink limit ...then taken on a plane that picked me up....to make sure I didnt drink.

I'm glad you met him. Maybe you can help him. I'm glad you might become his friend. I hope you continue to let people know positives in his life. I still pray for him. God is our maker and the judge and the days and time are short. That's why I pray for him. Thanks for being here and posting.

Is a "BIN" file something bad?....and where do they "usually" come from?

JUST GET OVER IT is such a big thing to ya'll. MY definition of it and when I wrote it...meant:

MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR LIFE.

AND move forward with your life to ME means, let the weights that hold you down diminish.

Do I now need to explain weights? DUH....probably with this group.