I was somewhat surprised to see how computer incompetent they are. I attended my last TWI fellowship around 1987 so I don't recognize the TWI of today. Their website is indicative of a small organization and from what I've read here at GSC, they are most likely now the size of a medium sized metropolitan church. Of course, they pretty much destroyed themselves with LCM's actions but GSC has to be the primary reason their numbers keep shrinking. You can be proud of yourself, Paw.
I've been around here from the beginning and have enjoyed my sojourn immensely. I'll miss the place a lot but I think we'll still manage to keep in touch. Social networking. Friend of a friend contact. That sort of thing. And TWI? Just a shadow of the grand evil organization it used to be.
You were overwhelmingly gracious about that Paw-going to the trouble to call them and posting their response for them when they could have just done it on their own
What has baffled me from day one is why people from a group that contends that they live without any fear, lurk in the shadows like frightened puppies instead of just openly and freely posting their points like everyone else.
So much for 'contending for the faith".
The silence from them, except in that one instance, has been deafening.
It has said as much about way 'faith', what little it has to offer and how substantially inconsequential it is than years of our contrarian posts that try to explain its emptiness.
. . I was somewhat surprised to see how computer incompetent they are. I attended my last TWI fellowship around 1987 so I don't recognize the TWI of today. Their website is indicative of a small organization and from what I've read here at GSC, they are most likely now the size of a medium sized metropolitan church. . . .
It was in 2004-2005 I think, when they announced at the noon meal that the internet is now as common as the Sunday paper . . . whatever that is . . .
IMO . . . Mrs W would have got better care in a nursing home . . . we would often find her wandering alone on grounds . . . saying weird things . . .
twi gets upset about anything that crosses their radar . . . it doesn't matter what . . . what's amazing is they found GSC
There's a certain irony in twi telling people to ONLY go to them and to RUN from anything
else on the internet- then having twi admit that the credible way to publish their response
to something was to use an external site, especially one that was most famous for being
their loudest critic.
This was ironic indeed. It was clearly a face saving response aimed at "innie" Wayfers, yet it was never once mentioned in any other context because no one would openly admit they were out here with the "cop-outs".
I agree with Paw that this must have factored into Harve losing his spot on the B.O.D.
Interesting side note, I found GSC and gave the forums my first serious look at the unwitting prompt of my Limb Coordinator. Mrs. Wierwille had just died and we needed to inform people with a phone call. It had just happened, and I was told I needed to get the word out quickly because, "the cop outs already have it all over the internet." I was surprised at this description and did a bit of googling. Far from "all over the internet", it was being discussed in a thread on the GreaseSpot Cafe forums. Shortly after that, I found my brother out here and learned why he really left The Way. I started to face things I had not given an honest hearing previously. Over the next couple years my TWI relationship completely unraveled. Funny how it was my Limb Coordinator who accidentally lead me here. Thanks, man.
While TWI may not be WWW savvy, some of the followers are.
It took me by surprise a few months ago when my Region Coordinator said to me that he had seen some of my posters on GSC. Nothing else, just that he had seen some of them. Nothing else has ever been said about it.
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There's a certain irony in twi telling people to ONLY go to them and to RUN from anything
else on the internet- then having twi admit that the credible way to publish their response
to something was to use an external site, especially one that was most famous for being
their loudest critic.
On the other hand, the GSC BUILT its own credibility over time (a minority disagree, but a
minority disagrees the space program is real and a minority also things Obama is a Muslim),
and twi has LOST its own credibility over time. Having the LOW credibility place give what
little credibility they have to the HIGH credibility place is amusing, but in all honesty,
the GSC never needed twi to give it credibility.
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I was somewhat surprised to see how computer incompetent they are. I attended my last TWI fellowship around 1987 so I don't recognize the TWI of today. Their website is indicative of a small organization and from what I've read here at GSC, they are most likely now the size of a medium sized metropolitan church. Of course, they pretty much destroyed themselves with LCM's actions but GSC has to be the primary reason their numbers keep shrinking. You can be proud of yourself, Paw.
I've been around here from the beginning and have enjoyed my sojourn immensely. I'll miss the place a lot but I think we'll still manage to keep in touch. Social networking. Friend of a friend contact. That sort of thing. And TWI? Just a shadow of the grand evil organization it used to be.
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You were overwhelmingly gracious about that Paw-going to the trouble to call them and posting their response for them when they could have just done it on their own
What has baffled me from day one is why people from a group that contends that they live without any fear, lurk in the shadows like frightened puppies instead of just openly and freely posting their points like everyone else.
So much for 'contending for the faith".
The silence from them, except in that one instance, has been deafening.
It has said as much about way 'faith', what little it has to offer and how substantially inconsequential it is than years of our contrarian posts that try to explain its emptiness.
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It was in 2004-2005 I think, when they announced at the noon meal that the internet is now as common as the Sunday paper . . . whatever that is . . .
IMO . . . Mrs W would have got better care in a nursing home . . . we would often find her wandering alone on grounds . . . saying weird things . . .
twi gets upset about anything that crosses their radar . . . it doesn't matter what . . . what's amazing is they found GSC
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This was ironic indeed. It was clearly a face saving response aimed at "innie" Wayfers, yet it was never once mentioned in any other context because no one would openly admit they were out here with the "cop-outs".
I agree with Paw that this must have factored into Harve losing his spot on the B.O.D.
Interesting side note, I found GSC and gave the forums my first serious look at the unwitting prompt of my Limb Coordinator. Mrs. Wierwille had just died and we needed to inform people with a phone call. It had just happened, and I was told I needed to get the word out quickly because, "the cop outs already have it all over the internet." I was surprised at this description and did a bit of googling. Far from "all over the internet", it was being discussed in a thread on the GreaseSpot Cafe forums. Shortly after that, I found my brother out here and learned why he really left The Way. I started to face things I had not given an honest hearing previously. Over the next couple years my TWI relationship completely unraveled. Funny how it was my Limb Coordinator who accidentally lead me here. Thanks, man.
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I suppose I should say more specificallly, that TWI gave GSC credibility among current way members.
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While TWI may not be WWW savvy, some of the followers are.
It took me by surprise a few months ago when my Region Coordinator said to me that he had seen some of my posters on GSC. Nothing else, just that he had seen some of them. Nothing else has ever been said about it.
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