What could God possibly need or want? What is God lacking?
I thought the dead were not alive anymore because they were too weary to believe. I wonder if that child just got too tired and stopped believing. Isn't this how vic would cop it out? Of course, he is the authority. And the proof is in the engraving.
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Not that you can't figure it out, or Bolshevik, or even Stayed too Long...
On the off chance that people come here and actually wonder...
Those are actually cultural expressions meant to blunt the pain of losing someone to death. Narratives when rational explanations provide no comfort.
You knew that, right?
Yes. I do. Wow. I didn't mean to come off as insensitive, but I see that's what it looks like. Or that's what it is. Though, that's not who I am. "Religion make otherwise good people do and say wicked things." So can resentment and anger.
This site is about a religious cult I was making a point about religion and theology and also parodying victor. Claiming to know what God wants, or that God wants, is a way cults and charlatans have manipulated earnest seekers of God for thousands of years. There are better threads to make that point
Yes. I do. Wow. I didn't mean to come off as insensitive, but I see that's what it looks like. Or that's what it is. Though, that's not who I am. "Religion make otherwise good people do and say wicked things." So can resentment and anger.
This site is about a religious cult I was making a point about religion and theology and also parodying victor. Claiming to know what God wants, or that God wants, is a way cults and charlatans have manipulated earnest seekers of God for thousands of years. There are better threads to make that point
Any system can be corrupted. Religion occurs so frequently I don't see as something inidivuals dream up on their own. I don't think most occur out of intend to harm but are organically developed.
Any system can be corrupted. Religion occurs so frequently I don't see as something inidivuals dream up on their own. I don't think most occur out of intend to harm but are organically developed.
Obviously, any system can be corrupted. Isn't religion made up and developed as an attempt to explain the unexplainable. It isn't intended to harm, but it often does in spite of itself. This entire site is witness to that. Victor and his minion harmed many in the name of God. The harm and destruction persist today far from New Knoxville one family at a time.
The doctrines of original sin and vicarious redemption were systematically developed over time. Human child sacrifice is one of the oldest, longest running religious practices, older than developed systematic Christian theology. Who came up with these ideas? Who invented them? God or man?
Obviously, any system can be corrupted. Isn't religion made up and developed as an attempt to explain the unexplainable. It isn't intended to harm, but it often does in spite of itself. This entire site is witness to that. Victor and his minion harmed many in the name of God. The harm and destruction persist today far from New Knoxville one family at a time.
The doctrines of original sin and vicarious redemption were systematically developed over time. Human child sacrifice is one of the oldest, longest running religious practices, older than developed systematic Christian theology. Who came up with these ideas? Who invented them? God or man?
I believe Victor was damaged.
He took advantage of those who lacked a better narrative themselves.
I don't think sacrifice was invented. That is a thing that occurs naturally. Religion is a way to describe living in reality.
Our modern materialistic viewpoint often has us viewing the world as if we are separate from it. When we realize this is not the case Mr. Heizenberg comes to mind.
He took advantage of those who lacked a better narrative themselves.
I don't think sacrifice was invented. That is a thing that occurs naturally. Religion is a way to describe living in reality.
Our modern materialistic viewpoint often has us viewing the world as if we are separate from it. When we realize this is not the case Mr. Heizenberg comes to mind.
Narcissists view any disagreement with them as abusive. Ignoring or not fulfilling their desire for supply is hurtful to the image they've constructed for themselves. The narcissist's perceived hurt justifies their martyrdom, making those who are actually abused into the guilty abusers. And so the cycle continues. This destructive behavior must not be excused because they are damaged.
Human child sacrifice as a burnt offering for the season, the harvest, the war, the disease is a natural occurrence? Ok.
Narcissists view any disagreement with them as abusive. Ignoring or not fulfilling their desire for supply is hurtful to the image they've constructed for themselves. The narcissist's perceived hurt justifies their martyrdom, making those who are actually abused into the guilty abusers. And so the cycle continues. This destructive behavior must not be excused because they are damaged.
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According to ICSA. Over 95 or 99 % initially socially distance themselves from a cultie.
So, they instinctively know they are sick. The emotion for disgust is also natural. You make a face like nasty food is trying to get in your mouth. Your hind brain is trying to protect you from getting sick. Don't eat things that make you sick. Don't eat the fruit.
Jesus is what, an archetype? What does he symbolize?
People sacrifice themselves and their children for their country all the time.
But the Bible bothers people.
I find that odd.
The Self.
I sacrifice myself for my son, but I wouldn't offer my son as a sacrifice to any religious or political ideology.
The Bible doesn't bother me at all. As with all Myth I find it fascinating, informative and inspiring on many levels in many ways. It's man's contrived interpretation of it as a way to justify control, obedience and guilt that I find disgusting.
I sacrifice myself for my son, but I wouldn't offer my son as a sacrifice to any religious or political ideology.
The Bible doesn't bother me at all. As with all Myth I find it fascinating, informative and inspiring on many levels in many ways. It's man's contrived interpretation of it as a way to justify control, obedience and guilt that I find disgusting.
Right, it's deeper than some outward act, but should result in some outward action, or guide decisions, based on the previous experience of generations with similar DNA. We live in a world of symbols, according to Mr. Watts.
"Man's contrived" . . That sounds like VPW. Man-made is a word used outside of TWI. I'm just mentioning that.
But I think you are describing the tyrannical form of the symbolic father. Overly rigid as opposed to benevolent.
Right, it's deeper than some outward act, but should result in some outward action, or guide decisions, based on the previous experience of generations with similar DNA. We live in a world of symbols, according to Mr. Watts.
"Man's contrived" . . That sounds like VPW. Man-made is a word used outside of TWI. I'm just mentioning that.
But I think you are describing the tyrannical form of the symbolic father. Overly rigid as opposed to benevolent.
Yeah, "contrived" is unnecessary, superfluous. A remnant from the wierwille parody. Just mark it out.
There are symbols everywhere. But the symbols are not that. As discussed in another thread, language is symbol. And that's fine and obvious. But symbol isn't everything. The word "tree" is not the tree.
Perhaps that is what I'm describing. Which form of the father the father told Abraham to kill his son and then sent an angel to say never mind kill that ram instead? I'm sure it's evident, but this story troubles me. Maybe I just don't understand it.
There are symbols everywhere. But the symbols are not that. As discussed in another thread, language is symbol. And that's fine and obvious. But symbol isn't everything. The word "tree" is not the tree.
. . .
But you have decided a tree is a tree as opposed to background noise or a donkey. That's Genesis. That's logos. Deciding what exists. Judging what is useful and what is dangerous.
I didn't decide nor judge. The word tree is not that. I'm not naming it the tree, I'm just observing what is. At least that's what I try to do. Can I look without judging, labeling, forming an image about it and just see it for what it is?
A risk of looking for and finding symbols in everything is not seeing what actually is.
We have created scenarios that we believe will happen in the future after death to make us feel better. The bible only tells us to be comforted by the return of Jesus. No mention of spouses being reunited as husband and wife. What about the women who was married 4 times? Do any of her husbands even want to spend eternity with her? Nagging wives might be left out in the cold at the return if no husband wants to listen to her go on and on forever.
Being a Muslim warrior is about the best men can hope for, getting to enjoy sex with 70 virgins forever.
We even had to create a heaven for pets in the 1980’s. The Rainbow Bridge assures us we will be reunited with our beloved pets in the future. Can you imagine the reunion of someone who has had 10 pets in their life? How about the pet that was owned by 3 people? Will there be a shared custody agreements for those in these instances? What about the pet that was abused by its owner? He probablty would only want to bite the owner all day long forever.
Men seem to create feel good sceneries with no thought as go how it will be carried out.
I didn't decide nor judge. The word tree is not that. I'm not naming it the tree, I'm just observing what is. At least that's what I try to do. Can I look without judging, labeling, forming an image about it and just see it for what it is?
A risk of looking for and finding symbols in everything is not seeing what actually is.
No you cannot. You judge everytime you eat something. You make judgements about whether it is food or not.
A funny way to look at it is to wonder if a dog knows they are a dog.
Being a Muslim about the best men can hope for, having sex with 70 virgins throughout eternity.
Question? How does one keep a woman a virgin in perpetuity? Will the courageous warrior have to accept used women after the 70th roll in the hay? Will he even want to support these women after 70 nites of bliss? Maybe there will be another war to fight and he can turn in the now non virgins for 70 new virgins?
Just like the child being a rose petal in God’s garden, you can fill in the ending of this story for the Muslim man however it will make you feel good. Facts and reality serve no purpose in much of today’s logic. Feeling good is of the unmost importance.
. . . Facts and reality serve no purpose in much of today’s logic. Feeling good is of the unmost importance.
You went on about some Muslim porn scene with rose pedals. You could pedal that.
You're thinking about a dopamine detox? Like fasting?
If our minds decided we don't exist. The Self does not exist . . . Isn't that suicide?
What I think you're pointing at is the "feel good" protections people use to protect their identity, their self and how it connects to other selfs. That this happens is a fact and could said to be real. You could also stare into the void.
Question? How does one keep a woman a virgin in perpetuity? Will the courageous warrior have to accept used women after the 70th roll in the hay? Will he even want to support these women after 70 nites of bliss? Maybe there will be another war to fight and he can turn in the now non virgins for 70 new virgins?
Just like the child being a rose petal in God’s garden, you can fill in the ending of this story for the Muslim man however it will make you feel good. Facts and reality serve no purpose in much of today’s logic. Feeling good is of the unmost importance.
Today's what? Do you mean today's American culture and society? With that specified I'd agree with you. Culture and society never has been about logic. However, I could direct you to numerous books to shed light on the subject, if you'd like. Just let me know.
Regardless, I realize it's incredibly frustrating to come to awareness that facts and reality play such a small role in American culture. Btw, I have a t-shirt which declares "Truth Matters: Go Fact Yourself."
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I will predict his garden is going to get bigger.
If nobody in the world dies by morning, I will eat my own head.
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You mean petal, right, Stayed?
To which god, I wonder, did this obit refer?
What could God possibly need or want? What is God lacking?
I thought the dead were not alive anymore because they were too weary to believe. I wonder if that child just got too tired and stopped believing. Isn't this how vic would cop it out? Of course, he is the authority. And the proof is in the engraving.
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Not that you can't figure it out, or Bolshevik, or even Stayed too Long...
On the off chance that people come here and actually wonder...
Those are actually cultural expressions meant to blunt the pain of losing someone to death. Narratives when rational explanations provide no comfort.
You knew that, right?
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Yes. I do. Wow. I didn't mean to come off as insensitive, but I see that's what it looks like. Or that's what it is. Though, that's not who I am. "Religion make otherwise good people do and say wicked things." So can resentment and anger.
This site is about a religious cult I was making a point about religion and theology and also parodying victor. Claiming to know what God wants, or that God wants, is a way cults and charlatans have manipulated earnest seekers of God for thousands of years. There are better threads to make that point
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Any system can be corrupted. Religion occurs so frequently I don't see as something inidivuals dream up on their own. I don't think most occur out of intend to harm but are organically developed.
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Obviously, any system can be corrupted. Isn't religion made up and developed as an attempt to explain the unexplainable. It isn't intended to harm, but it often does in spite of itself. This entire site is witness to that. Victor and his minion harmed many in the name of God. The harm and destruction persist today far from New Knoxville one family at a time.
The doctrines of original sin and vicarious redemption were systematically developed over time. Human child sacrifice is one of the oldest, longest running religious practices, older than developed systematic Christian theology. Who came up with these ideas? Who invented them? God or man?
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I believe Victor was damaged.
He took advantage of those who lacked a better narrative themselves.
I don't think sacrifice was invented. That is a thing that occurs naturally. Religion is a way to describe living in reality.
Our modern materialistic viewpoint often has us viewing the world as if we are separate from it. When we realize this is not the case Mr. Heizenberg comes to mind.
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Narcissists view any disagreement with them as abusive. Ignoring or not fulfilling their desire for supply is hurtful to the image they've constructed for themselves. The narcissist's perceived hurt justifies their martyrdom, making those who are actually abused into the guilty abusers. And so the cycle continues. This destructive behavior must not be excused because they are damaged.
Human child sacrifice as a burnt offering for the season, the harvest, the war, the disease is a natural occurrence? Ok.
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Sacrifice is natural. We all do it.
Any system can become corrupted.
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Jesus is what, an archetype? What does he symbolize?
People sacrifice themselves and their children for their country all the time.
But the Bible bothers people.
I find that odd.
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According to ICSA. Over 95 or 99 % initially socially distance themselves from a cultie.
So, they instinctively know they are sick. The emotion for disgust is also natural. You make a face like nasty food is trying to get in your mouth. Your hind brain is trying to protect you from getting sick. Don't eat things that make you sick. Don't eat the fruit.
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The Self.
I sacrifice myself for my son, but I wouldn't offer my son as a sacrifice to any religious or political ideology.
The Bible doesn't bother me at all. As with all Myth I find it fascinating, informative and inspiring on many levels in many ways. It's man's contrived interpretation of it as a way to justify control, obedience and guilt that I find disgusting.
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Right, it's deeper than some outward act, but should result in some outward action, or guide decisions, based on the previous experience of generations with similar DNA. We live in a world of symbols, according to Mr. Watts.
"Man's contrived" . . That sounds like VPW. Man-made is a word used outside of TWI. I'm just mentioning that.
But I think you are describing the tyrannical form of the symbolic father. Overly rigid as opposed to benevolent.
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Yeah, "contrived" is unnecessary, superfluous. A remnant from the wierwille parody. Just mark it out.
There are symbols everywhere. But the symbols are not that. As discussed in another thread, language is symbol. And that's fine and obvious. But symbol isn't everything. The word "tree" is not the tree.
Perhaps that is what I'm describing. Which form of the father the father told Abraham to kill his son and then sent an angel to say never mind kill that ram instead? I'm sure it's evident, but this story troubles me. Maybe I just don't understand it.
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But you have decided a tree is a tree as opposed to background noise or a donkey. That's Genesis. That's logos. Deciding what exists. Judging what is useful and what is dangerous.
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I didn't decide nor judge. The word tree is not that. I'm not naming it the tree, I'm just observing what is. At least that's what I try to do. Can I look without judging, labeling, forming an image about it and just see it for what it is?
A risk of looking for and finding symbols in everything is not seeing what actually is.
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This is how death was mourned in the 1800’s. No mention of God calling them home, them meeting in heaven, god needing a rose petal, or God’s choir needing expanding.
https://swahsociety.com/records/obituaries/obituaries-1880s
We have created scenarios that we believe will happen in the future after death to make us feel better. The bible only tells us to be comforted by the return of Jesus. No mention of spouses being reunited as husband and wife. What about the women who was married 4 times? Do any of her husbands even want to spend eternity with her? Nagging wives might be left out in the cold at the return if no husband wants to listen to her go on and on forever.
Being a Muslim warrior is about the best men can hope for, getting to enjoy sex with 70 virgins forever.
We even had to create a heaven for pets in the 1980’s. The Rainbow Bridge assures us we will be reunited with our beloved pets in the future. Can you imagine the reunion of someone who has had 10 pets in their life? How about the pet that was owned by 3 people? Will there be a shared custody agreements for those in these instances? What about the pet that was abused by its owner? He probablty would only want to bite the owner all day long forever.
Men seem to create feel good sceneries with no thought as go how it will be carried out.
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No you cannot. You judge everytime you eat something. You make judgements about whether it is food or not.
A funny way to look at it is to wonder if a dog knows they are a dog.
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I'm looking at objects now. I look at a thing, I recognize a thing as a chair. I recognize it's purpose. What else do our eyes and brains do?
Are you referring to some sort of meditation?
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Do things interpret themselves? Do they tell you "I am this, not that".
You judge a thing. You decide it's potential. Brains think in symbols.
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Or mindfulness? You're still thinking. And you have an unconscious. And what science is there about that?
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Question? How does one keep a woman a virgin in perpetuity? Will the courageous warrior have to accept used women after the 70th roll in the hay? Will he even want to support these women after 70 nites of bliss? Maybe there will be another war to fight and he can turn in the now non virgins for 70 new virgins?
Edited by Stayed Too LongJust like the child being a rose petal in God’s garden, you can fill in the ending of this story for the Muslim man however it will make you feel good. Facts and reality serve no purpose in much of today’s logic. Feeling good is of the unmost importance.
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You went on about some Muslim porn scene with rose pedals. You could pedal that.
You're thinking about a dopamine detox? Like fasting?
If our minds decided we don't exist. The Self does not exist . . . Isn't that suicide?
What I think you're pointing at is the "feel good" protections people use to protect their identity, their self and how it connects to other selfs. That this happens is a fact and could said to be real. You could also stare into the void.
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Today's what? Do you mean today's American culture and society? With that specified I'd agree with you. Culture and society never has been about logic. However, I could direct you to numerous books to shed light on the subject, if you'd like. Just let me know.
Regardless, I realize it's incredibly frustrating to come to awareness that facts and reality play such a small role in American culture. Btw, I have a t-shirt which declares "Truth Matters: Go Fact Yourself."
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