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This sounds plausible.

And where the eff did they get "more than 900 people" to sign up as Way Ambassadors? Or is it just that they have 900 actual "members" and declared that wherever they are they are "ambassadors of TWI"? A mere technicality to be able to claim they have 900 ambassadors.

Great question.

NEW KNOXVILLE — The Way International concluded its four-day festival, Rock of Ages ’25, on Saturday evening with music and a fireworks show. The event drew more than 3,000 participants from around the world, according to a release from The Way International, with attendees enjoying amenities such as a petting zoo, a splash pad, food trucks and more. The final tent meeting included the commissioning of more than 900 people to serve as Way Ambassadors for the next nine months, traveling throughout the globe and spreading the message of The Way. For more information, go to theway.org. Link to the article here. It looks like they are now editing whatever press release TWI sends to the paper. I especially like how they most likely changed the wording from "spreading the Word of God" or "sharing information on how to properly interpret the Bible" or some other TWI-speak nonsense. "More than 3,000 people" - were these people pestered over and over until they caved in and used vacation and PTO to appease the gods of TWI?

Agree. I believe they also believed then (as perhaps they do today) that belief in Jesus Christ only is required for salvation and completely fulfills the Abrahamic covenant. As said in Romans, TWI drilled into us that both Jew and Gentile form one Body of Christ which is the only way to salvation. (THERE IS NO OTHER WAY). This is sometimes referred to as "replacement theology". Here's what AI says and I believe it fits with TWI beliefs: Key aspects of Replacement Theology include The Church as the "New Israel": Proponents believe the Church is now the true, spiritual Israel, inheriting the blessings and roles originally promised to the Jewish nation. Abolishment or Fulfillment of Covenants: Replacement theology suggests that the Old Testament Mosaic covenant and potentially the Abrahamic covenant have been either abolished or fulfilled by the New Covenant in Christ. This can imply that the land promises made to Israel in the Old Testament are no longer relevant in a literal sense. Israel's Diminished or Ended Role: This view asserts that God's program and interest in the nation of Israel, as a distinct entity, have ended following their rejection of Jesus as Messiah.

Still waters run deep.On the surface its all smiles and wonderful. Below the surface is still the same stuff.Are you giving enough? Nothing has changed.Renewal,restoration? We renew our minds to the scripture,retoration? Hell for the last 25 years I have seen plenty.So again when ya call'em a religion it is the same ole same ole. Peace all

The analogy I remember spoke of birds landing and birds roosting.

It was actually Oldiesman quoting Mike. I'm not sure this insight was unique to Victor Wierwille.

That I quoted a claim made by George Orwell doesn't prove or disprove anything. It does, however, give you some food for thought... if you wish to exercise it.

Excellent characterization.

Intriguing, Oldies, that you refer to AI as "our friend." There have been posts on TWI before that had hallmarks of AI. Clearly, AI, which Harari calls Alien Intelligence, is far from perfect.

I also found this woman who makes some good arguments to counter "Christian nationalism." And I can tell you - the way she looks would not be acceptable at all to TWI. But what she says - well, neither would most of that either. So? (3) Facebook As she says - refute it from the Bible - if you can. LoL.

Your suspicion is correct. The Ten Commandments were considered passe, having been superceded by The Great Commandment. I'm pretty sure they would have rather had posters promoting S.I.T. In regard to Christian Nationalism, Wierwille was a close follower of Willis Carto and The Liberty Lobby. You can draw your own conclusions.

Would TWI or victor support the mandatory display of the Ten Commandments in classrooms - a hallmark of contemporary Christian Nationalism? I suspect they wouldn't, since that's a Jew thing and that Jew law doesn't apply to Christians. Any thoughts on this?

Christian Nationalism, Jihadism Tomato, Tomahto *projectile vomits*

You're welcome. You're welcome.

I think what it shows is that AI is only as reliable as the data fed into it, which might or might not be accurate and/or biased.

Thank you penworks. You're research proves that even AI doesn't know it all! I did a few other AI searches with some of your research material, and AI included snippets of your information not posted in the first AI search. So overall I believe this proves that AI isn't comprehensive all the time... Something good to know for future reference...

This just popped into my Facebook feed: (3) Facebook - a clip by one Pastor Paul Drees, about power (and abuse thereof) in Christian Nationalism

The teaching I'm thinking of was presented in the live, 1972, Dealing With The Adversary Class. The essence of it was that what we call the subconscious is really a spiritual force looking for a way to sneak through the "trap door". I'm not saying I believe this stuff, just saying this is what I remember being taught. edit: This is why you were supposed to counteract it by quoting scripture.

Agree...

I remember the opposite... I believe they said that what we feed our conscious brains will seep in to the subconscious; and that's why retemories are very good.

OK so I'm driving or riding on the highway and my free will says to keep moving and I love to and want to. Suddenly, an urgent bodily function tells my brain that I'm about to sht in my pants. So what does my "free will" do? Continue and sht in my pants, or stop the vehicle, run to the trees and bushes nearby and take care of business? I don't know. I'm free to take care of business which overruled my freedom to continue moving. So I believe therein lies the glaring truth that I can't have uninterrupted free will. Just in case you're wondering, this has happened to me more than once.

No. More lyrics: It's lonely out tonight And the feelin' just got right for a brand new love song. Sadly, this song only goes back and forth between the same verse and the refrain, and the refrain contains the title. George