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  2. "Thousands of people have come to know God and His Word through The Way International and yet may not have a knowledge of the work and believing it took to build the ministry. This book presents a snapshot of a few of the original “bridge builders” of The Way. Reading it, you will grow in appreciation for the commitment, the selflessness, and the labor of love and believing that these men and women invested. Their stand has enabled each of us to receive the rightly divided Word and to enjoy the fellowship of like-minded believers as we live according to God’s Word today Dorothea Wierwille Don and Wanda Wierwille Harry and Naomi Wierwille Rhoda Wierwille Mal and Jan George Howard Allen Emogene Allen George and Bernita Jess Eddie and Donna Doersam " A friend of mine gave me this one as a gift, if anyone is interested in the content. Just let me know. I think that most of these people mentioned in the book were good people what had a heart for God, however at some point they became enablers of what happened "backstage".
  3. Yes! You are right! I'm sorry oldiesman, my mistake.
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  5. Hi Joe, I think you're referring to the "Word of Faith" movement? The link below is a little more narrative about it and exposes it as gravely wrong thinking/believing. Says it was promoted by E.W. Kenyon... although there were others. https://www.gotquestions.org/Word-Faith.html I have to catch myself doing the "name it and claim it" routine... it's still so ingrained in my head and a very bad habit. It could have elements of "the sin of presumption" which is a big no-no in the catholic church. Part of the healing process for me, has been to read and memorize catholic prayers... Thx for posting this.
  6. We can clearly rule them out both due to them being heftier. No, it wasn't anyone from my lifetime.
  7. For those people who think that the PLAGIARISM stopped with vpw -who plagiarized just about EVERYTHING he ever taught- THIS IS PLAGIARIZED from chris geer. Complete with the plagiarized title. They didn't even bother to change the name. When vpw plagiarized 2 of Bullinger's papers to make "Are the Dead Alive Now?", he at least changed the title. He was lazy enough to keep the question format for it, but he changed the title. They didn't even bother to do that. Oh, but they don't do the harmful things they did before. Yeah, right. If they're doing this, they're still getting away with anything their lawyers say they can still do. The only real changes have been to quiet their lawyers. Outside of twi, I've never heard of a church group who does the right thing on advice of their lawyers, or are less moral and nice than their lawyers.
  8. All they research is OTHER PEOPLE'S WORK. Still banging on about "faith" and "believing." They might want to pay attention to the book of James, specifically at ch.2. Unfortunately we know all too well what are TWI's deeds and works. And the only physical needs that are provided for are the adulterous needs of leaders. Let's see some of their faith/believing/call it what you will, by them first apologising for past behaviour, seeking out their victims with genuine remorse, and now getting on with genuinely helping their local community without any expectation of reward or recognition. Without doubt there will be homeless, impoverished or hungry people within a very short radius of HQ; families who are in "heat or eat" mode or have other financial difficulties; those who can't afford medical bills, etc.
  9. So BMI = 703W/H**2. Being thin reduces the numerator. Being tall increases the denominator. Height actually has a greater proportionate effect. A 10% drop in weight (same height) drops the BMI 10%. A 10% increase in height (same weight) drops the BMI 21%. Unfortunately, almost half of the presidents were 6"0" or taller. Clearly, we can rule out Taft and Trump. I'll try George H. Bush. George
  10. "Working this topic...working the word...work the word..." -- VPW/TWI "If it doesn't fit, ya gotta MAKE it fit." -- VPW
  11. Ripley would be proud of the effort. (At least, that's what I believe.)
  12. William Atherton Real Genius Jon Gries George
  13. "Since the 1970s, The Way International has been engaged in a Biblical study of the Greek word pistis...Many on the ministry research team continued working this topic..." *exasperated sigh* More Information Part I-OVERVIEW The Green Noun pistis Believing (pistis)-Positive or Negative Believing Renewed-Mind Believing, the Manifestation of Believing, and Fruit-of-the-Spirit Believing. Faith (pistis)-The Faith of Jesus Christ and the Family Faith Faithfulness (pistis) Keys to Rightly Dividing the Word pistis The Verb-pisteuo The Adjective-pistos Part II-BELIEVING AND FAITH Summary of Occurrences Faith, Believing, or Faithfulness-pistis Believe, to be Entrusted with, or to Entrust-pisteuo Faithful, Trusting-pistos Summary of Usages Table of Usages 1-8 Part III-UNBELIEF/UNBELIEVING Little Faith (Believing)-oligopistos Unbelief-apistea Believe not-apisteo Unbelieving, Faithless, Infidel-apistos Unbelief, Disobedience-apeithea Unbelieving, Believe Not-apeitheo Disobedient-apeithes Table of Usages 9-15 Occurrences and Usages of oligopistos, apistia, apisteo, apistos, apeitheia, apeitheo, apeithes APPENDIX Number of Occurrences in the King James Version https://store.theway.org/store/bible-kinds-of-faith/
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  15. "Since the 1970s, The Way International has been engaged in a Biblical study of the Greek word pistis, most often translated “faith” in the King James Version of the Bible, to understand its accurate usage in the New Testament. The words “faith” and “believing” in the King James and other versions of the Bible are used interchangeably; however, they are not synonymous. One concern has been that the current English usage of the word “faith” implies no believing action, which the context of many of the occurrences of pistis shows in the Scriptures. Many on the ministry research team continued working this topic over the years, seeking to understand the different uses and usages of this word pistis and the different Bible kinds of faith" The Way continues to build on the "Gospel of Faith" movement.... that Victor Paul Wierwille took from Kenyon, Cliffe and many others.
  16. No. For the record, he's neither the first nor second place-r. How to calculate BMI..... Take the weight in pounds, and multiply it by 703. Then, divide the product by your height in inches (12 inches to the foot), then divide that quotient by your height in inches (yes, a second time.) The result is the BMI. For this round, using a calculator is not cheating, but looking it up still counts as cheating.
  17. Honey Don't For anyone interested, HERE is the original by Carl Perkins.
  18. I think this is a typical post from someone who claims we should forgive and move on, and that now the ministry has a new twist. Besides that....forgiveness is a release from guilt, but it doesn't imply the restoration of a relationship. Because that requires repentance, which in TWI's case is asking for forgiveness from the people they have harmed and acknowledging that Wierwille was a plagiarist and that he harmed/abused many people. And we all know that TWI WILL NEVER DO THAT. And I do not agree about "The new face of TWI", because TWI appears different on the outside but internally it is still basically the same - a cult. For those asking, YES, TWI has been promoting ROA 25 as an "open christian festival" and encourages people to invite friends (even if they are outside the ministry), However that is the same old lie to appeal to young people. Have a good day!
  19. Sorry. Got a lot on my plate, these days. I need to pay closer attention.
  20. Let me try to narrow this down. It is one of 11 Ringo Starr songs (with The Beatles) in which he sang lead vocals. Obviously this isn't "Octopus's Garden" or "With A Little Help From My Friends", or "Yellow Submarine". So there you go. There's only 8 more songs to choose from. Ringo sang lead on one song on almost every album by ~The Beatles~`. They had 12 studio albums. Come on. This is pretty easy breezy.
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