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Wow one more long diatribe where Mike himself is the focus and gets the glory. All while false humility saying God gets credit. In all of this we hear story after story of how 3rd party people fictionally verify Mikes superior intellect. We hear not one post of substance sharing anything he taught the group or shared with the group as he claimed. Then he ignores people and gaslights any attempts to dig for real information. I was gonna complain about contaminating a thread with bullshonta but I changed my mind. 35. Mike you yourself are a perfect example of why PFAL sucks. After 20 years of having your head buried in it, looks at this guy. High narcissism high mental density factor all with the view he is smarter than everyone else. No ability to interact in a community or understand group dynamics. Zero emotional intelligence. Flawed logic up and down. Oh but with a view like he has the Ironman suit gift and others don’t. Don’t take PFAL. Don’t be like Mike.

Isn’t it weird how narcissistic people always eventually place themselves as God judging others or the Savior saving people? In their own mind they make perfect sense but when you read it out loud it just sounds like nonsense. we all stand on our own 2 feet before our personal lord and savior. we don’t need narcissists, geniuses, science clubs, mental patients or organizations to insert themselves in between because they view themselves to be special.

Your wierwillian judgmentalism really comes out with these statements. Who are you to judge another man's walk? So- if im to translate your way speak here....people are smart when they are following wierwilles formulaic approach to walking for God and when they no longer toe the line they become stupid because holy spirit no longer operates in them. And people who disagree with you lose IQ because that disagreement is based in hate. Either way your assumed superiority shines through here, both morally and intellectually.

Your narcissistQ seems to be very high, I’m sure though that doesn’t affect IQ I have seen previously smart men rendered quite stupid when continuing discourse with fools. That’s probably happening here according to proverbs. Rocky is correct we bear responsibility for feeding the trolls. what you have need of is attention

A) Most scholars are actively looking for the truth. That's why researchers research and experimenters experiment- they're looking for some form of the truth. B) This black/white thinking you laud is incredibly harmful, and is obvious in moments like this. If one has "found the truth on an issue", one must maintain the POSSIBILITY that one is wrong, and that a greater truth is out there. Otherwise, when greater truth arrives, one will actively SUPPRESS it and be HOSTILE to it. I've changed my mind when greater information overrode what I previously believed- and wanted to believe. When they discovered the atom, they believed it was insplittable, and named it so- "atom", uncuttable. Then someone figured out how to split the atom. Were they taken out and beaten to death with a rock? No- tentatively, scientists looked to see if he was right. When he demonstrated he was correct, they changed their thinking. Scientists used to be Lamarckians. They used to think that DNA or whatever was simple, and easy to change. They believed the agent of change was activity. When a proto-giraffe stretched its neck to reach leaves, its offspring would have a slightly longer neck. When a bird needed a sharper beak or a harder beak, his offspring would inherit it. And so on. (Charles Darwin was a Lamarckian.) Since then, they've discarded Lamarckianism because DNA is FAR more complicated, and does not work like that. So, for the rest of us, it's possible to change our minds- even if it will take a lot. This keeps us from missing something greater, more fundamental. You're proud nothing can change your mind. I wouldn't brag about that.

This hypocrisy needs to be understood. Well said. victor went to great lengths to bash academia, yet he beleeeved those credentials to be so very important that he purchased a "degree" so he could pretend to have academic authority and credibility. Why invoke an academic title, if it's meaningless?

Do you read what you write? Or do you fade in and out? Saint Vic was obsessed with academia. After all, he implied he went to Princeton university and insisted everyone call him doctor. I doubt he had a TARIS hidden somewhere. So, considering his obsession with academia, by your own admission he was NOT ALLOWED to have the truth or know it if it was in his lap.

So I used to think as I was taught that leaving the Way would produce some negative spiritual result, loss of fellowship with God, loss of active HS as they taught in the cult. Interestingly enough there are very similar doctrines and functioning surrounding leaving the Mormon church, the Jehovahs Witnesses, Scientology. All of them engineered to plant a seed of doubt, sow confusion, hinder communication, and isolate a person with respect to their faith. Groupthink murderers. Inspired by their father the devil, these blowhards exert their dominant energy and opinion over others accomplishing their fathers will. Bondage, dominance, inflict depression through stealing hope. The true doctrine and body of Christ promote functioning all throughout and a person finding their place in their church and faith. Not the hopelessness and bondage imposed by cults.

Lol from the #1 sh1tp0ster who never started a thread here but pollutes everyone else’s. Hey irony boy

And genuinely intelligent people don't need to brag about their intelligence. If you're intelligent people will know it soon enough.

So for you, an open and closed mind works like a faucet with an on / off switch? Wow that is real black and white. How is that working for you in a gray world? I tend to view my open mind more like a crucible. I put an idea in there and turn up the heat.

Hmmm. So unlike the conversations you are involved in here, true brain scientist superstars can see from a brief conversation that you have an intellect they really want to engage with? And include in on their informal research groups for a 7 year period of time? It must be that all of us just don’t quite have a high enough IQ to understand you. Except I have asked you repeatedly for any example of what you contributed and you have ducked those questions. Surely you have more than that trollshonta.

I’m not buying it. The two foundations you listed show activity in Neuroscience and 100% of what is going on is disorder related. I think you are not inclined to tell your stories because it is hard to keep straight the truth from the stated exaggeration you post here. I will give you one thing. In 20 years of studying VP table scraps you seem to have picked up the ability to spin up a story from your fodder in da verd. Trollshonta!

With the personnel and setting you described you are telling us partial truths. You were there as part of an extended study group to do with a particular mental disorder. The only reason for this type of a scenario is this. Mental health MDs don’t do science club study groups with unqualified participants for fun. You are dancing around disclosing this because it hurts your PFAL proselytizing efforts. So you back up 10 yards and troll. See how there are specific questions you are avoiding, while at the same time getting other threads started?

Yeah...really brings out the lo shontas

You seem to always have such great difficulty in explaining your thinking process for the science world and TWI, I get the impression you never had a THINKING process - maybe a process of absorption…your scatterbrained attempts here to insinuate yourself into a respectable position are thinly disguised baloney. And it’s hilarious how you can criticize and condemn the way corps like you were ever in the program. And for that matter, by assuming you saw how the corporation worked from the inside from your non-corps position is like thinking you know how the Titanic works since you’re employed as a cabin boy. On several occasions I’ve heard wierwille state he’d prefer every position to be filled by way corps – and I know why he said that – the way corps – wierwille’s most dedicated followers are the engine and all the major systems that makes the Titanic work. You don’t have a clue on the mentality of the way corps – they are wierwille-clones…mini-wierwilles…I wonder if you idolize wierwille so much – that YOU probably think you and him were on the same page – if only the way corps would simply believe the man of God like you do…you’re quite an armchair-way-corps leader – you know that don’t you? They should award you an honorary way corps name tag . I wonder what your idea of light spots in the ministry were. Having no real responsibility? Not having the pressure of answering to a tyrant like wierwille? Not having to counsel believers sexually molested by wierwille? Were you that clueless about the dark underbelly of TWI and didn’t know how it really works – or was it that you looked the other way? Were you like a frightened child who sensed that Daddy was doing something horrible to your older siblings in the other room? I wonder if you were ever emotionally torn apart after hearing about a sweet, loving believer you knew personally getting marked and avoided…labeled possessed…or on the receiving end of character assassination - - but in the back of your mind you wonder if they may have crossed the man of God…was it some woman who was sexually molested by wierwille and posed a threat because she was now freaked out and unpredictable? ~ ~ ~ ~ I don’t care if you worked the collaterals until it snowed in your pants – your LACK OF UNDERSTANDING that “the Bible interprets itself “ claim is just a bunch of baloney betrays how dimwitted you might be. It's a clear indication you are incapable of logical thinking…you just wasted a lot of your time reviewing nonsense…I wouldn’t brag about that if I were you. It’s like bragging you’re a great statistician because you figured out that people who have more birthdays live longer. ~ ~ ~ ~ you don’t shove your nonsense down anyone’s throat – only because you don’t have enough intellectual force or selling power to compel Grease Spotters to buy your baloney. So, you go the deceitful route of bluffing and regurgitating magnificent lies and wierwille's nonsense.

Did they solve the riddle? Oh, what am I saying? Of course they didn't. They had no one to teach them the solution.