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Holy smokes!! Dude...your girlfriend and I went to different schools together!

I have a girlfriend. She..uhhh.. goes to a different school in another town.

This lunacy isnt new. Jesus Christ day it was the tradition of men, or the tradition of the elders that came from the very unscriptural Babylonian Talmud. Then there were layers of explanations that were passes orally that were just as wrong but treated on par with scripture. The oral traditions were set in place to give a certain intrepretation of scripture that was against actual scripture. Same with wierwille. He was never needed. Mike - you hold the traditions of wierwille above God's Word. They are not God breathed. Some of it's stolen goods and Jesus Christ does not employ thieves or predators in his service. wierwilles works are loaded with rudimentary error. Again -- nothing new to see here. There has never been damage done to scripture, God has made sure it is in tact...no wierwille needed to give his faulty explanation. When people misintrepret scripture, change it like wierwille did in his literals according to usage, or rewrite it like some modern versions, misintrepret a word or two here or there...none of that damages scripture. We are told to study to show ourselves approved! We are told that we need no man to teach us because we have an annointint from the Father and that annointing teaches us all things. We dont need wierwille to teach us anything. His legacy is unfaithful and untrustworthy to this day. My goodness...do have any actual faith in God to keep his own word in tact? How ridicooulous is the claim that scripture was lost or damaged and it took wierwille to piece it all back together by plagairaising others works that were also in error in many places...sheer lunacy. Look at the fruit of wierwille - damaged lives, young women used sexually by clergy and wierwille himself, drunkeness (- its well known he had Drambuie in his night owl coffee cups...Im an alcoholic mike...thats alcoholism...we dont all drink the same but alcoholics are alcoholics...), living lavisahly off donations that were not given to enrich the trustees but thats exactly what was happening, he was mean --his wife said that about him after he passed, he bullied people and ruined their lives cause of some whim he had at the moment..I mean where do I stop? The mans was actions point to lawless corruption and by all RELAIBLE accounts he went to the grave that way. But you wanna tell people that God needed him to repair scripture that had been damaged? I think God has better sense to employ someone to the task that has 0 actual education in mastering Koine Greek...he got his doctorate from a degree mill...why would God use a cheap knock off to supposedly repair his word? His word has never been damaged...you lay folly at Gods feet and call God a liar because scripture cannot be broken. Come out of the delusion mike. I did and the air is great.

What a blessing it would have been if vp had done what you wrote about above. Not only did he not do this, but according to the POP, he did the opposite. If Geer spoke honestly about his conversations with vp shortly before he died, vp criticized the actions of so many, many top leaders and blamed them for what was all "wrong" in twi. Even when he admitted that there were times when he was not successful at something he was doing, it wasn't because of him but because of the lack of "spirituality" of those around him who didn't give him the supported he wanted.

This is the implication. The word takes the place of the absent Christ. What is the Word? YourWalk+YourBelieving+ChristInYou+TheBible = the Word (Mike's definition) How is one to walk? What is your walk supposed to look like? Like victor's. Imitate him. Stand on his shoulders. Let the collaterals be your guide. What is one to believe? Whatever Victor says to believe. Four crucified, crowing cocks, moveable commas, apple butter, pickle jars, cookies.... believe PFAL, the collaterals and the oodles and oodles of error within. What is Christ in you? The power of the law of believing; a rebirth, a new identity dependent on tithing - the sine qua non of Christian identity; "spirit" that one "gets" from systematic formulas and hoop jumping made from the limited thoughts of man; something that can be lost if one is born again, again, because that which is from God is temporal, weak, fallible. Whatever the writings of victor says it is. What is the Bible? According to victor, the Bible is NOT the Word. But with enough deletions and rewritings as directed by victor, it can approach becoming the Word. Read PFAL and the collaterals instead. The Word is the ministry. What is the ministry? Serving up PFAL, IC and the collaterals; programming; conditioning; indoctrination; slavery.

Should we help Mike write up a written request to the Vatican tribunal to get the process going to get VP on the road to sainthood? Oh wait he thinks they are born of seed. Maybe he could just do a survey at twig and his mental groups. If they vote yes he could just declare sainthood right there.

Hardly. Hardly "joy in service." Any one of us, or any believer, should be able to point out significant things and themes in a Bible. But "teaching" is not "service." Teaching is teaching. Or in this case, pushing propaganda. VPW was (supposedly) talking about the joy OF service. I wonder if these teachers were also supposed to clean the place, set out chairs, make the coffee, clean the toilet, etc as well? That would be more "service" than teaching. But really, Mike, the JOY OF SERVICE is in actually helping, doing things, for people. Without the supposed kudos of "teaching" or "look at me" moments. Blessed are the meek and humble, Mike. The ones who just get on quietly doing things in the background. The overlooked ones, the ones who notice something and fix it without making a fuss. The ones who wash dishes, pick things up off the floor, help those who can't walk easily, find food for the hungry, and such like. Please pay attention. Please.

Yeah I see that. So nice to reminisce over how far people have come in the last 5 years. To sum up, Mikey still censors everything potentially negative about VPW and the class and the collaterals. Now there’s a new version of the class in which nothing has changed. Mike in 5 years has not got more open about anything. I can see my own confrontational style challenging logic even back then. And no response for 5 years on it either. Heres a quote from Lifelines for you: “Get comfortable with your ruts you may be in them a long time.” Peace spotters.

Yep, you'd think after 20 years everyone would know what a fraud it is. (Everyone except one person already does know that.)