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You are patently wrong !!!!!!! I think what you’re good at encoding is converting the twisted theology of a megalomaniac-drunken-liar-money-grubbing-plagiarizing-sexual-predator into some kind of obfuscating bull-$hit that you like to push on Grease Spot. Keep your damn mutating toxic folders infested with the inner demons of wierwille to yourself. Without opening a single page of the collaterals I can cite numerous references of wierwille’s fixation and promotion of greed and materialism - because I’ve had that cultic propaganda drilled into my head. Challenging the reader to think bigger for whatever their hearts desired by asking “are you limiting God?” Tempting the reader toward greed and materialism by instructing them to “get clear on what you want in your mind” what do you think - we’re morons? why do you think there was so much disappointment and disillusionment in TWI and why most people only lasted so long - and then left or slowly faded away because wierwille promised so much but his “law of believing” , positive affirmations techniques , and tithing / abundant sharing / law of giving and receiving delivered nothing!

Yeah wasn’t implying that at all. Self-centeredness is not a disease that only affects atheists. Christians and Christian orgs are among the most self centered everywhere. Like Twi who won’t lift a finger to help anyone - Christian, non, etc. Yeah a lot of the Buddhists I know are genuine and helpful to anyone. Im just noting people getting more and more selfish and self centered in society as we move along in general. There are plenty of exceptions.

Suppose for a moment your waitperson plunks a huge bowl of your favorite ice cream in front of you and says, "Enjoy! It's on the house." If you're anything like most people, you enjoy the opportunity. But, now, suppose they add, "This flavor may never be available again." Now you have a choice to make. Do you become saddened at that prospect? Or, do you find a special delight in every spoonful? Maybe you even see it as an opportunity to share a special treat with your dining partner. The choice is up to you. disclaimer: No lactose intolerant posters were harmed in this analogy.

But Mike's the world's foremost authority, succeeding Professor Irwin Corey.

No argument, But the truth of this sexual activity in the Way is even stronger. Abusers in all walks of life crave power over their victims. As my best survivor friend, who is an entertainer told me, they all read from the same script. And that power is not always physical. Mind control in the Way was rampant. This puts much of the activity into the rape and sexual assault categories. It also explains how I, a male, was sexually assaulted by two corps women. They even used the same words VPW used, that I needed to be loosened up. As you would say, this doesn't make adultery and fornication Godly even if they are done consensually to both parties. But such spiritual pressure does not pass for consent. Such is the fruit of the great "promise". Ask any Way survivor.

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It seems to me that every charlatan, every false prophet, every phony guru has at least one thing in common: they all make great claims for themselves to speak for, or to be sent from, God. This, it seems to me, is your sign that they surely DO NOT speak for God. You will know them by their fruit. Period.

Really? This is not what I observe. I see man helping his fellow man all the time. I see compassion demonstrated every day by people who believe in gods and by those who don’t. I think we all need help from each other. I wouldn’t be where I am today without the help of others, and those others wouldn’t be where they are without my help. This is true whether one believes or doesn’t believe in the right or wrong god or in any god at all. Could we as human beings ever have made it out of the savanna without cooperating, helping, giving, caring, protecting each other?