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There is only one story. It may be told differently by different people with different perspectives or different agendas.

He could have said that in the filmed class I saw. I may be conflating that with the Loy lesbian "teaching," to Mike's point. But what is crystal clear to me is the, "I have no proof, it's just a feeling." It's clear in my memory because THAT is what is memorable to me, not some man made private interpretation - those are a dime a dozen and victor's interpretations were as private and as vividly imagined as anyone's. Like the bastard bar mitzvah "teaching," it's not the implausibility of the private interpretation that woke me up from the droning slog of PFAL, it was the citation of "someone told me once, gee, can't remember his name, but it was some guy, boy, if I can ever remember...." This is astonishingly poor scholarship! From a guy who insisted on being called by an academic title he purchased through the mail! It is an incredibly stupid, intellectually and spiritually, thing to say. It goes to his credibility, his integrity, his propensity towards accurate research.

This. When people say "Why didn't you just leave?" or "Why didn't you just do this or that?", this is the part they're not understanding.

The key to one key, is another key. Simulacra

He'd have gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for those meddling TVT's.

Or dualism.

“I think we were willing to brush off his mistakes because we really believed we should keep our focus on God’s Word, not Wierwille’s human errors. However, I know editors who tore out their hair trying to fix Wierwille’s transcribed sermons, making them presentable to print in The Way Magazine and in Way books.“

Thx for the interview links C. They are interesting reads and I appreciate you doing them and sharing them. I personally strongly connected with the feeling of getting my kids out from the influence of TWI for their lives and am thankful they have grown up outside that influence and are free to seek life liberty and the pursuit of happiness unencumbered by the bondage elements from a cult that I was faced with.

Thanks, Charlene! Excellent little interview. Had me laughing out loud at the familiar absurdity of it all. And congratulations on the honor from FAPA. From the interview: I think we were willing to brush off his mistakes because we really believed we should keep our focus on God’s Word, not Wierwille’s human errors. However, I know editors who tore out their hair trying to fix Wierwille’s transcribed sermons, making them presentable to print in The Way Magazine and in Way books. In general, we didn’t want to appear too sophisticated because Wierwille often scoffed at educated people, accusing them of being on ego trips. Dr. (Hello, Irony! I seeee yooouuu.)

In 2017, I was invited to speak to an American Studies class at Leuphana Universität Lüneburg in Germany. Afterwards, the professor, Dr. Maria Moss (also an editor of their American Studies Journal) asked to do a print interview with me. Here's the two-part result: INTERVIEW American Studies Journal. Institute of English Studies and of the Zentraleinrichtung Moderne Sprachen (ZeMoS) at Leuphana Universität Lüneburg, Germany. Escaping Fundamentalism: An Interview with Charlene L. Edge (Part I) | American Studies Blog (asjournal.org) Escaping Fundamentalism: An Interview with Charlene L. Edge (Part II) | American Studies Blog (asjournal.org)