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Love ya babe

For some reason that I can't quite understand, I started smoking about 18 months ago. I had a few this morning, but then... I threw out the rest of the pack... and I threw out the lighter... and I... quit? Yeah. Yeah, dangit, I quit! Who's with me?

But, but, but, hate can keep us so warm at night!!!!

You desperately need to read Tom Robbins, "Fierce Invalids Home from Hot Climates"...especially if you like irritating stupid people I can also highly recommend "Still Life with Woodpecker."

Dooj and Geisha sitting in a tree...K.I.S... oh never mind wrong playground. And Rascal thinks I am sick? Geez ladies. Geisha sure hope you and your husband like crawfish and softshelled crab.

Well now who doesn`t have a sense of humor? FYI, I didn`t call YOU stupid, I called the statement you made saying I didn`t like Grouch Stupid :) Either you were mistaken or you deliberately lied...shrug either way it was not accurate.

"Can we limit our comments to our opinions to the subject at hand rather than why one anothers points or opinions should be invalidated?" So why did you post your additional BS above Rascal? Call it a even - well except that TaeKwonDo always kicks Karate butt - now go back to you regularly scheduled program - and if you want to call me "STUPID" again do it in a PM wench.

Well now that really IS stupid..I LIKE Groucho and enjoy his posts ...lol :) I guess I don`t think much of a teacher of any kind of style that propounds that kind of crap. I have competed in open tournaments as have my kiddoes. The tae kwon do students big dramatic movements are generally able to be countered by the shorter more direct karate techniques...shrug... Either way, The martial arts students around these parts have mutual admiration, respect and understanding of one another and their specific styles, as well as what makes each of them unique and effective. Dooj, lead with my chin or not, I post what I think, and in spite of your numerous assertions of embarrassing myself, it would be less than honest to alter my posts or opinions or style to suit you. Why not let me post my thoughts? Can we limit our comments to our opinions to the subject at hand rather than why one anothers points or opinions should be invalidated?

Geezus WS I was just thinking about an afternoon marguerita and you bring up fig pep? Isn't that like bringing your own turds to the local sports bar?

Heh heh heh - I bet not too many people argue with you

Naw her reputation won't suffer. She really is a nice person in RL...well she was 25 years ago anyway. For all of her occasional Sister Linda Theresa can't we all be friends kind of thing there really is nothing you can do to tarnish her reputation. If there is anyone on GSC who is still clean - it's probably LindaZ. ...now (rubbing hands together with evil grin on face)...what bad things can I say about Linda Z...

:) Rumrunner, just my $1.35 worth. Inflation, ya know...........

Points made and taken Shellon - thank you very much for your input.

Wow I'm heavily struck, here, with how unpredictable can be the human condition and the oft strong desire to be right, to be sure to get the last word in, to be sure to one-up another. Not exactly the vision Pawtucket had, I'm sure, when he said something like "lets tell the other side of the story and maybe have some fun doing it". If someone pi$ses me off and I just can't stand it, I fail to see the good in not standing it so publically; I guess I'll never understand that and I'm glad I don't get it. Caleb, in his youthful "I was just kidding" approach and tone after his original approach of "I'll show up on your stoop"..........I think that those of us that have children that are older than 22 might understand that silliness quicker and yes, he did deserve to have explained to him the better way to frame things here. But my question, then, is whether or not like bahavior isn't happening amongst those that were comfy to tell him straighten up and fly right. The bully on the playground that barges into the new playground, making comments that he later states were "just kidding" then gets to sit back and watch as those he is presumed to have bullied go at each other. I think we too often have no idea of another's intentions, and of course we lack eye contact and body language and general knowledge of someone that is merely known to us on a computer screen. Then I've known of two or more people getting together on the phone or an IM and prod each other against another. "you post this and I'll follow with this" and so it goes. For what? To show someone how tough we are, how much more we know than them, we're big, they're small and by God we are going to make sure they remember it? Sad and our new friend Caleb, bless his heart and pass the peas, sees only the bickering and spitting and why the hell wouldn't he feel comfortable to come back with more of his own goodies. I don't know the man called Caleb but I do understand young people that age and I do understand having connections to people of note and just those two combined make for a powerful mix of "pffffttttt" Is that his intent? I'm not sure I care, but as is the original idea of the forum, too, he has the right to express it and yes, the responsibility to accept the consequences of a strong group of people. I looked at his posts through the lens of a mama and more fun, the mama of a 20 something kid that is forever making statements that she might have to swallow whole in a short time, sometimes all the time. She'll get it and so will Caleb, I pray. I know I did when as I matured and understood and got off my '10 foot tall and bulletproof' ladder. But to go at each other in such a public manner...........nah. Sad. Caleb, say what you need to say, just do heed alot of the posters sage wisdom of caution, whatever that is for you.

Typical of you Rascal - always insulting something you know nothing of. I can't believe how insulting you get all the time. I can't believe anyone actually lets you speak in front of them. Frankly your vitriol and venom astounds me - although I confess I also find your bitterness somewhat entertaining at times. Ignorance? My daughter has studied TaeKwonDo for 17 years under a Korean Master and currently participates on the UCSD competitive team. In San Diego martial arts of all kinds are a big deal since there are so many Asian immigrants with varying disciplines. At the San Diego All County competition which is between students followed by a single day of just the masters, the Karate "followers" are held in the lowest esteem...for the very reasons I posted. So my facts which I have seen for years now are what you claim to be ignorance. You know nothing about my actual life in San Diego - yet you are the one who presumes to be able to accurately judge ignorance from experience and then pronounce your findings... No Rascal - you are the ignorant one to always use harsh language when you don't have all of the facts - you are ignorant to presume that only your experiences count. Why don't you come on out and take part in the San Diego All County competition and see for yourself whether my post was accurate or not? I'll anxiously await your hitting the "minus" button on this post since you clearly have a personal vendetta against anything Groucho or I post. Now unless you post more of your bitter bile against me I'll leave this thread to you and your greater knowledge of the universe. Yo!!! Caleb - come on back - I'd like to have a chat with you - casual however as I am no longer religious - just curious about SOWERS though.

When I decide to quit drinking, I'll ignore the Mike threads in their entirety. :)-->

Raf, You started smoking 18 months ago? Man, that is soooooo atypical. That's not the kind of thing you're wanting to hear, I know but inquiring minds want to know... how did that happen?? sudo P.S. I quit smoking cold turkey after having picked up the habit while in TWI.. seems like everyone smoked and I got to thinking I was invincible because of my BELIEVING! Ha! Anyways.. it ain't that hard. These folks coming out and saying nicotine is the most addictive substance known are full of it, IMO!!

Maybe too soon. But I'm counting on all of you to keep the pressure on!