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I never participated in it, but I always thought it sounded like "Outward Bound", which has been measurably more successful in achieving it's participant's goals.

Happy Birthday mister! Treat yourself to a day to dream, a day to grow, and a day to realize just how many people you have touched in your life. May today be a day filled with your favorite tunes. :drink::drink::drink::drink: (All those guys are on a liquid diet too)

you're a poopyhead, Rum :B) We lived in VA at the time, and were busy getting ready for a rotation to AK the next month. The talk of it possibly being a communist thing made our move a little more intimidating. All I knew about Alaska was that some part of it was 20 miles from Russia. A few months after we got there, the big Alaska earthquake hit. My first thought as the ground shook and rolled on that army base, was that we were under attack by the guys that shot Kennedy. Thanks Paw for the thread.

There ya go George, summing it up in one sentence for us. This has been a good discussion, and can be applied to how we interact with different people. Having said that, a person who fits the description in the very first post, does have some voice here in the blogs, and I have seen them admit they needed other outlets other than JUST what GSC has to offer anyway. That fits in well to George's "not all things to all men".

hey wait.....those are MY drinks, not Dad's

well you can't order direct from the site bookstore online, you have to call or write to place an order. What kind of worldwide presence is that? They do not even list the prices except for the WayRag. Let the buyer beware.

Twinky- sorry if I mislead with my wording. I was only 10 when it went up, living in Heidelberg, so I have few remembrances of the reactions at the time. I know my parents had a friend who was a professor at the University and she was quite upset about being cut off from ready access to relatives. My mother cried when it came down and said "Now Dr. Leben will be thrilled". My information about what it was like comes from a friend (Jurgen) I visited in 2006 near Callenberg. We spoke for an hour about what it was like, but I felt like I was intruding. He seemed really to want to forget those times. It might have been our difficulty in communicating (the only English he knew amounted to the word "ok". He grew up speaking German and Russian, and my german is mainly highschool era booklearning) but I think not. We spent 4 days together in eastern Germany while he showed us the area where my ancestry hails from. It was he who seemed to have more than a little pride that he had not spoken Russian in 10 years. He was quite happy to be united with the rest of Germany. Another friend (a sort of relative ancestrally back in the 1700s) did me a huge favor 10 years ago. I had written on a genealogy board that I would like to have pictures of the Grumbach area (southeast of Dresden) to show my father before he passed away. This gentleman responded and took several rolls of film which he developed and sent to me. When I pleaded with him to let me pay him, his response was "no, no, no. for so many years people in the east sent us packages of hope. I am very happy to finally be able to repay the kindness". I sent him a Denver Broncos hat anyway. The US west is still a thing of awe to them. They insisted on taking me to the Karl May house. (google it :) )

uhhhhhyup, will certainly put that on my bucket list.

Calling Dr. Aar, calling Dr. Aar....Dr. Aar please pickup your page.

wasn't an American fag a cigarette?

Did you read the comments on the bottom of the page at that link? read the print when you take advantage of popup discount offers.

Sorry Leafy, I have no recollection of the Twig Hopper or any of the motorcycles being at Gunnison. That doesn't mean it never made the trip, only that I do not recall it. I was probably over at the corrals or chinking logs....or fishing. Actually 79 seems early for the bike to be there, and your description of standing near a highway sounds more like Colo Spgs. There is no "highway" near Camp Gunnison, or anywhere near the wonderful town of Gunnison.

my my, hope your day is wonderful. Happy Birthday, from HAP-e

you mean you don't feel the love?

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Penworks, thanks again for posting this. I too get tired of hearing people laud those times as so fun filled, ever forgetting the errors on which it was based. The sad thing to me is they continue in those errors, refusing to correct them in their own lives. Nothing has changed for them, nothing has imnproved, and they live forever in Egypt (De- Nile). Your words were (there) and are (here) a refreshing inspiration.

amen, Ron http://www.peterpaulandmary.com/

Much of the time I wonder whether the alive are alive.

Ron- sorry that happened to you. Maybe this will help if you can get to that page. http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form=419_scam Is a FB page set up for you to report this scam and to resecure your account. I hope it will work for you. Do you still have access to the email account you registered for FB with? also, this page might help: http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=107720572130 If you can't access it, let me know and I will copy and send it direct to you.

Roy- I hope you watch shows other than Fox now and then. It is amazing the different ideas that are on other networks.

I built a Tesla coil in junior high. that sucker could send a spark 3 feet. But I thought the correct spelling of his first name was Nikola but 1964 was a long time ago and my memory might have been zapped by the 250 kv at (if I recall correctly) .01 ma.

well, if a potential employer did a background check on him, found the zoom info page then checked out his references at greasespot.com, wellllllllll..........could be an interesting job interview.

Hmmm next Saturday would be a good day to find a good radio show commemorating that day in music history. I wonder if anyone knows a good link?