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"I don't worship anything." "yes you do. You worship yourSELF." Tell me, in what universe, how is that NOT rude?

You know, this is precisely what I was talking about. It's perfectly fine for a religious a-hole to tell us we worship "orselves," but let me say he has an imaginary friend, or that his assertion is both obnoxious and rude, and watch what happens. "Hey, that's my religious belief. You can't insult me like that." Yes I can. You're a piece of garbage for telling OTHER people what they worship or don't. GARBAGE. That's what crappy people do.

That's rude. And stupid. Just letting you know. Just because you have an imaginary friend doesn't mean I worship myself in his place.

"I lean towards the belief that everyone worships/serves one sort of god or another, regardless of who or what they call it, even if it appears to be nothing more than themselves." Yeah, this isn't true. This is what religious people tell themselves to project their behavior onto those who do not share their beliefs. The problem becomes, they expand the definition of "worship" beyond sensible meaning, then accuse non-worshippers of idolatry because they put some other priority above the worship of a god. So if I put "earning a living" above "God," then I worship work or money. I mean, FINE, if you want to torture the definition of the word "worship." People generally don't worship themselves (certain high profile exceptions notwithstanding). Why is it so hard to accept the notion that some people don't "worship" anything? That you can admire something without worshiping it. That something can be a priority in your life without being a "god" to you? It reminds me of a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon. Rather than butcher it, I'm going to find it... The point being, "off" is not a TV channel. I do a lot of things. None of them involve worship, unless you define it out of existence.

I was just discussing this topic with a life time & lifelong aethist whose stance was basically he could not lower himself to worshipping let alone loving a mass murder such as he thinks our Lord is/was. He sited several events (all in the old testament)..as my position on this is simply that God deals differently with the non-believer, now, than he did before Jesus & the sacrafice on the cross.. I know "God doesn't change"..but with a better covanant, could it be that he deals with people differently now in this administration? I used the analogy of a mother bear & her cubs & no matter what it took (mass murder) that bear would fight to the death to protect what is her's..I believe it is the same with God...his chosen people. though stubborn & in unbelief at times...were mightily protected by God wiping out their enemies (via men typpically) although the parting of the Red sea was not man initiated..but God "doing his thing" My point is..you don't see mass murder in the New Covanant..Jesus taught love and putting down the sword.quite a different & BETTER covanant..as God now deals with us as sons (not so much as servants) and with the "future believer" he makes quite an effort thru his sons & daughters on the planet to give them signs such as healings..to sway them out of the dark side.. Don't know if any of you ever watch "Thomas Fischer" on you tube & all the street healings going on..but its obvious that these different mockers who hate God & then get an instantaneous healing..once ministered to..that the healing alone might help them draw near to the Lord & go after God!! The bible does predict that in the last days mighty signs would be on the earth..."signs miracles & wonders" I think is the way TWI coined it..it does open another can of worms..which might make a fun topic..can we have faith for another person..? VP said no..& most got talked out of ministering UNTIL that person would eventually choose to believe...I'm convince that having faith for another is the foundation for things like street healings that are all over youtube....you may say..its all fake, & yet I skyped Tom & he assurred me its the real deal..they video tape the healings & the how of approaching a "limping person" or someone in a wheelchair..a fun entertainment if nothing else as I hope a few of you do check it out!!

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