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Absolutely! Looks like even the very same diagrams!!! The only person I'd be able eto stomach listening to is the black guy. He sounds enthusiastic and as if he has actually "made the word his own" and doesn't parrot word for word exactly what has been said since PFAL was first recorded. Nothing tempts me to consider for a millisecond undergoing this class ever again. But remember. "The word of God is the will of God." Okay? Well, the word is all about ACTIONS. Love God, and show it by doing things. Being kind to people. Being giving, being kind and compassionate. Forgiving one another. Looking out for the needs of others, and selflessly tending those needs. Getting out there and mixing with all sorts of people - good, bad, low in status or high in status. Absolutely none of "the will of God" is about sitting in a fancy ivory tower, or even a fancy auditorium, and listening and scribbling notes to oneself. Even less about isolating oneself to only hang out with others just like you.

That’s a tremendous quote by Dacher – thanks for sharing, Rocky! It made me think of a couple of things. 1. The bigger they are the harder they fall…which is a familiar idiom which emphasizes that the more important or powerful a person is, the more difficult it is for them when they lose their power or importance From: Cambridge Dictionary org: bigger they are the harder they fall 2. the God Complex. A god complex is an unshakable belief characterized by consistently inflated feelings of personal ability, privilege, or infallibility. A person with a god complex may refuse to admit the possibility of their error or failure, even in the face of irrefutable evidence, intractable problems or difficult or impossible tasks. The person is also highly dogmatic in their views, meaning the person speaks of their personal opinions as though they were unquestionably correct. Someone with a god complex may exhibit no regard for the conventions and demands of society and may request special consideration or privileges. God complex is not a clinical term nor diagnosable disorder and does not appear in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). The recognized diagnostic name for the behaviors associated with a God complex is narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). A God complex may also be associated with mania or a superiority complex. From Wiki – God complex ~ ~ ~ ~ and from Mind Power Hub Do most narcissists have a god complex? You wouldn’t be far off if you thought god complexes sounded a lot like narcissism. They’re pretty close, but they’re not identical. “When people talk about a god complex, they’re usually talking about someone who has a narcissistic personality disorder,” Blaylock-Johnson adds. They may, however, be without a formal diagnosis. A god complex isn’t a diagnosable disorder (not classified in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM-5). Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is still a thing. A god complex is virtually always present in people with NPD, although a god complex isn’t always present in those who don’t have NPD. However, there is a lot of overlap, especially with grandiose narcissism. It is a kind of narcissism, according to psychologist Perpetua Neo, DClinPsy, in which “someone’s narcissistic qualities—entitlement, braggadocio, and self-obsession—are publicly shown, frequently at the cost of others.” It’s equivalent to having a god complex. From: Mind Power Hub: 11 tips to spot someone with a God complex I left TWI back in ’86 - amidst the vying for power by top leadership and the general air of malaise that seemed to have touched everyone after wierwille had passed away... I still remember a crystal-clear moment of serious doubt starting to form while I was at my last Rock – how could all this happen if we had more of the “rightly-divided Word” than any other group? It wasn’t just that question – it was like a cluster bomb of questions and doubts that exploded in my head! And some of those questions and doubts would start a chain reaction…spreading more bad feelings…bringing up old red flags I had dismissed. My pop-psychology viewpoint is that the way to escape the rabbit hole depends on how far you went down the hole...you've got to retrace your steps...what sold you on this or that? for some it can be a long and arduous task...for those born into TWI - I don't know what to tell you - that's a different animal. Your parents dragged you down the rabbit hole. The rabbit hole is the only thing you know...sorry don't mean to stray way off topic - but those born into a cult will probably have a compound problem of analyzing the Achilles heel of their parents AND the cult-leader. Initially there was a very strong sense of disappointment from realizing Craig was not wierwille…and then more depressing thoughts coming after that – what about my corps training? It was chock-full of PFAL – the very essence of wierwille. I remember some of my corps brothers saying when they get to their corps assignments, they would run PFAL classes like crazy…and there was a sentiment that would solve everything. But there was no denying this feeling of frustration. I couldn’t shake it off…it would take a couple of years after I left to sort things out – and realize my disillusionment was from wierwille, Craig, TWI…the way corps program…and of course PFAL failing to fulfill any of the declared goals. And the more I would reflect on my 12 years of involvement the more I recognized the inconsistencies between the actions of wierwille and Craig and the ideals they supposedly represent. what a surprise of weaknesses in supposedly strong…powerful…charismatic cult-leaders - – through a series of events you unexpectedly discover they are phonies…when you take off the PFAL-blinders you see the cult-leaders for what they are – hot air balloons of god complex inflated to the max. The downfall…their undoing is their loss of power to manipulate me…their loss of super-apostle stature to impress me…It’s like the story of the Wizard of Oz. The Great Oz’s cover was blown when little Toto pulled back the curtain…Toto is to the Great Wizard of Oz what Grease Spot Café is to wierwille, Craig, TWI and offshoots.

I left in 1986 and stumbled onto Waydale around 1999 perhaps. I spoke to Paul Allen one time, too. He was calmly furious at twi and determined to push them as far as he could. IMO, it was because the Allens filed suit that lcm was "fired?" as Prez and then left HQ. It was because of Waydale and the Allen's fearless approach to those bullies that this happened. LCM was forced out of the ranks. Perhaps advice from twi's lawyers to put the abuser as far away from the Corporation as possible ushered that departure forward. Later donna divorced him. I scoured Waydale a lot and posted there, too. They took documents and other info from HQ and posted it online. For example, Waydale posted audio clips of lcm's rants from SNS teachings on all he hated, homosexuals and seed boyz and all that crap, and posted them. Having left in 1986 I was stunned at what was going on, and by how much tighter the leash had been tightened up there. From Waydale I learned about the command to tithe and the review of 1040's to check income and enforce tithing. I learned Corpse were full time per lcm. I learned that everyone within a 200 mile radius, was it??, had to attend one SNS every month because the vpw wow auditorium was not getting filled too much. I learned I was DFAC, hahaha. And there is more. The links in this post are good, and even Waydale is linked in this site. For me, Waydale was a great site. And, the info they had was transferred here, a lot of it, before they shut down per the settlement. I think they only had a week or so to make that transition. Greasespot is the direct descendant of Waydale. I thank the Allens for what they did. In all sincerity, I do believe that TWI would still be in a much better position with supporters and finances had Waydale not come along. It was also the first major site that Ex- way like me could go and touch base see some of our Brothers and Sister's from back then using Friend Finder. Before that there was really no where to go.