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The real scary part of this.. some who were and are in that organization agreed and agree with him.. that he was ENTITLED. It was a service which was OWED. Well, mog to the whole world and all.. deserve a little "compensation" do you not? loy sits in the chair right next to vic.. and a half dozen more I'm aware of..
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see.. time after time, those he worked over either were either falsely counselled to just forget it and chalk it up to the thought that "after all, he is da mog.." or shipped off into the night, labeled as possessed or worse.. all the while, he just sat.. waiting for unsuspecting, fresh meat to walk in his lair.. the ministry, if not the world "owed" it to him.. he was da mogster after all.. I call it predator entitlement.. perpetrator entitlement. "predator" is too kind of a term. A lion hardly hunts for sport..
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If you want instant gratification, don't go to college.. buy a lottery ticket. Of course, not very many will be instantly gratified..
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Perpeptual? I haven't seen a single case of twi forking out some kind of retribution.. or the same bunch of greasespotters going back for seconds.. Nor any official admittance or denial of wrongdoing by twi. Other than "we inform OUR people about all the soup and nuts.." and "don't believe everything you read on the internet.." As long as "we" are here.. "they" will be desperately AFRAID of any kind of public debate.. I think to be blinded by vic's "greatness".. attribute little lasting significance to his horrors.. is a form of PERPETRATOR entitlement. "yeah, he may have been a little 'mean' at times.. but all in all, it was a good experience.." what made HIM feel so "entitled".. as to rape, rob, and in some people's point of view, deceive his own "flock"?
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One thought.. who would name their hurricane Humberto? Sounds more like a proper name for a spaghetti sauce.. "We'll have noodles all over the Atlantic Seaboard.."
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nobody wants an encore? Tough crowd.. sheesh.
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Establishes and maintains a positive attitude. No real negatives in life really shook me up before da class. I'd already looked death in the eye and kept at least part of my marbles.. makes life meaningfull My life today is even more meaningful, without being under the auspices of pfal, twi et al.. Overcomes worry and fear A friend demonstrated this. He would pass cars through a blind corner, claiming he didn't have to fear because he was doing it by revelation.. Promotes prosperity and health works pretty well when a person is young.. Explains apparent bible contradictions I really didn't care. Hadn't studied the contradictions da "teacher" was referring to to begin with.. Developes more harmony in the home I had no home at the time. Don't know how something can give more harmony to something one does not have to begin with.. Enables you to seperate truth from error if it means to define twi dogma as "truth", and everything else as "error", yeah, it fit the bill.. Disciplines the mind by believing if it means to convince oneself that one is in New York harbor, when one is actually somewhere on the delta in New Orleans, regardless of all evidence otherwise, yep, it could be true.. Teaches how to pray effectively. Changed in later cards to "Teaches how to pray EFFECTUALLY" i.e. how to GET the DESIRED results. Nope.. there is only one prayer I've prayed in over forty years that would even begin to be close to this kind of claim. Maybe I'll share it sometime.. I think I have on one post a long time ago.
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I saw an interview with Robert Plant. The interviewer was saying how great they were, etc.. Plant replied with something like "we were a bunch of young punks who stole the blues.." even more funny.. the band didn't think "Stairway to Heaven" would amount to much..
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The "man song" (Ms. Baxter, forgive me.. ) I know that I'm confused.. First I'm happy, then I'm blue.. I don't think that I have changed to the list I find I'm chained.. but you look at me and say who the h*ll are you? I'm a dad, I'm a cad, I really think I'm going mad Yesterday I was a hero, today I find I'm zero.. yesterday I was quite neat, now today I'm just chopped meat.. in June I'm over the hill but in July I fit the bill..
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Maybe it is a question not to ask.. I think it's like trying to hold down a cube of Jello in a vise.. They are ALWAYS what they are on the list, unless they aren't what's on the list on that particular day, but that little fact itself is an item on the list..
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THAT is my whole point. :) You ask.. you make the list, check it twice.. and low and behold.. the list incarnate waltzes through the door.. "naw, not what I wanted.." The wonderful lady in my life right now.. we're as different as day and night. maybe people need a different kind of list. 1. Not an axe murderer.. 2. Alive.. 3. ....
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did you ever hear wierwille speaking in tongues and/or interpret ?
Ham replied to excathedra's topic in About The Way
That explains a few things.. they must have been victims of improper spelling. It's supposed to be Olde English, not Old English. Because of the mix up, they must have guzzled down a couple of these at the excellor's sessions instead.. it'd explain perfectly why they would only be able to spit out only three or four words over and over again.. -
If it was sooo good there.. how come so many left with such a sour taste in their mouths.. seems those who were actually happy when they were there were asked to leave.
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Yeah. I think they call it "cherry picking". Sure.. let's do something flashy, like manifestations.. something controversial, or exciting. Well, leave the drab stuff like an exaustive analysis of Romans to corps night or something.. obvious he ignored the scriptures regarding adultery. Too "drab", "boring", or "legalistic" for his taste, perhaps?
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Maybe.. if it soured a person's stomach enough.. they'd never want to eat there again.. Kinda like my psych professor last year. He ate something really really bad at taco schmell. Was sick for about two weeks.. he will never go back. Even if he's starving, and it's the only game in town. A friend asks me.. "how ya getting your spiritual food?" Trouble is.. most of the places that claim to have the answers.. smell too much like the old religion..
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Technically, didn't he "lift" it from Arius? Seems it was a long abandoned doctrine left behind in the 300's.. Makes me wonder, if the church held fast to Arian doctrine, perhaps we'd see a little yellow book published by der vey titled "Jesus Christ IS God"..
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did you ever hear wierwille speaking in tongues and/or interpret ?
Ham replied to excathedra's topic in About The Way
I thought it was furniture polish.. -
did you ever hear wierwille speaking in tongues and/or interpret ?
Ham replied to excathedra's topic in About The Way
hmm.. have I talked to angels lately.. only one here I am aware of.. :) Speaking of guttural tongues.. oooh eeee. ooooh, eeeee. oooh, eeee, oooh. after a few "excellor's" sessions.. "ooh, eee, oooh ah ah, ..." sowy.. -
DO YOU THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE DIRTY BATHWATER?
Ham replied to rosestoyou's topic in About The Way
Ah. Now it makes sense. It doesn't necessarily start as crap.. but as it slowly evolves.. it turns into crap.. :) Sometimes.. I think I'm the biggest practitioner as a fellow of a simple spirituality.. actually get arrogant enough sometimes to think I know less than everybody else.. -
DO YOU THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE DIRTY BATHWATER?
Ham replied to rosestoyou's topic in About The Way
I dunno. You may lift the lid.. find the little Sani-Flush man in his little boat.. but I don't think he's exactly trolling for babies.. -
DO YOU THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE DIRTY BATHWATER?
Ham replied to rosestoyou's topic in About The Way
well.. I aim to please. Or at least to entertain.. -
DO YOU THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE DIRTY BATHWATER?
Ham replied to rosestoyou's topic in About The Way
I dunno.. with all the talk about babies, bathwater.. maybe some have let unqualified individuals define exactly what is the baby.. if it's brown and tubular in shape, whether it floats or not, it's not very likely to be a baby.. I don't think the "bathwater" is exactly bathwater, either.. -
did you ever hear wierwille speaking in tongues and/or interpret ?
Ham replied to excathedra's topic in About The Way
If the class instructor got the reference.. he'd probably be trying to cast "spirits" out of the poor guy..