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I dunno.. makes sense to me. Look at his track record.. he published the little are the dead alive now book.. that didn't get a whole heck of a lot of attention.. but it was enough at the time to foster an "us vs. them" mentality. Kept inquiring minds off of his preclivities.. Then JCING. That was VERY successful in giving da "faithful" yet another iconoclastic statement to circle the wagons around.. then the advanced classes. Oh yes.. noah castrated by his son.. the u.s. being taken over by "them".. always something out there.. kept us so busy, that few slowed down enough to look what was in their midst.. loy took it even further. The "homo is da enemey, the homo is among us.." then "debt is da enemy, debt is among us.." even.. "da pet is our enemy, da pet is among us.." one ridiculous doctrine and purge after another.. Oh yes. I think if vic lived on another twenty years, without too much dementia, we'd have seen one "extraordinary" biblical discovery after another..

Really.. if you substituted "the loyster" for "victor" in Groucho's little "fellowship".. I don't see any embellishment. I remember how "they" praised loy's name.. the bringer of new light.. slayer of debils.. mark and avoider of da unfaithful.. worthy of our praise and support.. and it got worse after I left.. yep.. loy.. the purger of homos.. god's vengeance on those in debt, and "weak"..

Interesting that this one is the last on the list.. Maybe putting on a charismatic presentation to cover up character flaws isn't "all it's cracked up to be."..

I remember the hype about it.. the people in charge were supposed to be "those iin da household, who we can trust.." Didn't the guy who ran it disappear into the night one foggy evening or something?

Well, officially, I disavow all knowledge of the actions of my so called "cousins"

I dunno. I didn't see a whole heck of a lot of embellishment here.. it was almost that when I left in 96.

What I can't understand.. are the thought processes that conclude "well, he got one on the list right.." I don't think the lifestyle described here is exactly a multiple choice exam, where one picks one from the list as the answer..

Here's some I used on someone being just a little too belligerent: "Can you see the door?" "well.. yes.." "it's in your best interests to be on the other side of it.." true story.. well.. it worked.. though the other poor rational people involved thought I was being a little too generous..

sowy.. I have to do something to amuse myself.. but feel free to check back on ocassion, as the greasespot turns, and we find out where Waldo, ahem, I mean *mr* gear really is, in this great world of ours..

*as "mr" gear rounds the corner, he watches helplessly as a rusty 1971 toyota pulls into the front parking spot, a mere fifteen feet ahead of him* *arrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhh!#@^&*!@"

Sooooo.. I wonder where *mr* gear is this afternoon.. hmmm. could be.. possible. Perhaps he is on his forty eight trip around the parking lot at Wally Mart, "believing" for a front parking spot..

There are only two contexts I can think of.. 1. The "law" "worked(?)" 2. The "law" did not. Interesting thread. Close to eighty pages of pie in the sky on the "big things" thread, how "blessed" people were.. and disclaimers.. I could hardly get people to squeak out three on my thread, asking for some practical, substantial, verifiable "results" of da class.. You get the front parking spot at Wally mart maybe fifty times in a row or so.. (and not when the store is closed, or at five in the morning ) and maybe we can talk about "the magic of believing".. So I was richly rewarded for my believing and faithfulness, and giving of 15 or more percent.. a front spot at Wally Mart, woo hooo! What about the other 379 times I had to park in the back of the lot? must've not been "believing"..

Yeah.. except for those at the top of the pyramid scheme..

Hey.. I walked out of Atlantic City forty bucks ahead. The poor guy with me though.. about seventy behind..

I thought it was "OK" to pray for "carloads of money".. :) Nothing like a shortcut to make up for the lack of good, hard, work.. I'm "believing" for a Master's degree in mathematics. Think if I pray hard enough.. tithe, or give fifteen or twenty percent, I should have it, in about three more years.. with some hard work. kinda like the Beverly Hillbillies. I remember Granny's "miracle cure" for the common cold. Had docs coming from all over to investigate it.. Jed said something like "yeah it's a miracle.. you take Granny's concoction and inside of six weeks you'll start to feel like a spring chicken.."

Yep.. and a person can "believe" they are in New York City when they are actually in Boston Harbor, too. Some people call it "delusional thinking".

Health, healing.. GUARANTEED.. money.. prosperity.. harmony in the home.. I think the problem with "what's available" is that it guarantees that if one pushes the correct levers, the results are theirs no questions asked. That was the whole point of der law of believing was it not? "works for saint and sinner alike.." I think that the practical reality is that what is "available" to one is not necessarily "available" to another..

Fruit.. hmm. reminds me of an old fairy tale.. "cmere, little girl.. here's a nice shiny red apple for you.."

Hmm. Well.. if he was such a good tree.. how come I've been pulling thistles out of my miserable hide for the last decade or so..

Horror of horrors.. I'm suprised and agast.. he actually documented his source here.. I guess miracles do abound..

A good friend of mine has a little motto.. a house isn't quite the same without a black cat.. :) The last black cat he had was a celebrity. People would call from Virginia, Florida.. they wouldn't say "how ya doing".. they'd say.. "how's the cat?" true story. Weird, I know.. but this cat was one soul that I was priviledged to be acquainted with..

Naw.. Meerkats are a little too "cultish" for my taste.. too daggone territorial and group think.. Lemurs.. lemurs.. naw.. they'd follow vic off the end of the world..

I'd have to be reincarnated as a marmot or something..

glad somebody can be optimistic about everything..