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I agree, loy took it to extremes. loy raised up at least one corps that I know of to do this specifically though. "If you want to be CORPS, you can't be afraid of breaking a few HEADS". This sounds kinda right with vic's accent..

As I was sitting before almighty mr. "never mix my bread and vegetables", he "boldly" proclaimed, "if I were you, I'd spill your guts. Tell me what your problem is.." Hmm.. did I forget to shower that morning? Brush my teeth.. lessee. At that point I figured it out, that I was dealing with lunatics. But what was he fishing for.. As one of the "new guys", he had better start getting "results". Of course, to have results, you must find some problems to solve, and then of course, solve them. How many of us were force fed problems, often that we did not have, then to undergo radical "treatment" to justify these sycophant's existence.. I think the miserable sob had to fulfill a quota, and show a certain number of skins of slain debils to justify his position, if not employment in der vey. There is a phrase in my head, but I don't know where it is coming from. Maybe it's coming from the ether somewhere.. "If you want to be CORPS, you can't be afraid of breaking a few heads". I wonder if anybody else has heard this.. I don't think loy would be as stupid to put this kind of mandate in writing.

With those kind of "results", I am sure loy would have promoted mr. "I never mix my bread and vegetables". Probably to the cabinet level.. field promotion, right on the spot. hmmm. I wonder.. seems that those who "proved themselves" able to supposedly "smoke out" this or that, were richly rewarded. maybe there were a few selfish motives that motivated them to look for devils under every rock.

True. I don't think I had any decent "leadership" on the limb level, until Ra*ph D. Maybe I should try another pole, rate your leadership, when you got involved with der vey. First limb coordinator seemed kinda ok, until I got close enough to see the color of his skin. Turned out to be a goon. I wonder how he feels now. I hope some humanity returned to him after he left der vey. My last conversation with "Mr." Ch*lar, he found it absolutely INCREDULOUS that I wouldn't tow the line, and support and stand with loy his almighty "god". "so you left of your own accord.." I told him what leadership did to the very people he knew here. I could tell it made an impression, but obviously it did not wake him up. Yep.. one "session" of confrontation with a LUNATIC gone REAL wrong, and I quietly walked off. "soo, spill your guts.." I could have made up a bunch of crap about myself and stayed. I know some people did. Pretend I had spirits, or say I was a homo or something with impassioned pleas for "help". They were on a witch hunt, why not give them what they want? If I had to do it over.. I'd take a bunch of catsup, feathers, and green gelatin to the next "reproof" session.. act like I was having a seizure or something.. there'd be a cloud of "blood", feathers, green "ectoplasm".. Naw, the guy would probably have a heart attack..

The only thing I'll say, I've seen a few things lately that suggest that free will isn't quite the reality that I was told that it was.. I will provide no details. People might really think the squirrel went over the deep end.. Honestly, I think freedom of will plays more in the confines of the small choices of life.

I used to really value "free will", now I am not so sure.. I think I have it, or at least the illusion of it.. :)

Now you done and gone it. "They" are going to start calling us Druids.. Actually it is a good point. But I've found that point of balance in the middle of "hell" sometimes.

:) Only for the little devils who disguise themselves in a cloak of righteousness. Maybe it depends on your point of view. I admire squirrels, even feed them.. my friend, whose car engine was found to be stuffed with acorns, doesn't find them quite as cute..

I looked at the advertisement. it is an e-book exclusively. No prints in existence. The adobe "settings".. NO COPYING. NO PRINTING.. I don't know why I would want to anyway.. Part of the advertisement: http://www.diesel-ebooks.com/cgi-bin/item/...-God-eBook.html Yeah.. suprised. Unless they've heard the same droll stuff ten kazillion times like some of us.CES version: "don't blame God". Same basic doctrine, but you can actually buy a paper copy if for some reason you may want to. I wonder who wrote this short "review". So full of wayisms. Combines the ideas from Genesis to Revelation, or in other words, all of the "administrations" Maybe someone else can remember.. but what was it.. something in der vey about only an ordained by the almighty teacher or apostle were the only ones qualified to do this with any real accuracy or efficiency.. offering something to "suprise" christians.. hmm.

Yeah.. what I wonder, how in the world did he even get a book published.. well, some people will do almost ANYTHING for money I suppose. "oh, you say you were a minister. Where did you serve?" "ummm, somewhere.."

It would make sense to me if he just came on here, apologized for all the nonsense, took a few beatings, and got it over with. A lot of the people he messed with are his age.. so the problems aren't going to just go away in a timely fashion. I'll bet he prayed for it all to just go away. I would even venture further to say he likely invoked old way curses, trying to toss us to the devils.. These jokers may be good actors.. why can't they even ACT like they're sorry.. But noooo. Even those who get on here just drive by and say "yep I'm still God, buy my book.." Maybe panarello is more cunning than you think. I think he's seen what happened to JL here..

I wish it were that simple. Most of us here still have scars, if not wounds.

That's kind of what I thought.. fishing. I had all kinds of alarms going off at the time.

I really wish I wasn't. godam bitter "victory" if you want to call it that. Sadly, it's only for ME most of the time.. Somehow in all of this, I have found the path the lord wants me on. I heard a speech at one of my daughter's graduation ceremonies.. the world is on fire. It's been on fire, for as long as it's been in existence.. "welcome friend, to a world on fire.." what are you going to do.. :)

Yeah.. I question how many time you have to confront these I*()*(&'s, before you have to just leave a standing invitiation. "When you get your **_* together, call me.." ah, the response, "I've got a nice book.." Even 17 grand or so a year to support the contiunation of their efforts, is way too much. Something I read in the gospel says something like if you have an offering, and a problem with your brother, you'd better take care of your brother before thinking about presenting some kind of offering. Well, it's ONLY the words of Jesus. Why should we worry about something so trite..

Heh heh. I would agree. The same intellect that they require to really run things often tend to be their undoing. Same thing happened in China a few years ago. They chose to put down "the enemy", which in my opinion was their true friend. Now it makes sense why OLD rosie demanded a sign out sheet for who happened to have a need to go to the bathroom.. gotta keep an eye on the "enemy" you know..

I really think that most of us here are "at peace". We've left these numbnuts an open invitation.. those who truly ARE numbnuts have chosen not to accept the gracious offer. So.. they are "marked". If you think I haven't "moved on", you don't know me.

what was it, 22nd, or 26th corps.. I think that you ("Mr." Che*ar_) are a few years younger than I. Go back to school.. or whatever, there is still time. I foresse the days of sycophants ending in rather short order. What do you want to be.. I forgive you for the advances that you made to my now ex.. I cannot offer her forgiveness, you'll have to reach her somehow. Life is so messy. Let's see YOU clean it up. It is not so bad, I've done a heck of a lot of cleaning..

"Mr." Che*ar once told me that I was "the most intelligent person I have ever met".. I personally thought if that was the case, I feel sorry for you.. but. OK.. you think I am so smart, here is what I think.. "Leave The Way". Take your family, if you still have one, and RUN. Go back to window washing.. or whatever.. Your dad, if he is still alive, will STILL help. No kidding. You have far more support than you think you have..

Paw, if you pull this thread off the site, I'll be really really disapointed. :) So he just publishes a book.. as if that is going to fix anything. Same thing, rub some holy flesh on something nasty trying to make nasty holy.. Larry, if you have a SHRED of decency, you'll set this straight. If you didn't read, she already DID.

The old man is dead, long live the old man.. these "men" are nothing. We begged.. we desired.. we.. bargained.. we competed.. we longed for this existence. and, once we had it, we tried to figure a way out of it. an escape. sorry, that is as poetic as I can "wax" at the moment..

I think you may have left whatever "it" was for education for a good reason. I would LOVe to teach math. Or even just tutor. In a weird kinda way, I think I got back on the bus.. :)

The physical chemistry is math based. Lots of stuff about modeling reactions with differential equations and such. I think I will like it. If I only had three or four more lifetimes.. But that is not part of the agreement.. oh well. :)

just general chemistry. I have a major in math, a minor in chemistry. If I was rich, I would major in chemistry, math and physics and see where it all took me. I've had everything up to Organic I and II. The university I transferred to requires three more credits in chemistry. My last class in this curriculum will be physical chemistry with no lab.

I don't want to grow up, I wanna be a Toy's R' Us kid, well, the curriculum should lead to a degree in mathmatics and chemistry. I need to add a few courses in computer science however.