oldiesman

I would imagine that reloading equipment is very valuable now...

Well said! I would only add that Jesus accepted all the pain and suffering willingly. What does that mean? It means, he was at least partially responsible for it all happening. As to why it all had to happen this way, is beyond my comprehension. I believe one day will find out why!

They found a company that offers a remote start for the vehicle and said it would cost me $420. I asked them to throw that in with the deal and they refused, so I told them no deal. Meanwhile, a local Kia Dealer here in Dutchess County only yesterday offered me a brand new 2023 model with all the same features, but the 2023 is updated, futuristic auto body and remote start, better gas mileage, for less money. The main reason why its less money is, its front wheel drive. All wheel drive is better in snow, but costs more and offers less gas mileage overall.

Yes I do like Scotty, he seems to know his stuff and is funny. I subscribe to his YouTube channel. So yesterday I went to the dealership to check out the Kia. Turns out that the vehicle has been a dealership loaner and has 4000 miles on it. But it is treated as new and has all the warranties of new. I think its still a good deal without the surcharge -- this dealer charges $3000 surcharge on a new one of this model; and the dealers trade-in offer for my Nissan was decent. I didn't take it on the spot because it didn't come with remote start which is a must for me during winters in New York. Plus, they told me that Kia remote starts are only good for about 90 feet distance, whereas I need one that is at least 400 ft which is the distance from where I park my car to my bedroom window. So now they are calling two other companies they work with to find one with that distance.

I received an offer with no surcharge and am considering it. This is from a Kia dealer in New Jersey. The gas mileage is a little lower than what my Nissan gets right now, but Kia is excellent on warranties and when I test rode this model I really liked it. Kia Sportage. I've attached a copy of the window sticker... lemme know what you think. Haven't received their trade-in offer for the Nissan yet but if its close to what the averages are online, I may go with this offer. Bolshevik I agree with you on the inflation its better to use your cash right now than wait till cash is further devalued!

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Thanks for that information it is helpful... but am still not paying a surcharge over MSRP.

Your point is well taken but even so I'm not willing to pay a surcharge. I have another bone to pick with the dealers: they usually try to lowball you with the trade in. But trade-ins are good in the sense that the taxes are reduced (at least in NY) -- the trade in value is subtracted from the MSRP; whereas if you didn't trade in you'd pay taxes on the full MSRP. So if the dealer is offering $17000 for your trade-in, you would need to sell the vehicle for at least $18400 privately to make up for that in the tax savings.

Well only to keep my answer simple: they ain't getting a surcharge from me. I'd rather drive my existing than give them a surcharge. If you wanna talk about gold and silver, I'm game.. but that's another thread I suppose...

That may be, but they ain't getting mine !

Hi Folks, am in the process of visiting car dealerships and having difficulty because they all want $2000-3000 above MSRP! Its a real turnoff. Anyone know any dealers who don't have a surcharge?

Now that brings back some memories... Lived on Webb Avenue for many years, and had our fellowship there for many years which is walking distance to the school. Ah... those good old days, long long time ago.

Can't argue with that!

You may be correct... nice catch

Saw this piece and thought it was interesting. It doesn't explain or interpret the verses on the rapture but is clear on it being fiction according to the writer: The Rapture is Created as an Exit Strategy for Those Who Have Refused to Obey the Lord? – News With Views

You certainly can live life as you choose but didn't Lucifer do that and look where that got him? Why take that risk; seek God first, do his will as best you can, and God says eternal rewards will be yours.

Agree. Someone once said "if you can't defend it with an AR-15, don't buy it." Makes sense.

Agree. If you've got enough cash to buy land that's best. Also, cans of food as the preppers do.

It's up to the individual but for me, I believe the cost of silver and gold will be rising at some point so if I buy some now, it can be sold later and make a little profit. For that part to work you've got to know that you're buying low or know you're getting a good buying deal otherwise it doesn't make sense. Second, if the dollar crashes/ becomes worthless, the silver and gold will have value to either get the new cash value for it or barter for other goods/ commodities privately. If bartering I'd like to have the smallest denominations, dimes.

good idea...

A friendly discussion on buying gold and silver. Just purchased around $2K worth of silver: dimes, quarters, halfs. Have you purchased or are getting ready to? Thinking about it?

This is on YouTube but its not in English:

It's not much but better than nothing. Is it the same as here in the U.S. in that the pharmaceutical companies can't be sued and having a jury look at damages and compensation?

Know what will give me a little peace of mind? the ability to have the option to sue drug companies for damages: but these drug companies have immunity from liability in the event the shot causes some damages and death. As the story goes, in the mid-80's the U.S. govt. gave pharmaceutical companies liability protection against lawsuits because the drug companies lobbied and complained they were losing too much money on lawsuits and may go out of business. And now the govt. is on the verge of forcing the shots on kids so what happens if someone's kid get hurt in some way? According to this piece there's some recourse thru the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program but they haven't approved the covid-19 shot for this program: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html

I hope so too...