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Now now let's not get personal. You just don't seem to want to accept the fact that he acknowledged that lots of his stuff wasn't original. He was honest when he said that, but you don't accept his honesty. All he is to you is a liar and a thief. and worse.

Not beside the point. If his intent was to lie and steal, he wouldn't have made known to people that lots of his stuff wasn't original. Why did you change what you originally said Raffy?

IF he claimed all his stuff was original, you'd have a point there.

WhiteDove can answer for himself but I'll give my perception at the moment. There are different levels of honesty and integrity. There are grey areas. I think VP was careless in not giving proper written acknowledgement in his books. He could have done better if he wanted. Maybe he just didn't care. But, because he didn't, does that carelessness rise to the level of having an intent to lie and steal? Maybe but maybe not. I certainly don't believe so, for all the aforementioned reasons to the contrary. I could be wrong... I don't know what was in Wierwilles heart, his innermost being... but neither does anyone else except God.

Why is seeking God a good thing? Here's my two cents: God once said to man, "you started out as dirt, you will end up as dirt" As so goes mankind without the good graces of God.

Very well said, but, if every GS poster acted this way do you realize what it would do to the thread hits?

When I had questions for him in the past, yes, I called him. Works better than backbiting, and speaking "TO" a person one may have problems with is certainly biblical.

WhiteDove, Wow, well said. All of it. This is scary. I can't believe how much in agreement we are. :o I hope you didn't lose any sleep over your persistence in explaining your views, but I'm sure glad you did. :D

Right on MO!

To someone who's made available his phone number, he's probably expecting telephone calls from real people. You're probably nothing more to him than anonymous internet cyber characters until you pick up that phone. Be real. Call him up. You're not afraid are you?

I would go a step further and suggest that if anyone wants to engage him in a dialogue, call him on the telephone. He made that available so what's stopping some of you? Here's a chance for you to give JAL a piece of your mind, dang it! Get some guts for a change.

Dear Abby, I've never written to you before, but I really need your advice on what could be a crucial decision. I've suspected for some time now that my wife has been cheating on me. The usual signs... the phone rings but if I answer, the caller hangs up. My wife has been going out with the girls a lot recently although when I ask their names she always says, "Just some friends from work, you don't know them." I always stay awake to look out for her taxi coming home, but she always walks down the drive, although I can hear a car driving off, as if she has gotten out of the car round the corner. Why? Maybe she wasn't in a taxi? I once picked her cell phone up just to see what time it was and she went berserk and screamed that I should never touch her phone again and why was I checking up on her. Anyway, I have never broached the subject with my wife. I think deep down I just didn't want to know the truth, but last night she went out again and I decided to really check on her. I decided I was going to park my Harley Davidson next to the garage and then hide behind it so I could get a good view of the whole street when she comes home. It was at that moment, crouching behind my Harley, that I noticed that the rocker boxes on my engine seem to be leaking a little oil. Is this something I can fix myself or should I take it back to the dealer? Thanks, Biker Bob

I think so.

Never thought about how wierd it is. You are not emotionally scarred are you? :)

true enough but still, God has communicated his word through flawed human beings. I think it's a lot bigger than human comprehension.

My book says it was copyright in 1985. Gifts of the Spirit by B.G. Leonard was copyright-registered in 1966.

I don't believe that at all. But, living in this world exposed to evil, there's going to be sin, there's going to be sickness, there's going to be suffering and death. I certainly wouldn't say I understand everything about the way God allows all this to happen; but, I have seen demonstrated that his Word has been communicated through people who have sinned. In fact, we wouldn't have the word at all without men and women who have sinned. Don't know why that seems so difficult for some to accept.

Thanks for mentioning this LG. You and Linda have given reasonable facts supporting the conclusion that VP's ocular melanoma came from those original PFAL lights. Also heard what Evan said that VP said once that those strong lights cost him is eye.

Yes indeed, that was the option that was there from God and thousands of folks benefitted from it, even though a flawed human being communicated it. Yes, God was aware. He also knew that King Solomon was headed toward some of the most vile idolatrous behavior imaginable after he received Proverbs. Yet, God had Solomon write Proverbs, for those of us who believe it. God's love and grace is so big that he communicates his Word through sinners like us.

Yes he's my cat Woody. He wishes everyone a happy new year.

They must be nuts.

Happy New Year Raffy. :)

aw shucks, thank you. :P

I'm not answering any trick questions. :)