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Greetings, soul searcher Welcome to the cafe. Will you be needing a menu?

I wonder if they'll sing "Let's All Go To The Lobby" (and sign a green card) like they used to at public exes.

---but i don't think it's anybody's "freedom" to be able get into people's faces, to bully people, to tell people how to live their lives, to be condescending and arrogant. and i don't think it's anybody's "freedom" to try to keep people from speaking their minds so long as when they're doing that speaking it doesn't fall in those last things i mentioned. Nor do I. That's where "The Golden Rule" trumps all the other rules. IMO, it's possible to disagree with someone and still be cordial about it. Not that I always succeed at that, but it is possible. so just what is this "freedom" stuff anyway? Within the context of this website, I think people use the term "freedom" to mean they are no longer subject to the whims, dictates and oppression of The Way.

I have no idea. I didn't have any reservations, though, about being in front of an audience. I'm sure it must have been something fairly basic.

I think TWI probably secretly enjoys the existence of GSC. It "validates" to them that they must be doing something important. "Wow, we must be really moving the word. Look at how the adversary is firing darts at us."

What???? No HAIRY BUFFALO??

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Met my old lover in the grocery store

From page 31 of the AC syllabus: GIFTS OF HEALINGS It is our taking the place of Jesus Christ here upon earth. :o

As long as you follow the posted rules, you are free to express your opinion here, whatever it might be. Just don't expect people to always agree with you.

You see, this only serves to underscore the futility of all the efforts and sacrifices we made to promote the stupid thing in the first place. So now you can look at your WOW year and say, "Yeah, it was really tough, but at least I did it to promote a class/book that even TWI no longer finds viable".

I mean, isn't that the one that was supposed to be "foundational"? "Can't understand this other stuff unless you first understand the 'foundational' book. It's got all the 'keys', dontcha know" <_<

Anyone else notice the book that is conspicuously absent? http://theway.org/bookstore.php?page=wayresearch&lang=en

"You guys just weren't looking hard enough. Sure, there's a phone number (fax number too).... if you want to BUY something". HaHaHa----I would have NEVER found it, then.

They don't even list a phone number. Just "P.O.Box 328"

How about this one: I witnessed an incident where a person missing a limb was witnessed to and brought into the twig family. They were told that if they would just take the class, they could learn how to get their believing up so they could then get ministered to and have their limb restored. Now, I realize some may say, "With God, all things are possible." This person was seen as a trophy. Yeah, if The Way could pull this one off, people would be begging to sign the green card. In retrospect, it was sheer cruelty. Once it became apparent that the person wasn't going to be taking the class (due to strong opposition from their family) the person was dropped like a hot potato. It was all part of VPW's drive to push PFAL sales figures up.

Of course it's foolish. But, back in the 70's, if you got "ministered to" and then went to a Dr., it sent a loud message that you didn't really "believe" in "ministering", that you had spiritual weakness. If you went to a Dr., you had to keep it quiet so no one would suspect your weakness. The very act of getting ministered to was perceived as stepping out on your believing. It's one of those unspoken kind of things that were so prevalent at that time. After someone threw away their meds and died, in about 1974, Wierwille used the main stage at ROA to put a major spin on it and launched a damage control effort. I'm sure he realized the legal liabilities that were at stake.

You asked for it!

No man is an island-------John Donne

You should be able to look at the annual statement SS sends out and see if those years reflect a contribution.

You have to wonder, too, how many people needlessly suffered or even died because they opted for "believing & ministering" rather than seeking appropriate mental or physical treatment.

Now THIS one used to bug me. "Father, thank you for renewing this man's fellowship." I never knew "intercession" was in our job description. <_<

Legitimate Question: One that warrants a legitimate answer.

If you hurry, you can still squeeze in part of Friday The Thirteenth.