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To get some insight into vpee's childhood Don'tWorry posted CLICK HERE .

If you are abused by another, you can become like the abuser or decide to become a healer, the choice is one's own. God bless your Mom and Dad Rumrunner, they made the right choices...

You got it George!!! :)

Aha! WW swooped in and solved it..!!!!

Are you freakin kidding me??? That's shocking, almost inconceivable. That explains vpee's attitude, a lot...

need 2 names 4 pics

Well, rap sure-has something to do with the title...

And you hip-hop, and you don't stop. Just blast off, sure shot, 'Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin' cars and eatin' bars, And now he only eats guitars, get up!

Couldn't forget this one.... :)

Alrighty then....I will post later with a new one!!!

Hi George! :) Thanks for the tip, is it Belle de Jour?

The fact that even one person was raped by the founder, not to mention the suicides because of the founder, directly or indirectly, even though those things didn't happen to me or anyone I personally knew at the time, those actions totally negate the whole thing, a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. Those specific things falsify any wholeness, or goodness, even if on the surface the organization appears beneficial. It puts everything about the founder and the organization into a carnal state, bereft of godliness and any relationship to God almightly who is good and who does not dwell with evil. It is hard to condone our past with cheerful reminiscings when there are those who were devisated by the head man and the people of the oragnizarion. I can't argue with the scripture, a little leaventh.....I won't shutt my eyes to what really happened....

Great recipes gc!!! Thanks for posting them!

Ok, thanks for the reference purple Cathy, bell dooj pitcher, jug, karaff, vase, decanter, ewer ????

Glad to see your posts again Excie, missed your contributions...

OK...movie... Cathy, catherine, bell, jag lady? mom? ??? pitcher, jug ????

Creedence Clearwater/Down on the Corner.

:) 50??? I've tried making mayo before, and it hasn't really turned out that well, and the last time I tried making yogurt, without a yogurt maker, some weird bacteria got in there and it took way longer than it was supposed to to set up, and gave me a stomach ache too! I think I missed it somewhere along the line with the technique...

Kimberly, don't hold back on us, share your mayo recipies!! I would love to hear about making it at home!

To learning much inclined, Who went to see the Elephant (Though all of them were blind), That each by observation Might satisfy his mind. The First approach'd the Elephant, And happening to fall Against his broad and sturdy side, At once began to bawl: "God bless me! but the Elephant Is very like a wall!" The Second, feeling of the tusk, Cried, -"Ho! what have we here So very round and smooth and sharp? To me 'tis mighty clear This wonder of an Elephant Is very like a spear!" The Third approached the animal, And happening to take The squirming trunk within his hands, Thus boldly up and spake: "I see," quoth he, "the Elephant Is very like a snake!" The Fourth reached out his eager hand, And felt about the knee. "What most this wondrous beast is like Is mighty plain," quoth he, "'Tis clear enough the Elephant Is very like a tree!" The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear, Said: "E'en the blindest man Can tell what this resembles most; Deny the fact who can, This marvel of an Elephant Is very like a fan!" The Sixth no sooner had begun About the beast to grope, Then, seizing on the swinging tail That fell within his scope, "I see," quoth he, "the Elephant Is very like a rope!" And so these men of Indostan Disputed loud and long, Each in his own opinion Exceeding stiff and strong, Though each was partly in the right, And all were in the wrong! MORAL. So oft in theologic wars, The disputants, I ween, Rail on in utter ignorance Of what each other mean, And prate about an Elephant Not one of them has seen! The Blind Men and the Elephant John Godfrey Saxe's ( 1816-1887) version of the famous Indian legend To see the whole picture of what was really truth often eludes those who were close enough to 'touch' the elephant, so often perspectives are based soley on what we saw in front of us, based on our positions, our circle of friends, and those we associate with. To stretch and look beyond our insular point of view toward what might have been the experience of others is sometimes the hardest thing. VP and TWI both sowed the crops of wheat and of tares, I feel blessed to have experienced both so that my eyes have been opened.

Steve! You are right! On both counts! :) He does kinda look like the cigar store indian! They actually offered the role to Will Smith before Keaunu, that would have totally changed the feel of the movies if he had taken the role.

Hey, Geisha, yes it is moist, and no I didn't add the topping only because I love the way the top crust of banana bread becomes so sweet and moist, it's one of the best things about banana bread, so I didn't want to deprive everyone from enjoying that aspect of it! I do think the topping is utterly fantastic, but I didn't want to give up the bread top, kinda like a muffin top thing. :) Geisha, you must have the neighborhood house where all the kids like to hang out! I hear ya about the amount of food kids can consume, when the kids are gone, there's a whole lot less activity in the kitchen. Good luck with the new recipe, it should be a cinch since it's really your recipe! If you like lots of apples use 1 cup, if you'd like them a little more sparse, use 1/2 cup of chopped apples, they make a good contrast to the bananas in flavor and texture.

Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth. What truth? There is no spoon. There is no spoon? Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself. ........ I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you. ...... I imagine that right now, you're feeling a bit like Alice. Hmm? Tumbling down the rabbit hole? You could say that. I see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because he is expecting to wake up. Ironically, that's not far from the truth. Do you believe in fate? No. Why not? Because I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my life. I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about? .......... I'd ask you to sit down, but, you're not going to anyway. And don't worry about the vase. - What vase? [He turns to look for a vase, and as he does, he knocks over a vase of flowers, which shatters on the floor] - That vase. - I'm sorry... - I said don't worry about it. I'll get one of my kids to fix it. - How did you know? - Ohh, what's really going to bake your noodle later on is, would you still have broken it if I hadn't said anything?

Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth. What truth? There is no spoon. There is no spoon? Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself. ........ I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you. ...... I imagine that right now, you're feeling a bit like Alice. Hmm? Tumbling down the rabbit hole? You could say that. I see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because he is expecting to wake up. Ironically, that's not far from the truth. Do you believe in fate? No. Why not? Because I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my life. I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Hi Giesha and Waysider! I wanted to report back to you that I combined your Dutch Apple Bread recipe and Banana Bread recipe, with some minor additions, and the resulting bread came out fantastic! It was delish, everyone scarfed it down like there was no tomorrow!! :) The mods I made were that I made only 1 loaf, used only one jumbo egg instead of two eggs, I used an extra teaspoon of vanilla, squirted in some lemon juice instead of the buttermilk to help the baking soda react, I melted the butter, and used 4 bananas.... I basically used what I had on hand, it was a combination of Geisha's apple bread and Waysiders banana bread as the main template...it turned out great, thanks for the recipes, this is a great way to use up extra apples and bananas! Apple Banana Bread Makes 1 loaf 1/2 cup melted butter 1 cup sugar (you can also use light brown sugar and can get away with using just 3/4 cup sugar for a less sweet recipe) 1 egg, jumbo, beaten or 2 regular eggs 2 teaspoons vanilla 1 tablespoon lemon juice 1 teaspoon baking soda 1/2 teaspoon salt 1 cup peeled chopped apples 4 mashed ripe bananas 2 cups of all-purpose flour nuts are optional I mixed this by hand since I just poured the hot melted butter over the sugar, and didn't need to use the mixer to cream it, then added the rest of the ingredients in order, mixing, before adding the flour. Also, with quick breads it's a good idea not to over mix the flour, so I added the flour last, and just mixed till most of the flour was stirred in. Grease the bread pan, dust pan with sugar if desired. Bake at 350 for 1 hour. Since I made the bread I also decided to make the butter too, it is the freshest, creamiest, best tasting butter. Remember making butter in kindergarten by shaking cream in a glass jar? This way is so easy too, basically you just whip heavy cream (organic or regular) in your stand mixer till it peaks, then it curds and clumps around the blade, you then separate the butter from the buttermilk at the bottom of the mixer, drink the buttermilk, rinse the butter, and viola! …fresh homemade butter!! Here’s a few link with pictures on how to do it: How to make butter click here How to make French cultured butter: Homemade French Butter click here Enjoy!!