JavaJane

Anyone here remember VPW's PFAL Adv. Class and the film clips of psychic surgery being performed?

Angel showed how it was done and some of the basic props - very simple. He performed a dramatization of the surgery - and DANG, if it didn't look JUST LIKE what was shown in that Advanced Class...

It would have been as sharp as discerning a pea under a walnut shell - a BFD thing, spiritually. It was nothing - slight of hand and some fake blood and some chicken livers - whoop-dee-doo... but according to VPW & Co. there were 5 star general devil spirits there, you know!

Spiritual sharpness of a tennis ball...

I thought the same thing when I saw Man in the Moon - there's a scene in there that shows the slight of hand stuff.

Maybe the 5 star generals that were causing him to use people so badly were keeping him from seeing the slight of hand?

Darn it Java, you got me all worked up.

Probably totally derailed your thread.

that's ok. I gave myself heartburn I got so mad... How's that for irony?

In any case- bad Anime or Manga would be better than that schlock on the Way website.

Agreed. I mainly appreciate Anime in a strictly entertainment sort of way, not really in the "art" aspect - although some of it is quite aesthetically pleasing.

I think my hubby would rather hang a large anime poster in our living room than that poster.

Jezebel, hmm. . .

Notice that their ringleader was/is a women? Rosalie Foxabel? Rosabel Fox? I dunno.

I got a recipe for Jezebal sauce! It's yummy... Made from real Jezebels, you know...

Welcome, cdonkers!

Welcome, cdonkers!

I think I may have struck a nasty chord with this thread...

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I'm still mad. MAD MAD MAD MAD MAD!!!

How dare someone try to come between a man and his wife - pollute the beauty of a sacrament of GOD that was set up AT THE VERY BEGINNING?

AND THEN PROFESS TO BE DOING GOD'S WILL???

It must make God sick to be said to be the reason for so many marriages splitting up.

Who was usurping the head? THEY WERE!! They broke down the man's courage. They put things in place to make the wives keep their mouths shut so that they couldn't give their husbands advice. And if that didn't work, they destroyed her reputation, marking her as a Jezebel... if they had managed to castrate the husband by then, they worked on removing the woman... If he wasn't castrated, they accused him of HAVING NO BALLS (what the heck?) and kicked them both out.

And it would be better for a millstone to be tied around their neck and have them be tossed into the ocean than to do the things they did - God knows. He sees.

It's a good thing vengeance belongs to God. I know he'll do it right.

BASTARDS.

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Exactly, I brought that subject of confrontation up to her Cabinet idiot about another subject. He blew it off. He was ready to kick my wife off Staff but have me stay.

Anything I wanted to say to Rivenbark I was to do IN WRITING.

Her department coordinator ran our marriage. It still gets me ENRAGED.

They are devils. The whole lot of them.

I would have said FARGING ICEHOLES myself, but devils works, too.

Same thing happened to my parents in the WC - it was ok for Dad to take the kids, but my Mom had to go - she was to "willfull".

BASTARDS!!!

I think my hubby really got a clue about how bad it was when he tried to talk to our coordinator (you know who, B) and was called a "Bro" and told that he really understood why he was concerned since I was kicking up such a fuss about things... But then when I got pulled aside he said that he was really sick of all the fiances, fathers, and husbands who kept sticking their noses in his business when he felt their women needed confronting.

When my man heard that one, he blew his top. How dare he call him a "brother" and then stab him in the back?

EVIL EVIL EVIL.

My wife was doing everything I told her to do.

Rivenbark and her Cabinet had a problem with that. So they hounded her for being disobedient to me.

They never confronted me.

Her Cabinet dogs presented things to me in a very obscure way.

I asked to meet with her. Wasn't gonna happen.

My wife believes they were trying to split us apart.

Rivenbark is the devil. She hates marriage.

I know... I know... the is for Mrs. B, too. She's a kick foot woman, and you are a lucky lucky man!

There's certainly something about the internet that scares the hell out of them.

Free exchange of information?

Folks on Staff have made many suggestions for outreach via the internet. (I'm no a computer/internet guy so I can't explain them) The Directors shoot each one done with some force. People there are perplexed. One dude even asked them face to face "What've we got to hide?"

Maybe they've been reading Greasespot?

Don't worry. Rivenbark has made sure that when there is an affair, only the man is punished.

(not talking about me here)

That one took me a minute, Mr. B... but I got it now.

Here's the link to the thread in Doctrinal, in case anyone is interested:

CLICK HERE

I really hate Anime and Manga - but in this case I'd make and exception...

Guess you're hating my photo, eh, Dooj?

:unsure:

TWI always said that the woman had to be a strong Godly woman so that she didn't destroy her husband like some modern day Delilah. In reality, if you were strong you were really "headstrong" and "disobedient." Then naturally of course, the husband was weak and most probably a homo.

I never fit that mold - I ran like the devil from it.

It always irritated me, the general idea that women were cast as the temptresses because of what Eve supposedly did... And Bathsheba - that sl*t! She took down David! And what about Solomon's wives... Those evil idolatrous whores!

And remember - God only spoke to Debra because no man had "risen up"... As if God somehow stooped to her level to speak to someone about it.

But what they all forget is that the MEN in these records were RESPONSIBLE for their own actions and for KEEPING IT IN THEIR PANTS.

And they forgot about how God told Abraham to hearken to Sarah... or Abigail taking care of David, or Mary who had the courage to bear Jesus Christ (without permission from her espoused husband), or how many other countless women did wonderful things for God...

I can honestly say, I never wanted a man who would be the type to blame his own actions on his wife. And mine doesn't.

Even my father in law (Catholic) found it very strange at our wedding that women did not handle the coordination of anything except handing out the flowers. It bothered him so much he pulled me aside later on and asked me about it... especially since he had heard we had a woman president.

Check out the thread in Doctrinal on "The Harlot at the Side of the Road." There are some great thoughts on being female in their... awesome stuff.

And check out the picture with year in review - apparently two african-americans came to a fellowship! (Or maybe that's from the work in Africa...)

Check out the diversity!

Got married a while back and suddenly changed status in twi from "spiritually mature femal with half a brain" to "appendage of husband."

Apparently, the salt covenant wiped out any and all spiritual perception and transferred it to my beloved spouse - Don't get me wrong, he's a pretty smart cookie who can definately think on his own, and he has the cajones to say what he thinks regardless of what color nametage he's addressing. (The reason I married that wonderful man - that and his deep regard for science fiction.)

I've been thinking some about this lately, and I am coming to the realization that this REALLY ....ES ME OFF.

I know this has to do with the whole "submitting to the head" bit, but seriously, folks, COME ON!!

I know this happened to other people, too.

A friend of mine made a similar concoction, but with back cherries and vodka.

mmmmmm.... vodka!

Do you honestly think you can screw things up more than they can? :biglaugh:

Seriously - Mr. B is right... They've frucked things up enough for themselves already!

So, each person's deeds will either be worth remembering, or be destroyed in the fire,

depending on the specific deed. (As of the Christian's "Day of Judgement.")

As to remembering specifics, I don't think we'll have gaps in our memories, but be

able to contextualize them properly so they're not as troublesome as some memories some

of us carry.

That's how I interpret that SPECIFICALLY when reading Revelation 21:4.

" 4and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away."

That's all IMHO, of course.

I like your take on this, Wolfie... It's very similar to how I see it as well. I have some experiences that at one point in my life cause tremendous pain and sorrow to think about, but now I can look back on them without the pain and hurt, and just see them for what they were. I can even learn from them, and use that knowledge to help other people. In fact, some of those experiences have only made the good things in my life stronger.

That, IMHO, would be similar to being able to remember them in the next life without the mourning, the crying, or the pain.

Chas, you and I got in about the same time (me a little earlier, but didn't take the class until much later - we didn't have enough people to run it) and at about the same age, too.

I began to question things about the time you got out. Guess you're smarter than me! I stuck around thinking maybe something would change...

Still wondering...

Special for Dooj - although we were talking about this on another thread...

http://www.theway.org/

The poster i was speaking of is right in the center.

Comments? I'd love to hear them!

"BURP!"

(excuse me.)

Maybe a robot rebellion?

Guess there's not that many Gen-Xers and beyond around here... Just bringing it to the top in hopes some more will post.

can anyone get to www.theway.org?

Nope.

Must be the adversary.

I seem to remember Isaiah 65:17 in this context

Isaish 65:17;

For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth and the former shall not be remembered nor come to mind

In this context, Romans 8:1 would be a quick referal regarding our administration. I'm sure there's a lot more.

Now, THAT seems to back the thought up that we won't remember the pain of this life. I'll take a good look at that verse.

This seems to occur after the gathering together and the war in which the devil and death are thrown into the pit... that time period makes more sense than having this fall immediately after the gathering.

thanks for the verse!

I think, instead of trying to do it ourselves, maybe we need to ask God to open the doors and show us how to do this. I think we may be surprised at what he shows us.