brideofjc

Does he know Jesus as his Lord and Savior? If he does, you can tell him that he doesn't need to worry about dying. He can live a long and prosperous life getting to know his Savior better each day.

The sexualizing of the original sin, as I said in an earlier post, is not new at all, it was already being pondered upon whenever they were writing the Mishnah tractates and the Talmudic literature. Because apparently, the Jewish rabbi's concluded the same as a lot of folks have concluded that there wasn't much around to sin with, so a sin involving sex seems to be the obvious choice in the matter. I do not think that people are "projecting" their fantasies onto the text, what would be the point? Especially, if you've ever considered any scholastic efforts. But as I also mentioned, another thought that I had pondered on, was just exactly that, that the "eating" was really the digestion of the Word and both trees, namely, one was Christ, probably in his pre-incarnate body and the other was the dvl. They merely chose the wrong words to digest and assimilate into their minds. It's nice to hear that other theologians also think that the tree of life is Christ as well.

Now if the Dee Jays are ready..... Where were we?

The "Acts" that you linked to are within the Apocryphal writings. As you stated, "Some are more fanciful than others, but as the link explains "acts" was a genre of writing of the time." At least two that I perused were dated from the fourth century, which obviously also places them in the pseudepigraphal works. As I said in another post, the pseudepigraphal works were written by other than the listed name, sometimes after the death of the purported writer. This was not an uncommon practice, especially when they knew "leaders" were looking for apostolic authority to be attached to the document before its inclusion into the canon. Regarding the OT, the prophetic books obviously wouldn't have been written in one setting, but rather all of the writings of a particular prophet would have been gathered, sorted by date, using the various kings as their time lines and finally re-writen in one long scroll and thus preserved. In fact, the historical books as well, come to think of it often covered hundreds of years and so the various individual writings would have been kept most likely in the Temple with the scribes. It makes for good tourism to the rotunda, don't you think? LOL While it may be true that the winning kings eradicated all traces of the battles that they lost while winning the war, this didn't occur every time. I forget which pagan king that David fought and he won. However, archaeologists found a stele from the pagan nation in question and there was king David's name. This certifiably established that there really was a king David, which archaeologists for years had purported that Israel had manufactured a glorious king David for their own glorification. So sometimes the losing kings did record the truth of the situation. Ancient spin? Personally, I also don't believe that this was done in the compilation of the old or new testament Scriptures either. There's just too much frankness written down about the faults of the leaders. So the obvious goal is not the glorification of the individuals involved, but a simple statement of the historical events.

Oh, sure Cman, even the Bible states that the pagan nations surrounding Israel were worshipping gods. I just don't believe that they are True. One could worship their car and "lovingly shine" it every Sunday and wipe the dust off after every drive. One could also worship their job, bank account etc etc. For me, there is only ONE GOD. Comprendre ?

Ahh, but you see, at least I hope you do, that this them makes your post off-topic as well? But since the topic is about "Scriptures" it should be self evident that one will advance their Scriptures and it's veracity. If it includes "pointing" to "Scriptures" that the other poster has admitted a common bond to, sure, I'll admit it, I wish everyone who ever experienced the queering that twi doctrine did to those Scriptures and to those who innocently believed them and were trying to live them out, would either "come back" if they have left, or be strengthened if they are still hanging in there. If taking a stand upon the veracity of the Holy Bible, which I believe are the only Scriptures is being "preachy", well so be it. If there are any Muslims et al, then are they not free as well to propound what "Scriptures" are? You could worship a god and believe that there is only one god. I could also worship a different god and believe that there is only one god.

Yes, there is! But I guess two people could worship their particular god and believe it is only one and each would be correct, until they met the other. LOL.

Only if you're speaking of different gods. And that a "she" to you, Cman!

You're showing your age, Frank123lol! LOL indeed! And I guess I'm showing mine, because I know what you're talking about!

For me? There is only one True God, Yahweh. There may be (IMB) those that call themselves god, but again, (IMB) they are not. How many are there for you?

Penworks you said: "Surely, many of these scriptures were and are considered sacred to some people, obviously. There are also many other "scriptures" belonging to other cultures that are sacred to them, too. Where is the "right" one, which is the "right" God? I have honestly asked myself this question for the past 20 years since leaving twi and I can say it's not easy to even present it here because of the "heretical" stigma it carries. But some of us really, deeply are concerned about this subject and the implications of it we see in the world around us. I welcome conversation about it." Yet now, you are shutting down the conversation. May I ask why? Is it coming too close to home? Let me assure you, there is nothing "heretical" about questioning God, for the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY is not afraid of your questions, Penworks. HE loves to prove HIMSELF true. Please respond to this. Thanks.

Yes, Hinduism does, but Christianity has been making some strong inroads in that nation for some time now and the Christian population is growing. Who knows, maybe in yours or my lifetime, Hinduism may fall to the ground, even as Dagon fell and the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY saw to it that both the false god's head and hands were broken off. I think it says it all. Can't think or do anything. Why doesn't it happen today, you say? I think it does, it just doesn't get the press. Perhaps not as grand as Elijah...but I know a person had challenged me verbally on something pertaining to Christianity (I can't recall the words now), but one of the promises that God has made, is that if you serve HIM with all your heart, HE will not let your words drop to the ground, but will perform them. Anyway, the person thought they had caught me in an error regarding what I had previously said....and it gave me pause....wondering just exactly what I had said at some prior time to cause this person to now be thinking..."Aha! got her now! Wriggle out of this one, lady." Then all of a sudden the HS dropped the answer into my spirit and I spoke it forth, and the person was taken aback with his mouth hanging open for a second before he shutup and turned away. Another instance that happened to me, a woman colleague also did the same, not with Christianity however, but with a decision that had to be made and thought she had cornered me into having to agree with her way, when I knew I was right, but it was a test of wills. Again, she had said that I had to do thus and thus because the courts had ruled on this particular subject (cannot go into detail here because of privacy laws) and I would have to abide by it whether I like it or not. Then the HS dropped the bombshell answer into my spirit and I told her that the person in question would be receiving the decision of the courts because they would have visitation on Saturday, which would end one week and Sunday, which legally is the start of the next week. Therefore, the court rulings would prevail and they indeed would have weekly visitations. Again, open mouth....forced to shutup with no comebacks. So, yes, it does still happen today. I haven't seen fire fall from heaven yet, but that doesn't mean that I never will.

That's because you're thinking twi dogma and their failure to separate body, soul and spirit, but relegated spirit to mean the HS that you received at new birth. I've had to cast them out of myself when the Lord had me on a cleansing program, so I cannot deny it and won't, especially when the HS is the one that told me to cast it forth. Possessed would indicate the demonic habitation of the person's spirit, while oppressed would indicate the demonic habitation of the soul. Either way, they need to be cast out after repentance in the blood of Jesus has been made available. I do not know about your Grandfather....I didn't know him, obviously. But when my Mother died, I was worshipping the Lord as I was laying in my bed and all of a sudden, I felt a decided and definite "hug" and heard the words, "I love you." I thought it was the Lord Jesus and so just said back, "I love you, too." Then I started to fall asleep and then the phone rang and it was my sister saying, 'Mom's gone." She had checked on her about an hour or two before and she was fine, breathing etc. I then thought about the time line and it was about a little more than an hour ago when I had thought it was the Lord Jesus speaking to me and hugging me, but now I know, it was my Mother saying goodbye to me. I no longer have such constrained thoughts about death and what happens to the dead after they die. Not like I did when indoctrinated with twi dogma. In all reality it is only their bodies that have died, not their spirits or their souls.

You can contact the MS Sec. of State and request a copy of the BOD for about $10 or so. These are public records and are available.

DID YOU SEE ONE?