Seth R.

Have fun, you'll be back. LOL! Seth

Happy Birthday! Seth

Thanks! Seth

I love the whole remodel job, and the added articles on the front page are awesome, I love being able to just click play on the current GS Radio clip and listen to it. All around easier on the eyes, quicker to see what's new, and it looks like I can get anywhere on the site from the front page. Great job! Loved the interview with John Juedes. One question though, where are the men's rooms? Oh, and this isn't a non-smoking joint is it? Seth

I wonder if I applied to UT and said I was in TWI if I'd get a free ride? Just a thought... ;) Seth

I have a question, The Way International has an "Email board" ? Where is it I want to try and join. I looked all over their website www.theway.com and I can't find it. Help please. Seth

After reading this I just realized something. She's on the outs and trying to get back in, you are the bait, she's probably going to try and use you to get back in. By bringing fruit to the fellowship, I hate to say it but you are a peace offering to TWI. If TWI was so great all there fellowships would be good. Seth

Hi Ryan, welcome. You are in the right place. Unfortunately your girlfriend might choose TWI over you, better be prepared for that. You might have to make the first move, please for your own mental health don't allow her to drag you into the insanity of TWI. This is a group that operates well under the radar, and has no independent oversight committee, and no elected governing body. They operate without any ruling authority, they would say there ruling authority is God and the King James Bible. Most mainstream denominations have ruling counsels and any minister I've meet who is worth his salt always checks with humans before they claim God told him to say such and such. Even if TWI didn't have all the scandals just the way they run things is suspect, who get's the money, where are the charitable works? Why are all their materials kept guarded by Copyright and lock and key? Why does man have the ego to copyright what they consider the will of God? At best TWI is a ship of fools sailing nowhere, at worse a pirate slave ship pillaging and plundering the hearts and minds of the unsuspecting. Seth

Patrick, were you in South Korea around '89? I was supposed to write you and get a twig going. I was stationed at Suwon AB. '89 to '90 Seth

It seems to me this thread is breaking traditions. ODAT Seth

From restless, irritable and discontented to happy joyous and free in 12 simple steps. See you on the road of happy destiny. Seth

Get an account on photobucket, save the chuchsign picts locally, upload them to photobucket, copy the IMG tag and paste it in your post. www.photobucket.com Seth

OK I'll share my secret. www.churchsigngenerator.com Some of you thought they were real? LOL! Seth

More!

OK first this is why Rosalie annoys me, she's a wind bag! Her Themes are longer then the taxonomic nomenclature of animal species. This is surprising, 1) Sam is still in (15th corps grad) 2) Sam is married (good on ya boy!) 3) Sam is heading up a state. Sam was in my WOW team back in '92-'93, Loved those Mickey's Big Mouths we had a few over the year. Other wise the Berryh*lls are the only other people I know. Seth

In the words of Richard Pryor. "That Ni99a is crazy!" "East Camden in da houze!" Seth

Sease be pleated

Well Crap I could have told you Camden wasn't on the list anymore I live right across the street from Camden and haven't heard a gun shot in 3 months. But winter is coming and so a new year, OK Camden let's kick that St. Louis buttox! Seth

...did I hear a pin drop? Wait now the crickets are chirping... Oh, look a tumbleweed is rolling by. Seth

This is one of the more confusing things for most people I talk to about my cult involvement. They think cults don't kick people out, so it's hard to explain why I got out of TWI. My branch coordinator told me not to come back twig, eleven years later it was the best thing. Seth

It was refered to as a finger, because that's about the size of it... :o But I derail... Seth

Hi Folks it's been a couple weeks since I first posted this, I'm happy with the results. In my original example I used single words that each took on special meaning in TWI, I asked for the same. I am looking for single words that TWI "loaded with meaning". I don't care if these words effect you now or not, just what are the words and what did they mean to you and how did they effect you? How did you change your attitudes and actions after hearing or thinking about those words? I'm trying to keep it simple most of the buzzwords/loaded language was planted during the PFAL class, and they are single words two words at the most, anything with more then two words becomes a phrase and becomes a concept. Concepts are easier to spot so please understand when I break down those concepts into their original buzzwords. Kevlar was the first to post, and help with pointing to another thread; my point was specific to loaded language which is more subtle then the renaming and rephrasing of common terms or concepts. Thanks. ----- Lori posted with a concept "first thought" in my experience this concept was taught after teaching on fellowship or in/out of fellowship. The teaching was something like this, when we are in fellowship we are inspired and therefore our first thought is the one God places there. Of course this then gets into Weirwilles teaching that you can only think one thought at a time, if there are two thoughts then you are possessed. New loaded words from Lori's post: First Thought Fellowship, in fellowship, out of fellowship One Thought ----- Potato posted ----- GrouchoMarxJr posted some concepts and added that we can call these trigger words. New words from Groucho. Best, in TWI parlance the word "Good" was passe as Christians God wants what's "best" for us. The Devil knows the difference between good and evil, therefore the devil can choose to do good if he wants. So we were always dogged in TWI to do what's best, because after all we don't want people to think we did the devils bidding. "That the ministry be not blamed" was high concept not taught at the foundational level. It must invoke many buzzwords certainly "best" is one of them. "Be not puffed up" "Our father in the word" this brings into play a big TWI buzzword "The Word" invoking "the rightly divided word" or "original truth" "God breathed" "revelation". The reference to "Our father" is not a buzzword as such but we know that the man who this referred to did not treat the women in TWI as daughters. "Discerning of spirits" ----- SafariVista posted some concepts. "There is safety in a multitude of counselors" 'One's own' = IDIOT ‘By his stripes you were healed’ ‘Whatsoever you ask in prayer, believing, you shall receive’ ----- excathedra, and Thomas Loy Bumgarner checked in. ----- bliss mentioned "Happy Ho Ho" this was a feeble attempt by TWI to rename Holidays to support their beliefs. Christmas was a "bad" word in TWI short for Christ's Mass, given TWI's disdain for the Catholic Church they link December 25th not to the birth of Jesus but to the Winter Solstice and the historical sun worship by pagan Romans. So Happy HO HO is more about TWI discrediting Catholics then honoring God. ----- templelady shared some buzzwords. Renewed mind, this term was the ultimate re-enforcer to plug those buzzwords back in, and learn new ones. When I was told to renew my mind it came to mean, think like "we" think. spiritual trapdoor, this was a shocker to me, TWI teaches that in order for a person to get possessed the spirit has to enter a special doorway to the mind and body. TWI teaches that this doorway is shut when one is in fellowship, but at times when one is not in fellowship the door may open. Since TWI teaches they have the purest truth their way is the best way not to become possessed. This sets up a circular logic pattern in the mind leading to a phobia, I found myself seeking more and more truth going to more and more classes, reading more and more of the bible and really becoming deeply trapped by the "spiritual trapdoor". Then I went to the advanced class and Wierwille taught that seed of the serpent have their trapdoor wedged open. meekness five senses oldman ----- Lori talked about "Travel by two" Two by two was originally a Way Corps concept most notably on LEAD. LCM seemed to want the whole ministry to live by corps principles, so in 1992 he made it standard for WOW's then in the late 90' for the whole ministry. ----- Potato added, Wrong Decide or decision In the Word Weakness ----- but now I see, gave us, Luck or Good Luck ----- SafariVista again with, "Uphold the Standard of the Word" "Clean House" ----- Lori had more, schedules spiritually clean ----- WhiteDove gave us a machine gun... ----- Potato is on fire with more, Reporting back tricked ----- templelady reviews the renewed mind ----- Belle shares, Miss it or "Where'd you miss it?" "standing in the gap" ----- WordWolf shares some words with us ----- Twinky gives us this one, Fortunately ----- T-Bone with, The integrity of The Word ----- If I missed anything I'm sorry. let's keep this thing rolling. Thanks for all the activity Seth

WW is correct. Sorry I was destracted by some personal stuff. Seth