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Indeed, I didn't realize the crucial nature of the social connections twi provided at that time. Reconnecting with old friends and family is a wonderful thing and a great first step (when available) for finding "one's own tribe." Thanks T-Bone.
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Even when faced with immensely challenging situations.
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I found this blog on the Psychology Today website after listening to a couple of TED Talks by psychologist Guy Winch. The Importance of Belonging to a Tribe The curative powers of group identity. Posted Feb 19, 2020 As social animals, we have a "need to belong." We might not experience this need consciously or even be aware that we have it but it resides deep within us nonetheless. After all, in our historical past, we lived in tribes with whose members we spent our entire lives. Today, our "tribe" is often our immediate family—those with whom we live and share meals. However, given the fractured nature of today’s families (picture five people sitting in different rooms, each absorbed with their own screen), and given that unmarried adults often live alone or with roommates, our "need to belong" often goes partially or substantially unmet. What makes it important to address our need to belong to a group(s) is that it is not just a theoretical construct: It has real and significant implications for our emotional health. Here are some of the ways joining a group and finding our "tribe" can improve our happiness and emotional resilience. (continued) [...] If you do not have a "tribe" of your own, take the time to seek one out or create one. Doing so requires effort and initiative but the return on investment will be worth it as it can give a significant boost to your quality of life and your emotional well-being. Btw, here are links to the two TED Talks Young people (when we were young) were drawn to veepee's cult by the tribal need to belong. Coincidentally, a new movie that opens tomorrow in the US addresses the need to belong for both kids and an alcoholic adult.
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Indeed, I remember March Fo(u)rth every year. So glad your nephew only lost property, hopefully he had insurance.
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Indeed. But at age 22 (43 years ago or so), it just felt overwhelming... but yes, I know now it was a smart move. I almost made it all the way out of the cult that year. After being away for nearly a year, a 7th corpse guy apparently found my phone number (it was listed then) called me and I went back to twi for a few years. Finally made the break after veepee passed.
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Obviously, I can't speak to your motivations (and I know you didn't ask me to), but there hasn't been anyone that matched your insight and communication skill to more effectively spell out the problems as well as you. Yes, others have told their stories. That's just as important. But your insight has been incredibly valuable and important. Had you not stayed in as long as you had, your story would not be as rich and robust as it is. So, thank you (on behalf of many others beside just me). Because of personal stress I'm currently enduring, I've been thinking a lot today about John 16:33. 33 “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.” In plain English, EVERYONE endures stress. Everyone has major challenges. Perhaps for much of our lives.
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Yes, yes, and YES! Key words, abandoning him. As always, Brother Sky, you nailed it... not unlike nailing 95 theses to a church door.
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My perspective is that it wouldn't have taken any supernatural operation for them to have seen it coming. Just common sense thinking about that tree. Perhaps they should have known it was inevitable.
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Foreseeable. But without critical thinking skills, what can you expect?
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clever!
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Sky, you make numerous excellent points. Including that while Wierwille was alive, he was making the policy. I see the inertia and autopilot at work when new splinters break away and rather than actually figure out new thinking (new light) on God's word and will, they just cannot break away from Wierwille in their minds... three and a half decades after he's gone.
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Autopilot is something humans do without conscious thought. That's what habits are. Much of what we do every day is done without conscious thought. 1.autopilot - a cognitive state in which you act without self-awareness; "she went about her chores on automatic pilot"; "too much of the writing seems to have been done on automatic pilot"; "she talked and he dozed and my mind went on autopilot" automatic pilot unconsciousness - a state lacking normal awareness of the self or environment
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Seems like a reasonable inference.
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Revival and Restoration Group: Another Coconut Monkey Trap
Rocky replied to skyrider's topic in About The Way
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I would wonder, Raymo, if you by chance might be able to show us chapter and verse what God might have said to us in the Bible about how important it is in the grand scheme of things.
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Bravo!
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Campbell seems to focus on the mythology of the "hero." Which, IMO, is all well and good but stories and myths that communicate life aren't always about a, or the, hero. They are about concepts, ideas, notions. Making the abstract more tangible. In terms of the topic of this thread, I would ask if we consider Adam, or Eve, heros?
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Socks, Did you ever take any philosophy classes in college? "Philosophy courses are different from other college courses you may have taken. Tests in philosophy require you to explain concepts in a clear and concise manner rather than to simply regurgitate information. Philosophers do not write research papers but instead write argument papers and this too can be a daunting task for those students that are unfamiliar with it." Your ability to ponder Christian/biblical concepts/notions, think them through and explain what you think about them is probably most why I enjoy reading your posts and comments. The one I quoted above included. I don't know that I would have ever come up with anything like you did but I find it quite intriguing. I see you as a philosopher of Christianity. Hopefully, that doesn't offend you. As for me, I'm inclined to look at the Bible as (you mentioned the other day) a story or rather (in my case) a collection of stories. Stories are intrinsically crucial to humanity. But not necessarily because they may or may not be factual. Greek and Roman mythology is all about communicating important stories/concepts to people even though we understand them to not be factual. That said (about how I now view the Bible), I see great value in how you explained Mickey Mouse as analog to Adam. And how you described a new(er) understanding of sin than I had thought of maybe ever. So, again, thanks for sharing your insights.
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Very much so. And every human is subject to doing so.
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For anyone who might be interested. Edx, an online platform delivering MOOCs, Massive Open Online Courses, regularly sends me email listing course offerings. Both Edx and Coursera offer many (if not most or all) of their courses for free unless you'd like an official certificate for completing each course. Today I learned that the Rochester Institute of Technology, a world renowned engineering school, is offering one they call Critical Thinking and Problem Solving. The hitch is that the class is oriented to business applications rather than the Humanities. But I have to figure there'd be at least some overlap. About this course Skip About ts course In today's business environment, organizations have identified critical thinking and problem-solving as skills that are integral to an employee's--and their organization's--success. The most successful professionals can assess the environment, analyze a situation, design a solution, and ultimately win in a competitive scenario. This course, part of the Soft Skills Professional Certificate program, will demystify, discuss, and provide application techniques for critical thinking and problem-solving in a business context. Learners will draw connections to their work experience by analyzing and critiquing case studies. Best practices for problem-solving will be discussed and illustrated including how to weigh alternative solutions, incorporate feedback from stakeholders, and how and when to start over. This course may be audited free of charge. Learners also have the opportunity to earn a verified certificate of completion. Exclusive learning opportunities such as live events hosted by subject matter experts will be available for verified learners. Learning objectives include: How to perform strategic analysis and assessment How to perceive and assess a critical need and design a tailored solution How to identify key stakeholders and ensure their needs are met How to employ adaptive problem-solving How to work through obstacles collaboratively How to analyze failure to improve future performance
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Revival and Restoration Group: Another Coconut Monkey Trap
Rocky replied to skyrider's topic in About The Way
Welcome back, John. I hope you've been well. Did you ever get any feedback on from your comment on the R&R website? Any idea how many people go there to listen to their ramblings? -
Btw, I don't watch commercial television either, but do watch YouTube, Hulu, Amazon Prime video and PBS online. I just ran into an Associated Press news story about this recently released (in France, and in French) book about an adult woman detailing her experience as a young teen (13-15 years old) having had a sexual relationship with a much older man who happens to be still alive and previously a celebrated literary star in that country. While twi excuses sexual misconduct by its clergy with adult (sometimes married) women, the interpersonal dynamics at work in the power relationships in twi weren't different from what this French author describes... at least according to what I've read in English. Here's one of the book reviews on Amazon translated into English: In 1993, Gabriel Matzneff published a book in which he recounts his adventures with young V., 13 years old when he was 50. V., this is Vanessa Springora, the very one who publishes today The Consent... The very one that, from 1986 to 1987, was Gabriel Matzneff's little victim under the complacent gaze of much of the intellectual world of the time. Bernard Pivot will shamelessly say to Matzneff during one of his shows: “You are still a kitty collector”... Here you go. Everyone knew very well that Matzneff only touched very young virgin girls or young boys aged 11 or 12... Here you go. Everyone knew he was a criminal pedo who went to Manila regularly to satisfy his little boy fantasies... Here you go. Everyone knew it, even the President of the Republic of the day... Even Vanessa Springora's own mother. Here you go. Yeah, but Gabriel Matzneff was an author, so it changed everything. Because Matzneff knew how to manipulate and seduce with words. Because he made young Vanessa believe that there was nothing wrong with the fact that a 50-year-old man had sex with a 13-year-old child. Springora uncomplacently recounts how Matzneff spotted her, seduced, isolated, submissive and ransacked her. That's the predator. Then she tells the story of how she tried to escape this grip. She tells the story of a 13-year-old girl, caught in the clutches of a most fearsome narcissistic pervert. She tells how this predator himself has carefully recounted in books published by major publishers his sexual adventures with minors... without shocking anyone, without justice interfering with them... without anyone worrying about the fate of the young victims... At my humble level, I thank Vanessa Springora for publishing this book. I thank her on behalf of all of us: the abused young girls, the hookers, the “who did not dare to speak”, the “who spoke but who were rebarred”, the “who survived”, the “who did not survive”, the “who drove away”, the “who were annihilated by a narcissistic pervert”, the “who believed” that it was all their fault ”... In short, I thank her from the bottom of my heart.