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I dunno... I get my reading glasses at the local dollar store... and pay ONLY $1.00 for a pair... they'd have to find something they could do better than the dollar stores...

I think more than one of Penworks's questions were rhetorical in nature.

Well, I suppose... but I was thinking that insight was someone else's, since I never had to deal with it while I was still involved with them...

I've had geico for a couple of years (and no complaints from me). Last spring, I was in a very minor collision which happened to be my fault... (I backed into a moving car)... I made one phone call and (except for my rates going up next time the premium was due) it was over and done with from my perspective. They WERE friendly (as indicated in the commercials) and my rates didn't increase very much.

I sorta went to college to learn about accounting... but last worked in the field (as an accountant) 10 years ago. And it's been much longer since I've had any contact with twi, so there's no chance I have any insight as to why they aren't loaning money to their 1000+ (credit union) members (according to the credit union statement). And nobody should be alarmed that the county records do not agree (in the value) with that shown on the combined balance sheet filed with the Arizona Corporation Commission. The purpose of the county records is to value them for calculation of property taxes (if not exempt) and the balance sheet reflects cost less accumulated depreciation (as previously noted, for the buildings, equipment and machinery, but NOT on the land).

Yes... I see that. The bulk of their assets are in other securities... Loans WOULD still be assets, if they did that.

Loans ARE assets on the financial statements of a credit union. For the borrower, a loan is a liability. For the lender, the loan is an asset. Accounting definition of an asset is something used in a business to generate revenue. Loans, for credit unions generate interest income. But the financial statement subject to this thread discussion does not show any credit union activity. However, some of the temporary investments might include deposits in the credit union. Btw, from the perspective of a credit union, deposits represent liabilities.

It's net of accumulated depreciation. Accumulated depreciation is listed on that statement, for Gunnison, at what appears to be about $6.94 million. Accum Depr is a way to expense the cost of an asset over its useful life. It doesn't apply to land, but does apply to buildings, machinery and equipment. Net asset (book) value does not necessarily reflect current or fair market value (FMV), which would only show up on the financial statements when a transaction (sale of the property, for example) were to take place.

Yes he did and yes I am. One game in 2007, Owings went 4 for 4 and was the winning pitcher... that was exciting.

The combined balance sheet does show the value of assets related to Gunnison broken out seperately. Indiana is NOT shown. Didn't they sell off the Rome City property? Headquarters, The Way of the USA, International Outreach and Gunnison are each shown seperately then combined on that combined balance sheet. My interpretation, without additional detail from their records, would be that any properties (in the US) owned outsite of New Knoxville (like maybe houses in Cedar Rapids or Toledo, etc) would be in the Way of the USA (except for Gunnison), any in Canada or any other country would be in the International Outreach. This filing with the Arizona Corporation Commission does NOT include a statement of revenue and expenditures/expenses. So, there is no way to clearly identify what they took in by way of ABS. It shows accrued payroll (a liability) and accrued pension liability, but no detail as to how many people are involved in those aggregate amounts. Gunnison assets ARE included with a book value (it's very difficult to read, so this is only approximate) of $3.4 million (net of accumulated depreciation on buildings, equipment and machinery). Perhaps you were looking only at the CURRENT assets, which total approx $68K. Long term assets (for Gunnison) are listed at $3,430,247.06.

To find out what each listing at the Dun and Bradstreet site means, one would have to pay money to look at the reports...

Then they should go after Micah Owings... he could be had from the Reds for a lot less than CC in free agency...

I wonder that too... especially wondering what our involvement in Vietnam would have been had he lived. I was in 4th grade at Sacred Heart (Catholic) School in Rochester, NY. It was a sunny day but we were old enough to feel the shock and sadness.

Sounds like we won't have to try...

I agree... all except for that ugly wad of 'baccy in his mouth in that last pic...

The 9th corps list? The answer is YES. Okay, I'll clarify... it starts with the initial housing list from Sept 5, 1978, has some added (who finished with the 9th but didn't start with the 9th) and also has names crossed off (those who didn't graduate). I am on the list but crossed off, because I didn't graduate.

I'm looking at a list of 9th corps and there are only two persons on it with the initials LR and both are female.

This kind of bird? Or this one? or THIS one?

I think the fires are NW of LA...

I think you DO know... I think you hit the nail on the head... of course, I'm no professional on the topic.

That takes guts! :)

Well, Webb got more than 20 wins... and Lincicum did NOT... but the Gints didn't give Timmy boy quite as much support as Webb got... Which goes hand in hand with its converse, having no hesitation calling your best friend out on a very close play...

And it IS now official for Cliff Lee. He HAS been crowned the AL Cy Young winner.

No they cannot. At the time of the Jonestown incident, the US military had bigger cargo aircraft than the C-131. These included the C-130 Hercules (equipped with 4 turboprop engines), the C-141 Starlifter (equipped with 4 jet engines), and a limited number of C-5 (at that time the world's largest cargo plane). The C-5 could carry what you claimed. But even the C-141 was substantially smaller than that. C-131 pics I believe this is comparable to TWIs Ambassador ONE aircraft.

Not to be outdone by MSNBC, CNN will air a two hour special, "Escape from Jonestown" a few times... the first of which will be 9-11pm Thursday (today already for many readers...). Thanks for the link, Excie...