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It did look like Lofton was safe... BUT, that call didn't decide the game... looked a little like a play that Dback CF Chris Young was in last week. Indeed, extreme weather IS the issue. Btw, what about Miller Park in Milwalkee (sp?) and the new stadium in Pittsburgh? I thought they have roofs. Then there's Petco in SD... RARELY would there be more than a day or so in a row with heavy enough rain to matter, and NO extreme temps... so, NO roof there. Congrats to the BoSox and their fans... mstar and bolshevic... and condolences to Lifted Up and LindaZ. Indians had a great season... and they had a more exciting league championship series than the Dbacks.

Ha! And here I've been saying for a long time now... YOUTH is wasted on the young! Btw, George, I think the BEST part of your plan is the freedom from debt! I have an extremely modest existence... but being debt free (including being done with the whole 'mortgage ' thing) makes ALL the difference in the world.

I really didn't wonder too much about you before enduring that silly animation. HOLY COW! I don't buy beef... or that might have caused nightmares!

Hap... at least you won't need anything for anxiety during or after tonight's game. I s'pose I'd also rather play baseball in 50F than 110F... but then again, that's why they have roofs!

I can't imagine ANYone would argue your point about Joe Torre.... I know I wouldn't.

Yep... the odds makers still figure it'll be the Indians... either way it should be a good series... I remember the Dbacks getting to play in Denver in the first week of a season (forget which year/years) when the snow had to be cleared from the field. BRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. :blink:

Yes, I wasn't contradicting you about when the first Denver game will be... As to stadium roofs, I would be shocked if ANY stadiums built (or substantially remodeled) henceforth were to be built without a roof. And Hap... aren't the early games in Denver usually VERY cold also?

I highlighted two things in your post. First, your question... are you foolish to... ONLY you can answer that. HOW you decide also can only be determined by you. However, I would pose a couple of questions for you to consider... In each scenario you envision, there will be numerous variables. You will NOT be able to control all of them. FOR each scenario you envision, are there possibilities, or PROBABILITIES that certain things could happen that would cause you to regret having made that decision? Again, ONLY you can answer those. Second, 30 years ago, when I was shortly out of the USAF, I took a job with what then was a major telecommunications company. I was "lucky" enough to get a job doing what I had been trained to do in the military... Most of my co-workers were as old then as I am now. At THAT time, THEY were talking about the "imminent demise" of social security. THIRTY years ago. Much has changed since then. I left that job because of TWI (wow/corpse). However, even had I stayed, THAT job became obsolete with the nearly unimaginable (then) progress/new developments in communications technology... BUT social security remains. And unless Americans find a "universal" alternative, social security will survive US. btw, things may or may not be as bad for your friend as you imagine now because of her current financial difficulties... they might be, but things could turn for her in ways she might now not even realize are possible. And I'm not talking about winning the lottery. I faced similar difficulties a couple of years ago. I HAD to file bankruptcy in order to NOT lose my house to the mortgage holder. I was able to defer any further serious action until I could sell the house for enough money to pay off the liens (two mortgages) and STILL buy a manufactured home OUTRIGHT in a retirement community... and I'm still two years younger than the normal age limit. I AM retired. I don't travel much, but DO stay active, including volunteering at a child crisis shelter. For me, I have NO regrets about choices I've been able, or had to make. Yet, I can't help but think that had I been able to start saving for retirement at a younger age, things would have been less stressful during the transition to retirement for me.

Methinks he had plenty of help tonight... how about that JD guy! :blink: Help me understand WHY there are still stadiums WITHOUT roofs!!!??? I can't imagine the weather is going to be great in Denver, Cleveland OR Boston throughout a potential 7 game series... which, IIRC, will start in the AL city.

Nail biting anyone? 4-1 Sox on a grand salami by JD Drew.

Indeed. I'm REALLY thankful that I got to see game 1, 2007 WS (a win, the game AND the series) live... I still have beany baby they gave away to everyone that went to that game!... I suppose I should photograph it and post the pic.

What is "Baseball Franchise moves"? (or something like that). I didn't do as well in that category as I should have... I think an Indians/Rockies WS would be a good one! Wouldn't that be a wunnerful b'day present?! Happy b'day LindaZ!

Indeed, hiway, you identified a distinction. Steinbrenner's classless tactic was, for him, SSDD. The end of the "Torre Era" in Yankeeville is certainly a big change.

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I'm sure you can find it by doing a google news search. However, in post #2607, I provided a link (one of many available) to a publicly available news source for that story.... the news broke everywhere other than at Greasespot before I posted it. Why in the world would you expect a Denver paper to make that a top story?

I don't remember seeing, reading or writing by anyone here about any excuses for the dbacks loss. They got beat. End of story. Another story, which I posted but NO one acknowledged, is that Bob Melvin is the NL Manager of the Year. I believe he (and his coaching staff) deserve the honor. They achieved beyond expectations.

The point you appeared to be trying to make is that the Rockies are actually younger than the Dbacks. That the Rockies are actually younger is simply, by virtue of THAT analysis, NOT true. The Rockies get the NL championship, who cares how old they are? I'm not going to correct the analysis or argue its merits. I pointed out examples of how it was faulty. If you want to hold onto it, far be it from me to oppose you. At this point, I'm just hoping for an exciting 2007 WS and a better Dbacks showing next year.

That's FAULTY analysis. I don't know who the Rockies "regulars" are or would be, but I can tell you that whoever did yours plugged in the wrong players as regulars at a couple of positions, and failed to account for the fact that, for example, Ojeda has been a journeyman minor leaguer, despite his age. His age DOES give him some depth in understanding and skill that a younger guy might not have, but he ALSO is NEW to the MLB playoffs, AND he was only a regular due to someone else's injury. I'm not going to argue it with you, just give you those examples of how that analysis is nonsense. Take it or leave it. For some reason, when I tried to edit for grammar, it wouldn't take... I meant to say that whoever did the analysis you presented plugged in the wrong Dbacks players at a couple of positions.

Oh, yes... I remember now... part of the VOOM HD channels... Adrenaline junkie sports... Naw, I don't watch it. but good action packed stuff.

I'd be with you on that... it's been a LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGG time since they've been to the BIG October show! I think a Rockies/Indians match up would be awesome. Do you think Willy Tavarez has one of those Willie Mays over the shoulder basket catches in him?

Which MIGHT just broaden his perspective on Global Warming! Btw, they changed the name of Discovery HD Theater, dropping "Discovery" because NOW all the other Discovery related channels are available in HD also... I find the Science Channel especially interesting... not to mention Meerkat Manor on Animal Planet... But also there's lot's of HD sports! Well, SHOOT... now the WS NOT in HD... well, good grief. btw, I don't even know what channel LUSH is on... if it's the FIXED NOISE CHANNEL, I (by choice, of course) don't get that one. I think he said he has DISH Network... which I also have. The channels for HD and nonHD are set up as you described ALSO on DISH. And when I moved back in 2005, I got one of those over the air antennas to clip onto my dish... however, I no longer need it because all of my local channels are now carried in HD on DISH. Just like for Livo last night... he ONLY had ONE bad inning! :blink:

Exactly!

So, rhino, did ya get yur HD upgrade installed yet? No doubt you'll enjoy baseball games more... with HD, it's BETTER than being at the game.

You pretty much boiled it down to the least common denominator. At this point, I gotta figure the Rockies are going to play better in the WS than either the Cards or Tigers did last year... and that each of two AL teams can give us a good WS matchup... And I expect Eric Byrnes is going to (and it's surely already started) hear about what may have been locker room bulletin board material for the Rockies... and hopefully he'll learn from his verbal mistakes. I believe the Dbacks have a solid core of talented players to build on for next year... I can't imagine they'll make major changes, though some tweaking would be appropriate... and just like the Tigers put additional emphasis on PFPs (pitchers' fielding practice) in the spring, the Dbacks will hopefully put some emphasis on baserunning in various situations.

NL Manager of the Year October 15, 2007 - 11:43PM D-Backs notebook: Peers pick Melvin manager of year Jack Magruder, Tribune DENVER - Bob Melvin’s peers recognized the work he did in leading the Diamondbacks to the NL West pennant this season, voting him manager of the year in balloting conducted by The Sporting News. (continued) -------- Congrats to Bob Melvin, NL Manager of the Year.