Rocky

Not related to providing any parent with any insight on how to prepare their own children for life while minimizing the child's vulnerability to cult predation. I'm getting the impression waysider that you're either trolling intentionally or just don't understand the question.

If a reader isn't interested in the actual question for discussion. There's no need to respond at all.

Really? That's all you've got? Not one thing Bolshevik has posted on this thread has been at all relevant to discussion of the question. Usurpation would be a political question. Not only is it off limits but do I need to count the number of times I have noted on the thread it's unrelated to the topic at hand. Let me reiterate the question:

If only you weren't so #%^&*#ing obtuse.

And how can parents raising their children inoculate THEIR children from cult predation? This is the essence of the question I intended to be the subject of this thread. Any ideas?

That's true, but clearly outside the scope of the topic of this thread.

Another way to state a related question might be, "WHY are humans vulnerable to cults in the first place?"

Meaningful social (acceptance) attachments where we FEEL like we're seen and heard and understood. I just don't know why this subject is so difficult.

Honestly, I don't seem to be getting through to you. It's NOT about belonging to any external group or entity. But I do appreciate realizing the participants in this discussion are somehow unable to grasp the key insight. Maybe I'll be able to figure out how to get the point across someday. Amor fati.

It's not a metaphor for anything. In case you're unable to look things up yourself, noun An extremely difficult experience or situation; a severe test or trial: synonym: trial. One (including me) would hope you would successfully emerge from the situation having had substantial emotional healing and growth. You do know I neither invited you to this discussion nor barely tolerate you, right?

I hope you emerge from the crucible in which you seem entrenched very soon.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/sense-belonging/202202/the-science-behind-our-need-belong

Now, where is that confounded MUTE button?

These words are mine: You're so far removed from me that you have no idea what I would or would not have a problem with. Therefore, the ONLY meaning the quote above can reasonably be taken to mean is the degree of projection you use.

As opposed to academic researchers?

The Science Behind Our Need to Belong Insights into the history, present, and future of belonging research. Belonging has been a hard construct for researchers to define and conceptualise because its meaning is often drawn from what predicts it or what outcomes emerge from experiencing it. It is well known that being part of something and feeling like you belong somewhere, such as in a group, feels good to most people. And while research on belonging took place before 1995, it didn't go much further than this. However, in 1995, Baumeister and Leary’s landmark paper, “The need to belong: Desire for interpersonal attachments as a fundamental human motivation,” firmly identified belonging as a universal human need, ingrained in our motivation as a species and stemming deeply from our ancestral roots. The paper resulted in a significant change in our understanding of belonging especially as it relates to our thoughts, feelings, and behaviour. Loneliness, caring for an older population, and school violence are just some of the problems people face today. Research on belonging has played an important role in responding to these problems and offers great relevance to educational psychology. Belonging significantly impacts student wellbeing, achievement behaviour, and mental health, making it a critically important topic for study. [Not to mention vulnerability to cult predation]

Btw, a better understanding of the "real world context" of sense of belonging might be found here.

It's possible you and I are not responding to each other from a common understanding of what "a sense of belonging" means. As I use it, it is ONLY an emotional condition precluding the need to FIND an outside entity/group to which you would feel the need to join in order to have the "sense of belonging." It seems, that's not necessarily the same as what you have meant. Are you able to clarify it for me?

Well, I don't agree with this point. No part of what I have suggested is at all related to codependency OR loss of individual identity. However, I recognize you're not bickering. I don't take your input as at all destructive, though it's clear we're not "getting" each other. I appreciate your input.

Clearly, you don't seem to grasp the concept of communication theory. Pointed out to me? Pointing out to me what you want me to have meant is totally meaningless.

Fine. Granting your expanded definition, it is still unrelated to the meme and the thread. I started the thread with a view and intent to consider and hopefully get discussion about what might work, or be helpful in figuring out how to inoculate young adults against the predation of cults. Got any insight on that issue? I get that it's a HUGE question. But it's NOT about raising kids to think in terms of "us vs them."

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ According to the linked website, the current world population exceeds 8 billion people. I cite this for perspective. What in the world makes you think ANYONE of those 8Billion+ people are or will be influenced by your arguments on this thread? I started the thread with a view and intent to consider and hopefully get discussion about what might work, or be helpful in figuring out how to inoculate young adults against the predation of cults. Got any insight on that issue?