JayDee

38 minutes ago, ImLikeSoConfused said:

Like with all the scandals and accusations against him.

You're at the right place to find out about the scandals and accusations. Just start looking around. 

7 minutes ago, ImLikeSoConfused said:

excuse his shortcomings

I don't know how you excuse serial rape, misogyny, bigotry, false doctrine, narcissism, etc. 

Since you asked, yes you should get rid of what's on your pc and phone. If you want to share something with someone tell them Jesus Christ loves them now and forever. You don't need a class or a syllabus for that. 

38 minutes ago, ImLikeSoConfused said:

 

I know hes sort of a fraud

 

Sort of a fraud???

2 hours ago, frank123lol said:

 

Heard Loy was teaching publicly again in Ohio

 

Please say it ain't so...please. 

2 hours ago, penworks said:

The Way International cult continues to do the same thing over and over again. 

Generally the definition of insanity eh? And they're expecting the same results! LOL!

1 hour ago, T-Bone said:

LCM was on some rant of the moment about Special Olympics and he referred to the athletes as freaks of nature…..those were his exact words.

He also called them "the devil's handiwork". Miserable S. O. B. 

3 hours ago, jim jack said:

JayDee..if you ever chose to watch any of Blake's or White's sharing...you;ll always find that they Give God the Glory...as the Lord does work thru his believers...I've  ministered to several people and always confirm to them that God is telling us to lay hands on the sick & they shall recover & do they want me to or not?? I'm am just a man..BUT I am filled with Holy Spirit which does the work..its a great arrangement God came up with..so thank you for confirming what I already know & believe...JJ ;^)

No need to thank me for something I wasn't attempting to do. You believe what you like. I've watched a lot of videos in my time and I don't find God ALWAYS getting the glory as you stated. 

Jesus is the healer. Anytime anyone's healed *he* gives the gift and should get the glory. Not a man. Not a ministry. 

40 minutes ago, jim jack said:

JayDee....then why all the many many healings..? all counterfit??

No idea. All I know is what I observed in the video you suggested. 

Sorry jim jack. That video UN-inspired me. Please, no offense. Just not my cup of coffee. At the end of the video he relates that someone asked him to pray for them because they were having surgery. He said "Why would I pray for you, you've already made up your mind"? THAT is NOT my kind of Christianity. 

No grace. No compassion. No Jesus. 

Prayers for a full recovery for both. 

Seems to me the "experience is no guarantee for truth" was one sided for vp. My experiences or your experiences were no guarantee for truth, but "his" were. The alcoholic that came to his church, the man with the paralyzed arm in India, the woman whose child was hit by a car at the bus stop, the red drapes lady, etc. All his experiences we were expected to believe as truth. 

9 hours ago, jim jack said:

Jay..I'm not really into Todd's personal life...more about what he represents to God & for God's people....don't even know who Paula White is..LOL..and probably never will know unless you fill me in....I truly enjoy people who are going after the Christ like walk despite their horrible pasts.. ;^)

I'm not either. Someone asked. I andwered. 

He wasn't married to Paula White. 

In light of Twinky's comment skyrider, I seriously doubt a response from anyone at twi is forthcoming. And why would they? We don't exist. Personna non gratta. 

Not a "follower" of Todd White, but I watch him occasionally on YouTube. Saw him in person once. Former drug addict, kicked out of the Marine Corps, got saved learning from a guy in Pennsylvania named Dan Mohler. 

By their fruit you'll know them. He loves the Lord and loves people and that's prerequisite to anything I believe. He reaches folks in a sphere of influence no one else can and I or you reach folks he can't. It's a big body of Christ. 

I imagine skyrider it's a great relief to you to talk about your experiences so freely. Thanks again for telling your story. 

1 hour ago, skyrider said:

Our boys were in shock.......confused and intervals of crying.......as we tried to explain it all.  They lost many "friends" that day !!

I'm sorry. This makes me terribly sad. Your family's pain must have been almost unbearable. 

On 9/10/2015 at 7:00 PM, Allan said:

ROA stories lol...I remember being at one, the internationals stayed in tent accommodation with the proviso, NO eating or snacking IN the tents. Fair enough, I understand the ant thing etc...so my 3 year old was sitting on the outside edge eating a cookie. Enter Mike Wh!te who was totally pi$$ed at my 3 year olds leg still being INSIDE the tent edge !! Oops, sorry sir. He moved on but was spotted hiding,peering around the edge of the tent and stood there for ten minutes til my son had finished eating...just to make sure....what's the definition of insanity again ?!

Bump

No Allan, that's the definition of an a$$h0le. 

8 hours ago, Rocky said:

Pause:  Sorry folks.  I'm going to need a couple days on this or more.  It's 2am.....and there are parts of this deprogramming experience that my repressed memory has buried so deeply, it's painful to revisit.  I have no records of those ten days.....the details are surfacing, but so are the pangs of pain in my heart.

I'm 70 years old and was in twi from 80-87. As far as I'm concerned, what you're doing here is nothing short of heroic. 

Thank you for revisiting this time in your life for our benefit. 

On 12/29/2016 at 0:13 AM, Rocky said:

That's the TRUTH! The fact that there were and are no boundaries... no respect for individuals... ensures that The Way International will die. It might be a painfully slow death, but it WILL die.

The fact that there's no understanding of nor respect for personal boundaries undercuts the entire system. That's at the ROOT of inability to adapt when it becomes obvious that doctrines/dogmas/teachings are flawed. It's at the ROOT of the practical issues that make the organization unsustainable from generation to generation.

Jesus cut to the chase when he responded to the Pharisees who asked him about the greatest commandment, in Matthew 22:36-40,

 

 

The years skyrider is writing about have been eyeopening for me. We got in in '80 and left in '87. Had no idea of the depth of depravity twi had sunk to. Knew it was bad, (which is why I got out) but didn't know how far reaching the manipulation and control had become. 

Thank you for taking your time to help me personally. 

1 hour ago, waysider said:

 

The whole "to you/for you" thing is contrived. The cannon does not reflect the chronology of when the various books were written.

 

Right waysider, "to you/for you" throws the words of Jesus Christ out the window. I'm not willing to do that anymore. I'm a Christian not a Paulian or a Peterian! 

Love what Paul and Peter and others wrote, but nobody said anything more important to me than what Jesus said. 

2 hours ago, skyrider said:

many of us, here at Greasespot Café, could easily put together wierwille's WTF-Lines.

Skyrider, that sounds like an excellent idea for a new topic! 

4 hours ago, chockfull said:

When a ministry's foundation is built upon plagiarism, conspiracy theories, purging, and an elite swingers club, no matter how much you whitewash the history, polish scriptures taught, change Power for Abundant Living to the Way of Abundance and Power, or proclaim the Word is over the World to change your theme to your own branded "Prevailing Word", the crabapple tree seeds that were sown are eventually going to show the crabapple fruit with a tree.  

Brilliant...

3 minutes ago, skyrider said:

As we continue to unravel the twisted theocracy and ideology of wierwille doctrine.......I believe that we will find that he skewed and skewered the scriptures, time and again, to manipulate and exploit his followers.  Whether it was education, career or one's family.........twi undermines the individual at every juncture.

And sadly, it still goes on.