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I still keep a calender of events . I write down when I make phone calls and to whom I spoke . I write down when I send out bills and the amount. I write down details of conversations I have with others.. maybe I fear having the forgeting disease but I tell it has helped me more than once when another questions or loses documents I have dealt with. my teen daughter never has enough clothes so when I go out and spend three or four hundred on shoes or buy a new expensive coat oh I write it down when she says this is so old I need a new one, and can say no really two months is not an outrageous time to have a coat... maybe and I will write in a time I think is more reasonable.. I raised them with this type of mini budget mind it helps avoid conflict and greed that happens when they do the mall thing in their mind. I write down when the bills will be due with reminders two and three weeks ahead.. it just makes life better for me.

Sudo I think the reason you may notice they are all very good looking is because they have focused on looking good. My son is handsome no Im not just saying that he is handsome always has been, but he doesnt know it, when we speak he is as insecure about some minor flaw as the next guy. He really doesnt know he is a 'chick magnet" . He has had to many sisters to slap him once in awhile growing up or something he may be a little afraid of woman . But these guys think they are a gift to woman , I do not think it is about the "LOOK" it is about the attitude they have towards the look they have like they are better or more deserving .

they have no cause of death, they have no evidence at all. the case was tried on circumstance ONLY. that is what is so rare about this trial if you ask me. the biggest hurt was his girl friend testifying he lied to her about not being married and the fact the bodies where found two miles away from where he claimed he was fishing the day of the murder. two hundred miles away from their home. that is one heck of a chance that the body and his fishing pad was so close yet so far away from their home the jurors didnt believe that was a chance circumstance. it is all cirsumstance you know and could be they have no evidence really. But people think he is guilty and that is why the lawyers can appeal for an unfair trial. kit abortion is legal and has been for thirty or more years, they can never prosecute those who perform a medical procedure even if the law is overturned because at the time it was perfectly legal . if the law changes a huge gapping IF at this point in the courts it does not seem likely, only after a NEW law in given to make it illegal can it be enforced and only to those who break that law at that time. this wasnt an abortion it was NOT a consentual medical procedure and that may be why they can convict in the 2nd degree.. but it will be appealed interesting case. I recently met a woman who accused her ex husband of sleeping in the same bed with his 16 year old daughter... implying sexual abuse or something ... she wanted the divorce to drag on for YEARS and YEARS to avoid paying child support.. she came up with the most outrageous accusations over and over again to keep the case in the courts and avoid paying child support. child support is ordered here in all divorce cases.. she lost her children they will not speak to her and they are older teen girls.. As Iwas speaking to this insane woman I was shaking with fear at her screams of injustice because he makes 50 thousand a year WHY shold she have to pay anything?? I couldnt believe it , her absolute rage with giving up a very small amount of money for the children..because her ex and his new girlfriend will take it.. bitter rage and out and out insanity of jealousy has blinded her to the love of her own children. she was a top notch mom stay at home did everything right type. now she accuses her own children of abusing her and has a serious restraining order to never go near them all this in just one year and all over paying child support. wow . oh I think it is possible he killed for the money , in the old days parents just disappeared when it came to the mighty buck but now with computer and laws to enforce the responsibility of a parent I do fear we may see more and more of these types of situations. scary.

WWJLA it wouldnt make a difference to me if they were christian or not. marriage does not go into eternity we have no wife or husbands when we pass on to the new life. a believing spouse does cover for the unbelieving spouse. the only issue would be in what would you decide together to teach the children about God and religon . that could cause some isssues if one had strong beliefs and the other did not want the kids to partake in the rituals or teaching of them. I have a friend , liked this friend we did well UNTILLL the day she started aksing me about God , now I said I was a christian and I know the bible some ( cough) but I did not want our discussion to go ay further in that . I do not teach the bible (my kids yes they are grown and heard it for twenty years already but only if they ask and we discuss I can not preach) I have another friend that always ofers bible study she enjoys it loves it and it has helped her get through the death of her husband this year... sometimes I will answer her question about where in the bible it may address a topic or two but I do not teach per say. I went with her to the bible study and Im going to confess. As the group very nice folks struggled to find the gospel of Mark for ten minutes I was bored ..I feel guilty so no sense in shaming me now I know Im the problem. 30 years of study did something to me.... something bad.. I have little tolerance for bible study that is not quite intese and serious. Most all ofthe bible study I have heard do like one verse or two hello jesus loves you God hears your prayer praise and wow that was a good time for all... so I do not partake I am racist or somethingin bible study. shame on me. so in the content of being unequal with those who do not believe that for me includes alot of christians as well. big topic like the mystery of christ , you know all the doctrines we know or think we know. Im unequal I would say 90 % of the time and certainly do not need to go to a hour long fellowship and begin with the basics all over again. so with those I love I do not discuss for the most part unless they ask and then only from a position of what I have learned for me. it just does not matter.. to me if someone thinks God loves them or not . my kids witness Gods love to ME and they often remind me of the grace we have seen as a family they must have heard that growing up and sometimes I will offer to pray for someone or tell thme God will help us make it through but my friends are bascialy just my friends now . folks who want to spend time doing things together and enjoying conversations about life other than God almighty. I think it is more real this way.

just that I do not know what motivates jeff to post jal teachings on grease spot. I guess Im saying I understand why he doesnt want to engage in a discussion from his shoes it may not be worth his time . his focus is on teaching those who want to hear what he offers . also I think they are convinced they are right in everything they teach and do not want to discuss other ideas with people that may not be willingly to learn their ideas.

Stopping an antibiotic is judgement call. I will tell you this I bought the insanity with my first child and she did get resistant by the age of nine.. ear infections strep etc... Oh I finished the course. then we got smart . four additional children all over 18 now and none not one has EVER been anitbiotic EVER . Now my son had a bone infection after he crushed his finger in a car door. We gave him two pills for it to heal faster.... did they get sick? oh yes sometimes nigh unto death but never the hospital or and never antibiotic I frankly do not believe in them... for normal childhood illness even serious fever. but our dr. has balls and is an expert and we are good friends mydaughter had a fever of 105 and had a seizure he always remained calm I telephoned him we talked I felt better the next day the kid was outside playing. that is me and trusting God and our much loved family DR. he was my dr and their fathers dr as children as well so he knew our "history" i would say. what others do is up to them . we do not do antibiotics. or any meds really . never have and probably never will. I am past middle age and take no meds... no high blood pressure blah blah we are just blessed I thank God.

I know about the mutations I know about the super strep blah blah blah these huge virus are a concern and are because antibiotics where given to children starting at a very young age when day care began amass and would not allow a fever child unless they had a prescription. word. today my very very large peds office will not give antibiotics for ear infections which clear up within their own self years ago twenty or so they did and found out it really never did decrease the incident of fluid in the ears... yet it appeased the working mothers who needed day care. it was a quick fix for many that appeared to work well. these mutation are due to the ANTIBIOTICs and the resistance many have today is because the virus that should have been fought by a natural body was given a dose of steroids to fight so fight they did and mutate. if you feel like living in a world where you demand your child not be ill or suffer from a virus PLENTY of dr. will still go with the old plan... but the ones who realize the impact on how these common illnesses where handled and what has happened because of the increase and overuse of antibiotics causing super virus and mutations who are willing to stop the insanity will tell you no. and they may lose the parents who do not want to deal with a sick child or lost days at work etc. times have changed I go with a very very progressive practice that is top adminstrators for the largest teaching hospital in the United States. But if a parent his own life and this is stressing me out blah blah blah DO SOMETHING and will probably sue for malpractice for a natural course of events in illness.. then here take this for ten days the kid will get better and you will be satisfied. till three or two week later the baby gets another illness and you demand a solution and then one day find the kid just keeps getting sick.. and needing the medicine...they need it to get better and they need it for TEN days !!! and next time they may need a bigger medicine and it has begun the depency on antibiotics.. because of the mutations the resistance and the inability with the child or the parent to cope. whatever you chose . of course they do not tell you this unless you have an excellent trusting relationship and few with a new baby have this going on sadly and are stressed and worried.. and the new young dr. are not willing to risk malpractice.

great point. the idea of self seems wrong to some who claim Jesus as Lord. He shall increase I am to decrease verbage and all . yeT God as a creator says humans are wonderful and in his image... For God so loved the world he gave .... I am a part of this world .. The age old struggle of who I am can and has at times got so caught up in the most religous world we live in I am able to deny my own self. I can get so head strong about what ideals I do suppose Jesus or God may dictate that I forget me. YET their love is all about me. simply love. it is fun I suppose at times to go about with the party of religous works even if it does feed your ego till your satisfied , indeed forgive at all cost yet inside pray to God almighty with a rage they may get hit by a wayward truck or a train that has slipped off the track to their face.. maybe even a vision if the hurt is strong enough! oh hell yes I have seen this myself! I try to be honest. I try to be honest if not with anyone eles to myself. can somone say to me clearly well that is not very christ like thinking shame on me? many times I suppose again on any given day. but I can not deny God knows me even if I do not know myself... i try different things to come home and inform my own Father well that didnt work out very well. I wonder how many time Jesus laughs out loud at my own attempts at fooling me or the world but never HIM in the quiet hours of who I really am. I found out the LORD understands me, even if He never did partake in much of the foolishness and sin I have He gets why I went to that particular situation instead of trusting Him. because Im me. So if he in His glory can admit to loving me still I do suppose I also will find my own self worthy of His love. He is MY own best friend cant lie to the dude , and how many more times will He wait for me to understand it is all about me the whole story of redemption all of what He did was for me the sinner. I am thankful enough to be able to say thank YOU for an eternity. he didnt save me when I was at peace and full of spirit and able to change the world , He is here now helping me because frankly I admit I need it. I must be worth something , even if it is just to love Him back sometimes or others who need Him as well. So I carry on full of being a child trying to understand how to grow up. just me. and I am wonderfully made so says God almighty.

YIPPPPEEEEEE! YA HOOO wooopie and congrats. and a few years shy of the college years to BOOT!!!! yeah good for you hooray ! nice time of year to see it done. back in the day I remeber the kid peed in the store in his pants and froze till we got home so I suggest for the next couple of months ya know the cold makes ya want to go sometimes carry an extra set of pants just in case. accidents can still happen or sometimes I just wouldnt allow their little fanny to sit on THAT particular public toilet when traveling etc. also during the holidays we all run around alot more and wait in line alot more and time get rushed and crazy and little ones get tired and fall asleep and wake up having to pee when your in a parking lot trying to find the car in a snowstrom with a 1100 bags of xmas stuff. and and and ya hear I got to go potty and hang on a minute isnt going to work right now. well just in case keep an extra set in the car or whatever.. I am now putting one in for myself . hehehe just in case. my son was potty trained very well untill the day his pants froze in the parking lot trying to find the freaking car at the mall. well after that he thought he had to pee every time he felt a breeze and fussed about going shopping.

it is about money . medicine in often practiced by folks who have a real concern about law suits today. better safe than sorry. they do not need to see you and write a new script it is often to document in case someone decides to sue. I am so happy we have had our dr. for three gnerations now the practice knows us and we them alot can be done over the phone and sometimes with what was prescribed for another illness because we care and trust one another. ya know how a new dr. will say "take all the medicine even if you feel better"! pfffgh . not me nor my kids. you know how they need to do a test to confirm strep? pffgh my dr. would give me a script over the phone in the middle of the night. but this kind of relationship is rare today with the rising law suits and blame games and big money involved in the medical field today. all consumers need to be aware and educated to take the best care and responsibility for their health. I have a family member who goes to this idot dr. he has been treated for a ear infection for 3 years it keeps coming back.. and they keep giving him the same medicine every dam time 3 years I would think it is time for a change of drs. but no the guy is going deaf yet the dr. knows best! geez. A patient need to go with what they are comfortable with. I would say to everyone I know talk to your dr. about issues. BUT I would also say use your own brain in making decisions.

Wordwolf. I do not claim to know jeff motives, I have no clue. But the ego of John and Mark and John S. has been well defined for many years. They think they have the SOLUTION! and can not be talked out of what they think even if they do get fired and divorced and a whole butch of discussion or agruement. they are so full of what they know to be right they can NOT see the forest through the tree. really they can not . In my opinion they are very much worse than twi in the area, they claim a more improved "word of God". an entire life has been spent trying to convince themselves what they do is NOBLE and demand loyalty in a much grander scale than twi ever ever did. but it is suble and it is sly and it is effective. those not interested in what they have to offer can go straight to hell and they would give the first kick on your way if you even try to question their "heart" what the hell again I HATE that word who really knows anothers inner most thoughts other than God hmm? what a joke the I love you from John LYnn to strangers he clearly doesnt have time of day for unless it is on his turf and his conditions and his words. LOOK they have a budding and building empire to run and if you get in their way make a stumble block cause division in the body of christ they are well versed and trained in just how to get you away from their plan and goals. and now where you going huh? no where eles has that "word". they are indeed a bigger and better twi. with the ego and the conditional love and the dismissing of anyone who disagrees with anything they have claimed as their own truth. they have lovers more devoted than twi ever did as well, ya know the drama so many faced with the falling of the first empire destroyed so many lifes and here these three scrap through the rumble and saved them these folks have no where eles to go and truly look at spirit and truth as their Saviour . ever see a star track show when a borg gets disconnected? honestly it is ugly and frightening, no one to tell them what to do how to think , etc. well John feels he gave them back the life line to hope and to many he did just that . thye are so much loyal to them than twi . it is all he needs it is all they need , anything eles is just a waste of their breath.

does God hold his children accountable? or do we? I can not change any other person I can only change my own mind about the situation . that is forgivness to me. who can force or exhort forgivness? it would be a lie at best if attempted. forgivness comes from the inside of a person and really can not be faked if YOUR HONEST . if your a liar and just want to get along with the group I suppose people can say whatever they think is needed to please others. Im talking about genuine forgivness . not forced not said because you want to make friends and influence people . Jesus forgave us out of a genuine LOVE for us and His father. he recieved the gift of torture and death for that Love and forgivness. yet God Honors our Love and forgivness as he did His . it is what changes the world . it is real . it is a choice.

stand and fight the evil of mankind? not my job and it has already been when Jesus descended into the grave and took them captive. the Christ of mankind has defeated this enemy , the stand you speak of would be for His Lordship , and that is the one body , the church. the bible truths which include loving and forgiving one another as He loves US that is "the stand". WE are to stand up for the truth of the bible. not picking at humans who have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Your stand is what exactly ? one of pointing a large finger of condemation at sinners? oh ok . I will get in line for your stand. hahaaahaha

everyone is a really strong word . I doubt martindale cares what people think. and those still in twi really could care less. they have their own world and it isnt "of" this one. the more somone speaks evil of anyone the more they can and do point a finger right back at the facts of what christian doctrine states. and the internet is a hide out it sure isnt face to face as it is to be biblicly done . A great deal of the folks that post here had determined twi doctrine was not for them or thrown out for various reasons. I will tell you I believe what the bible states as truth is one thing. speaking evil of what twi is to you is another and I surly seperate the two as do many people. so did vpw at least in his teachings.

If that is the case Rascal then I think God loves vpw and martindale and everyone just the same. I do not think anyone earned their way into the kingdom I think Jesus christ did. that is so twi.. oh they will pay for hurting like you are able to sic God on another one of His own children someday. (Ifind this to be evil and gross) it isnt about flesh Rascal it is about spirits. WE do not fight flesh and blood we fight an enemy of thoughts in our mind one of which is the religous one of being so self righteous another needs to die . hence the cruxifying of the ONLY perfect Son of God. If I had to live in a world where I was so filled with bitterness and hate I thought about how another child of God is going to suffer and pay for hurting me , and made it my mission in life , I wouldnt want to see another day. But thank God I do not live in that world I know the very grace of God is granted to All today by the shed blood of Gods Holy Son, and all things will work together for good and someday we will all live together agin in peace and love with HIM and God. it is a choice.

again with the thinking do a word study on the word repent Rascal and that is all it truly means in the bible . to change your mind , and be forgiven . I can not claim to know anyones "heart" what the hell kind of term is that? where did ya learn that? oh ok. if your are using a twi term here which I suppose you are I will supose you mean a person inner most thoughts / their definition. no one really knows anothers inner thoughts Rascal except God. no one. we have all been led astray . the liars of the world do not reveal their inner most thoughts by a long shot for sure. I do forgive I forgive because I have been forgiven and some day down the line God forbid I may need it again untill we are all made perfect I suppose everyone might. so I forgive knowing I have been forgiven and can freely ask for it again. From those I love for those I do not love. it is a staple of a sane society . or we can all have our hands on the hips and shout at one another the wrongs each has done and never ever have any peace or love in our life. it is a choice . I do not wait till somone asks for forgivness some can never pay for the hurt they cause my life but I can continue to ask God to bless their life and my own with peace and safety and love and all the goodness of having a LORD brings. I have hurt others we all have been guilty of misunderstanding and pain towards others I want forgivness so I give it .

I am probably the last person on the face of this earth to speak for John Lynn that being said I will add in his defense. CES spirit and truth fellowship is John Lynns lifes work, not to metion the scores of work he did in twi. He is a teacher. he has spent his entire life teaching and researching and looking at life by what the bible says. he has worked very long and very hard at what he considered the only thing that will ever truly help him or anyone eles. the bible is his master plan for any human in his eyes Im convinced of that. slap in grease spot cafe. not exactly his areana , he does speak to unbelievers, he goes out of this counrty and starts fellowhsips.. for those who have ears to hear. those who want to hear him teach. He considers himself a teacher and if no one want to study his class or materials he can not really play. it is his job. it is like asking a guy who mows lawn for a living to set up shop in the desert if you ask me. or its like working for 50 years on baking a cake and having the birthday child say I want pie instead. it would be far to frustrating to him, he wants to help people and I know he loves people , yet the quirky thing about john LYNN is he has always truly believed the answer are in the bible lesson he has learned and so much want to tell others. he would not force his beliefs on anyone so what is the use of even having a voice here if all anyone wanted to do is agrue? I really do trust John Lynn would win if it was only about chapter and verse Lord knows the man knows it better than most. so he gracefully offers his website for the answers some may seek , and his phone # for any personal issues he may help with . I respect his position, life is only so long and if the color pink floats your boat in life why sit in a blue room with purple lovers ?

ok do not twist the words here to be a victim Rascal I never said any such thing nor was vpw or lcm ever charged with rape. do not get so excited you have to lie or warp what someone said or did into what you may think only. you truly make your own testimony invalid .

Repent means to change your mind. how many times can a person change their mind about something? I can not claim to know what a man or woman really thinks in his mind,we often are surprised by the fact no one really knows all yet God can and does. hence He is the one who forgives. whitedove right on the fact common sense is the reason Jesus really couldnt witness to his home town very well. common sense told them who He was to them, just a carpeners son. We have a spirt as well that protects and guides for that very purpose in life other wise How would we know? to protect is not license to hurtor destroy another another.

Rascal no one "requires" you to do anything it is in your head that it is all about you Rascal. it is only a discussion board,no ulterior motives and no one wants to control you. catcup just asked you to stop lying and twisting words said by another, and I have asked you to answer your own question regarding scripture which you fail to do. yet you chose to use scripture as a base line of your stance of knowing what is truth. the manner in which you write it is all about a "we" "we" this "we" that um excuse I am not a "we" and niether is anyone eles here that can consider their own self seperate from a cult. whether physicaly or mentaly when you leave a cult the "we" part goes away . but for you it has not and may never you tend to need it and rely on it alot. clearly rascal no one wants to shut you up , yet you claim being a victim of such . "maybe that is the consequence of livingan amoral life style.. maybe exposure of their true nature and spirtual degredation is cnsidered the vengeance of God" their "good" name forever immortalised in the annuals of history as the calloused cruel abuser of the innocents that they were" that is a quote form you .. this is YOUR MISSion from god your goal your reason for being here your attention. funny God is so far removed from anything in that paragraph it makes the whole things pitiful and really shows who YOU are. God loves you Rascal and He loves all the time. God isnt using you and will never use anyone but to care and love one another. Vengence with as much as the anger and venom inside you from a misery no one can guess does not belong to you it belongs to the LORD Jesus christ. We are commanded to love. but you have your own little mission and it doesnt matter to you much in the same way what people thought or said mattered little to VPW as he often taught . If you wnat to use the bible as a base line for your mission from god then you must answer to what it says. but you do not want to do that at all even when it is clearly given to you , you then attack and twist and lie about the other posters and engage your peers for support. anything to avoid what the written word really says. I certainly would never want you to shut up Rascal everyone of us will account for every word out of our mouth some day and the Vengence you long for and think is what your hateful posts are doing will INDEED be here In HIS loving and Justice .

the ages of consent vary in the state for marriage and ALSO for consentual sex. IN NY you can legaly have sex at the age of seventeen . YOU have the right of CONSENT to sex. at 16 or any other age it is assumed illegal(for the one having sex with you hence the coin "jail bait") regardless of how the 16 or under feels about it. the state presses the charge. it is sexual abuse of a minor child . this is the law for both male and female. it isnt illegal for a minor o have sex it is illegal for a person 18 years and older to have sex with a minor. because the law states a minor is NOT allowed to consent . they can have sex with other minors and they can have sex with a person over 18 but the peron 18 or older can be charged with a crime. Rape is a different charge all together. In NY you can not legaly marry untill your 18 . you can not purchase a license or file a license to marry in NY untill BOTH are 18 unless a parent gets permission from the court to allow the minor child to marry. I suppose the money aspect of who is paying for these kids plays a large part of why the state needs to know and get involved. In NY a parent is financial responsibile for a child till they reach the age of 21 regardless if they live at home or not UNLESS they are married which is a legal contract as well. the state is concerned a teen would get married and then unable to maintain a proper household and end up asking the state for money . Incest is a whole different story all together many times even today incest is treated as a mental health family issues and dealt with in the family courts with conseling for the entire family as it is a mental health issue and a dysfunctional family issue as is most child abuse. the family courts focus is to keep the family together and repair the cycles that generate from these mental health issues such as incest. This is why foster care is sometimes needed while a family works on these issues , not just the evil man who had sex with the child every family meber now has the learned patterns and behaviours of the mental disease and more than likely will carry into their own families . many incest victims stay within the family it is the goal of the court to "help" the situation by conseling and other interventions. ONLY IN very extreme cases with other conditions such as maybe drug use or physical abuse as well is a child removed for any length of time for just sexual abuse. IT is considered a mental health issue within the family and addressed as such for remedy. Yes some are also charged in criminal court it is a seperate court, and how the family works with the conseling and the family court system ( how much money and what type of lawyer you may have being a big factor) can influence how the charges are levied if at all.

I would work 12 to 17 hours a day with four teens in the house.

sorry to bust your pompous arrogant bubble Rascal but the last I checked your not the queeens voice for grease spot.

Amen I always loved cats. these two dominate and control nearly the entire board. We know all of their life , every addictive and nasty detail . they beg for pity and are the nastiest in the lot if anyone dares cross their power be warned they can and do get away with alot more than personal attacks . so here is mine this forum is their friend sitting on their butts dreaming of having a life. but because they are safe and never to be accountable they love this place. they leave a bad stink in the very purpose of GS cafe with their constant fights and ranting of which they only have their opinion and thinking to back up for any kind of proof. neither one can speak with any inteligence about scripture yet they will agrue it to the bone and have wearied many a traveling through. if they are met with intellience and someone who DARES they will tag team attack and call in reinenforcements if needed e-mail speed dial and private topics are normal for these two. both speak evil of their own families and spouses they will stop at nothing for the throne . you can have it girly girls. Maybe a litle time for excersize for your problem cool or some of that more precious mommy time could benefit you two instead of the countless hours you two stay on this site. some advice for the ones who know it all.

What is the secret why are som 'groomed' for abuse and some not oh wise cool waters? how is it molesters can pick and chose the "right" families often for years of abuse hmm? The danger is in not being honest and not facing truth IT IS A CYCLE coolwaters a cycle repeats itself . it is dysfunction within a family it is learned behaviour. it is how some learn to love. it isnt oh poor me loook look I got hurt it is a much deeper long lasting abiding serious emotional scar given to a child by those he loves with a pure heart and trusts. it is who you learn to trust and love deep deep inside where no voice can be spoken. it includes child molesters and those who love them.... my wise old daughter said the other day we are trained to ignore our voice as woman in society to not ride agaisnt a man and his power. But we do not have to be silent nor do we have to be victims forever or use another to have a voice. but somhow it is the only way some can ever be heard . pity.