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I can forgive I feel I should and I chose to 7 times 70 , but Lifted remeber when he tells the disciples if a person doesnt greet you the first or second time , then be done with them. this is all about setting boundaries in life do not allow people to use you..it is very biblical. jesus was not a doormat for people in fact at times his impatience with the human condition and complaints compelled him to complain to them, call them names, and bitch them out with truth. when every one was weeping for the death of Lazaris and Mary out right bitched that if had the shown up earlier implying if he really loved them he would have, none of this would have happened in other words she blamed Jesus for the situation. did he say oh Im so sorry Mary what a bad messiah I am, shame on me let me make it up to you and or other guilt ridden comments? no He got smart with his mouth and snapped at her and said Im glad Im not the one who died , with all your unbelief. he insulted her or gave her the truth on a silver platter he did NOT coward to her whiny accusations he forgave her and of course raised him from the dead. he didnt allow others to abuse him verbaly or in any way intimidate him as a man . the think we can and should apply the same truths to our own life and how we forgive others. God loves us because we are wonderfully made in His image, we must believe it about ourself before we can truly believe God said so. I have a relative who can at times call me names, it has gotten to a point where I just have to raise my hand and he will stop. His environment encourages name calling and insult to one another , I will not allow it in my life and I do love the guy , but he isnt allowed to call me names even unknowingly . I forgive him when he stops I have worked with him on why he feels this is needed he doesnt realize it hurts another i truly believe that. I forgive him but this relationship takes work to set up where each can communicate well and in a healthy manner as does every good relationship ESP if God is in it.

Raf so what you saying is what vpw taught as well it is like seed once planted holy or evil it is to stay and can not be removed. I thought the question was about unforgivable sin. Your saying a person with spirit can not do the unforgivable sin right? only a person of the "flesh". so do you believe if they do the unforgivabole sin (WHAT IS IT?) they can not have holy spirit ever. define how to get the unforgivable sin please. do you think it is accepting satan as lord or what?

In nearly everything in life for the last few grown up years I say if it is to complicated for me to understand after the first couple of tries I give up my time isnt worth it. then someday down the road of time I see the answer clearly and easily and if not I forgot about what ever frustrated me. getting old I suppose.

no it is a wonder and a joy Im certain she is wise enough to have those types of circumstances covered. Mom will most probably die before these children have a chance to have children esp. if they follow her lead. do you think they might want family for their children my own family five generations is priceless. also as grown up able to sperate and it does take through the twenties at least to fully realize self has anyone considered they may indeed wonder who their "real" parents may be biological ? She may or may not have this information for them many donors do it for the money without disclosure of this information. if this increases in popularity I think these and other issues may indeed be very real some day. Rascal relax it isnt about you being rabid at me once again no one is slamming out of the country adoptions , they are what they are. I agree johniam it takes all types of families to raise a free country, I loved it when my kids got old enough to notice every family is different yet able to contribute to the community in their own manner.

I am more sensitive to the area I sense failure in. sometimes more than any other. I often hear your being to hard on yourself from others. a bad choice is just that Satori a bad choice. and I do suffer the consequences and I do not like it, I wish it wasnt so. hence when I suffer I feel I have no reason other then my own error. for one area I will say it has taken a life time... 20 or more years before I would even speak of it..and then I did to a perfect stranger in my life. now that is is heavy guilt right? yes it changed me and weighed me down. shame and guilt can have very long lasting effect . one can learn of it before they know what it is that burdens them. I know of this "general unworthiness" you speak of, I have seen it within many women who adhere to the culture in which a womans role is to cater to men and children at the cost of self. We are rewarded in a sense of deeming men and children more worthy than our own happiness or desires . I think the sin consciousness comes from the fight with evil and goodness I truly try to believe God made me good and wonderful , as He states, but plenty of people use what they consider as goodness and rightness as the measure for another and it hurts on the path of being happy if you let it. because basicly all folks want is to be loved and accepted and to be yourself mistakes and all takes forgivness of self to survive, and forgivness of self takes self awareness of maybe being different than others.

it truly is something. She spent 60 years doing what she wanted in life so I do suppose she is ready to settle down and focus on parenting without to many distractions for sure. My children went to school with some girls mom was in her forties and dad well he looked like he was at least in his mid sixties. We had them over some, but it was kind of weird and Im an adult I wonder how children looked at it. they didnt "get" alot of what the children where doing , which may have been a good thing . they seem like a nice family, the girls are grown now, and she is taking care of him I see her outside with her hubby walking sometimes. he looks like her father honestly. but love is love .

Im bare foot. Yes the increase in the number of out of country adoptions are a biproduct of this education and laws put into place concerning adoption in America. have money buy any country baby ya want, but in america it can be long difficult process with very strict rules, we are accountable . Today we have very very good infertility treatments and adoptions is rarely the only answer, with test tube babies readily available and often now covered by insurance. if you have the money to adopt outside of this country then you have the resource to get the fertility available in todays medical procedures. So the trend has decreased alot naturaly.

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in the 60's and seventies it was niffty novel idea for white folks from the subarbs to adopt Africa american children. bring them into their world and love them as their own children. it was a bright idea and saved many alot of trouble of having their own in the decade of prggress for women and civil rights. this kids did not do well although given every advatnage possible in life they often reported feeling lost and empty and without roots as adults. many sought drugs and criminal behaviour . We as a society learned from this , and now every effort is made for a child to be raised by his own natural culture and race. I think lessons will be learned from this new idea as well.

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he cracks me up . I wont gush about him suffice to say he is my good buddy. he either gets nervous and Im frightening him or he is dancing . I think he is dancing cause he only does it with a top notch dance tune and only when I start to wiggle my own butt. he is very cute . he knows I adore him .

41 is a far cry from 57 wafer not. they were not her eggs and a donated sperm. the legal implications alone are intense .

Oh I have children and we all live in the same town and I have grands . Im very blessed thank you. My God gave his only Son not I . He wouldnt ever ask me maybe Abraham but He dint did he? I do not Think the truth of the scriptures take away our ability to love they make a family whole and well and blessed. it isnt a either or thing at all. why would any person who knows the love of God not love his own family ? Your ex may have problems. but I do think it is a good thing when people can control their own life. I know god says a man is blessed when he has a quiver full of children ect. many scriptures brag on family and having children be fruitful and mutiply etc. the mystery truly does live within the family.

By Arthur Caplan, Ph.D. COMMENTARY MSNBC Updated: 9:22 p.m. ET Nov. 10, 2004 Aleta St. James is the latest celebrity to enter the "Are you ever too old to have a baby?" sweepstakes. St. James is a singer and self-described "healer" with lots of Hollywood clients. She is also the sister of Curtis Sliwa, the New York radio personality who founded the crime-fighting group the Guardian Angels. morning, three days shy of her 57th birthday, she gave birth to twins — a boy and a girl — at Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York City. The babies were delivered by Caesarean section. Born three weeks premature, they were taken to the neonatal nursery where both were reported to be doing well. St. James is not married. She used an egg made available by a stranger and sperm reportedly donated by a former boyfriend to achieve the pregnancy. In response to media questions about why she had decided to have children at age 57 she responded, "It is never too late. You are never too old. It is just in your mind." The doctors to whom she paid more than $25,000 for the treatments that resulted in her pregnancy apparently did not think she was too old. And her family, as well as a gaggle of reporters, deemed her upbeat answer (in addition to her healing work, St. James is a motivational speaker) a more-than-sufficient response. Her father, who is well into his '80s, said that he now has two big reasons to want to keep on living. What it means to be an older parent But is it really the case that it's never too late and that you are never too old to parent? It is hard to even raise this question without seeming like a moral busybody. What right does anyone have to challenge the reproductive decisions of another person? But, that line of argument is simply wrong-headed. If decisions as important as when to have children are not open to ethical comment and discussion, then what is worthy of ethical analysis — decisions about what color to paint the living room? I have a lot of doubts about St. James’ decision. I also have a lot of doubts about the wisdom of the doctors who decided to help a 57-year-old woman have twins. Let's think for a minute about what it means to have twins at 57. What it means is that when your twins are about to enter high school, say at the age of 14, you are 71. Now I know that there are many grandparents who have successfully raised kids when the children's own parents could not. But it is one thing for two older people to deal with a difficult situation and make the best of it. It is quite different to deliberately create a situation where a single, 71-year-old parent who has been eligible for Medicare for seven years must deal with twins entering both puberty and high school. If you talk to children of older parents, most will tell you that they worried quite a bit about whether their parents would live to see them graduate from high school. Others will tell you that as much as they loved their parents they missed having someone who could do all the physically demanding things that younger parents can do. Putting aside the proven risks to babies and mothers when women over 40 attempt childbirth, is it really all that nuts to suggest that 57 is just too old to start raising two children by yourself? The doctors who agreed to help St. James become pregnant dismissed such worries about her age. They said no one complains when an older man, say a Tony Randall or a Clint Eastwood or a Strom Thurmond, has a baby. Notice, however, that two of these men have died since creating a baby very late in life. Is that good for the child? Sending the wrong message In addition, there is a special problem created when an older, single woman has twins. When old men have babies they usually do so with much younger wives, so at least one parent will be present if the father dies. There may be no one around to be the parent if an older woman gets sick, becomes disabled or worse, dies. SPECIAL REPORT This is why most nations, which have laws governing the use of reproductive technology, would not have allowed a 57-year-old single mom to become pregnant. This is why adoption agencies view requests from people who are single and much older with wariness. And this is why the ethics guidelines of the American Society for Reproductive Medicine discourage what the doctors in this case have done. St. James said that it is never too late to have a child. And the miracles of reproductive technology do appear to support her statement. The parade of fifty-something celebrity moms who proclaim their pregnancies on the morning talk shows could give any young woman the impression that there is no rush to reproduce because medical technology can bail them out if need be. But this is simply not true. St. James had to use donor sperm and an egg, which was "donated" but more accurately bought from an anonymous stranger. The doctors could not create a baby biologically related to her but instead used reproductive technology to achieve what is in effect a new form of adoption. Adoption is a wonderful thing but many people want to have a genetic relationship with their children if possible and that is not something that today’s reproductive technology can do for women in their fifties and older. It is not true that it is never too late to have your own biological baby and younger women need to understand that fact. A legal minefield Keep in mind, too, that when donor sperm and eggs are used a potential legal minefield is created. If either the source of the sperm or the eggs decides to assert parental rights over St. James’ twins they will likely be successful. A court in Erie, Pa., has just ruled that a woman hired by a single man as a surrogate mother has just such a right. At any time in the lives of the children the person who supplied the sperm may try to enter into St. James life. And despite the anonymity of the person who supplied the egg, she might be able to litigate her way to an answer should she ever decide to find out who has "her" baby. Or, St. James’ children may decide at some point that they want to know, just as more and more adopted children do, who their biological parents are. Courts traditionally show little respect for anonymity in the face of such requests. Watching a new family come into being is a wonderful thing, but let’s not kid ourselves. The new reproductive technologies raise a lot of difficult ethical questions for patients and doctors about who should use them, why and when. Society needs to be sure that as we stand in amazement watching medicine circumvent nature’s reproductive limits, nothing is done to put the best interests of the children that are created at risk. Arthur Caplan is director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania. When they turn twenty she will be 77 years old. I think she is being selfish a single mom to boot. what do you think?

I wouldnt kill my children but if it was betwen the truth of the bible or having children I would chose the scripture. it was written odd. Im saying it is a very dear thing to me as dear as my children are and in the importance for mankind and helping others and changing the world the bible sure is a more sure bet in life . nothing about giving up my kids or being a brute or any other twists you people want to put in it. thankfully God loves children and that is why he created mankind in the first place so the choice would never be as such. the bible is just as important to me as my children if not more, that is not to trade one for the other i am so blessed I can have both !

nah I like shopping and buying stuff for my kids all the time. I do think purchases and buying new clothes and stuff helps open communication in teens hell yeah it even works for me and my mom sometimes. who says ya cant buy love? bologny it keeps the conversations open yes it does till they get old enough not to be in their own little worlds. if I had the money I would buy evrything my kids and now grands ever wanted and needed every single day. I believe in spoiling everyone. we never had alot but what I work for is them for sure.

this morning I was listening to some bad company and Leonard Skynard and I was dancing around the house . the cat joined me. he walks up to me when I dance and starts shaking his head and wiggling around . from room to room we go around dancing. doesn your do this? did I traumatize the beast somehow? it is funny to do and funny to watch. He only dances to rock and roll and southern rock really. haha heehe Im serious . so anywyas I tried to put this in the silly but it will not alow me to. think this is rough the other cat watches TV and has a certain place on the couch to see it.

When Im "distraught" the scriptures is what brings me relieve . I never "pounded" scripture , nor have I been "pounded" . In my hearts of hearts it does not make a difference to me if somone choses to believe what the bible says or not.. I love because I am loved.

it is easy for us to say this ya know a good share of us has spent how many years in study . now. consider a person who loves God yet really doesnt know what the bible may offer for a solution or a answer or the story, what ever term you want to describe this knowledge many here at grease spot assume . will I ever see my mom who died again? am I being punished by God for something wrong I did? do I need to go to church to pray? for God to hear me? does God love and trust the Minister more than me? of course Im not addressing those here who reject God . it doesnt matter to you. Im talking to those who have recieved comfort and joy from the scripture . I would NEVER trade my knowledge of what the scripture says for anything even my own children.. no I wouldnt. it is a life blood to me it is serious life style.. it is the peae I have within. sure I know christ teaches and we have Holy spirit that is nice but how did ya learn about that holy spirit hmmm? your bought the ticket from somwhere.. do I think knowledge of scripture is needed? YES. for what is each persons determination and choice but Im convinced it is the only doctrine that has lasted thousands of years for a reason. and the reason is big. I truly believe when Im the one trying to explain to somone how they will see their loved one again in the kingdom, or so racked with guilt and shame they can no longer pray to a God who loves them it is the VERY words He has written that heals their broken heart. I seldom agrue scripture I find it ironic those who want it discussed and rehashed and investigated the most here on Grease spot can also be the very ones who do not think it may be all that defined. to me it truly is like life or death. I ask you to go speak to someone who is in need of God , who doesnt know what the bible may have for answers who asks YOU to help them. what do you say? YOUR life experience? maybe a couple of chapter and verse stories of deliverence to a better life or hope but make sure you say it may be a lie or written poorly.. some help you are. we who have fallen from the cult take the bible on the wrong path of academics and strife and competition of who knows what that is so twi. the bible gives life and hope and peace and the greastest story ever known to mankind. it is HIS story and IM sticking to it.

you have the snow . they have the dead bodies. how did the snow get there? who killed lacie? they have is the daming testimony on the girlfriend that he lies and his slimy phone calls while looking for his wife about being in Paris. and the proximity of the bodies to where he was fishing . maybe he should go to prison for stupid . two years is one LOOOONG trial tho.

ok then one can repent from the unforgivable sin by your thinking Evan . that doesnt make alot of sense. not truly unforgivable then is it?

Satori if a person does not know who they are , how can they know what a God is? Satori wow that is exactly what I had to do to myself recently oh man was i trying to blame everyone under the sun for a chice I made that was impulsive and follish and costly to me and my family. well if she wasnt soo well if they would have only well what about the time.... bottom line I made a bad choice and suffered for it . and then it felt worse of all.. I thought I couldnt recover from the anger at my self. then I said mj412 move on your an idiot and in cases like these in life God had better come in handy . hopefully.

that is frightening because where does the Redeemer come in then? what good did christ do to save the sinner then? oh do come back and explain your thoughts please.

to be enlightened by the holy spirit and the reject christ? all knees must bow to christ.. I kind of get it I do believe it is a choice but Evan if we are called before the foundation of the world hello and God knows each one hello what are you saying that person says NO to God and that is the point reject HIS plan for your life they commint the unforgivable sin? explain please.. if God knows who is HIS, then it is willfull disregard for His will much like Lucifer did as an angel in heaven?

could be George . Do I think he did it? it doesnt matter he was convicted by his peers in the jury they are the only ones who have to think it. it does leave the door open for endless appeals tho, because it is all about what people think about what happened. I am eager to find out what really happened with the forman who left and why I have heard it is because he was taking so many notes 7 note books full and the replacement really didnt have the same approach and hence the agreement . that will be another case for appeal .