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oh the mighty Im a bigger victim card once again. do not be to sure of yourself it may be that not everyone puts out the pity card everytime they seek attention. the cycle of abuse continues with the VICTIMS family woman have children that get molested why are certain families prone hmm? why is it so often a generational thing gee it happened to me and now my kids ? go figure that is the type of love that attracts YOU. I know perps chose the victims by the role the parent plays out in this dysfunction.. The victim can not see what was love within their own home as wrong . mom or dad never heard their voice now their own child will have no ears to hear the cry that no one heard , it is a learned behaviour and it is abosolutly BOTH FEMALE and male, that allow it . few want to understand why cycles repeat themselves it digs into some deep pain about your own self and those you love and the choices all have made and why. it can rip those you love and those who have loved you to shreds, unless somone admits it is how you learned love and tries real hard to STOP the pain instead of living off it like a parasite sucking blood from anywhere that will listen to your pain one more time. but never not even for your own child able to recover from why it happens. it is a family thing just like alcohol or drug abuse the dysfunction is used as a card for the attention they never recieved as a child . Sometimes even at the expense of their own child. We love as we have been taught to love and will teach others to love in much the same way . Some who have never been heard make darn sure they can scream victim forever, even if it means making another victim it is real pain it is real illness. it is life long . guys . it is deep instilled behaviours and your right it can not be cured . but it can be stopped. IF as Galen admits YOUR HONEST.

then why did Jesus command it Rascal ? so what Jesus asks and then commands us to forgive 70 times 7 isnt it good enough for you?

it is those who refuse to consider that can never hear the pain. it is the molester biggest gain in life . it is all about betrayal OF TRUST. children run with their gut they are very deep little thinkers and not knowing to much about the ways of the world , they TRUST those who claim to love them to have ears to hear, and minds to think and love enough to protect them . it is your choice on who to trust as always . Jesus trusted no man and said be ye as the little children . to never consider to be so angry at the thought it could even be possible shuts some voices right down doesnt it? without any words. no child never wants to hurt anyone untill they grow up full of rage and never knowing where is it coming from . If the one who is to protect and they trust said it can NEVER BE then it isnt wrong is it? that is the CYCLE !!! that is the CYCLE of abuse.

you want to know why valid scriptures is being dismissed ? you tell me Rascal . your the one who says scripture you do not agree with is assine and state you do not want to hear it from olds or me or rg. you are the very one deny and dismissing scripture. because you do not like me or old or rg? the chrisitans were terrified of Paul and David was certainly spoke about as having very poor taste... adultry and all. so is the revelation they brought not up to your standard as well?

ya know about the denutting these guys. I followed a story about a guy doing time for rape. he wanted his balls cut off before they released him on parole. he isnt the only one either sometimes these guys beg for a way out of the misery they live and they know they will do it again . he went to court and the civil liberty freaks got a hold of it and considered it inhumane. he lost they would not cut his nuts off and he was released back into the public swearing he will most probably rape again. now we are ok with clipping dogs and cats so they cant do it why not these guys? I know some want it and feel it is the only true solution why not? we allow those who want to change sex to cut off their thingy but not these guys the liberals think it is unjust!!! food for thought. I think any man who wants to have his balls cut off should be allowed and Im willing to pay for it if he is guilty of rape or molestation.

I am not reading that anyone is saying it is "ok" just that it does happen and in my opinion a any man or woman who can be aware boundaries esp. out loud is much much safer than one who lives in a place that it can and never ever would be possible by somone they care deeply about. Denial is difficult and in so many cases of sexual abuse it is a learned behaviour , male and female, it is instill by both sexes from a very young age as love. Incest is found in very loving functional families. that is why it is often in family court and conseling is ordered as the remedy. love is a good thing. child molesters live and function very very well in society it isnt like drugs or alcohol where eventualy you have a more difficulty hiding the behaviour... in fact as time goes by it gets easier for a perp to manipulate and abuse as the trust goes deeper and denial is formed within another generation. to stop the cycle means addressing your family and those who didnt help you those who couldnt protect you, those who are guilty of not stopping the pain. It means being angry at the other victims doesnt it? and LOVE even dysfunctional is what every single human being on earth wants in life, to belong to know your ok and they are ok , to deny your own family or friend is very difficult . hence why so many do not can not would NEVER admit it could even be possible. because love is suppose to protect one another. trust me statistics clearly prove it is VERY POSSIBLE. It is those who blind themselves to the facts of this dysfunction that can never ever truly hear a victims call, it hurts to much. so the victims say silent and carry on with the only love they have known and repeat the same dynamics in their own families. the facts are. child molesters are trusted loved and cherished by children and their families. child molesters seldom if ever admit to being wrong in their behaviour. Children learn what they live. how to be loved and love is instilled by adults. it isnt out there people do like to speak about the fact at all. the hard core reaction and anger the very possibility of thinking about someone you love and care about doing such a thing can and does shut down many already terrified small voices. you may never hear them. so they go to the love that knows the truth that live in the mess that understands the pain .

I understand song . um yes but I hate to say it is so. mind sex? have mercy but God wants our mind to stay on more Godly ideals. but that post was lol . your so funny.

Smurfette YES that is sin the bible talks about not going to such place in your mind much less on a pc. the vessel your to use for sex is to come from your spouse and no other... it is written. a long time ago a way corps gal told me she asks for forgivness every night before going to bed (just in case) seriously we do not know where we sin sometimes but we all do so I have taken up the practice of asking God for forgivness every day for my sins known and unknown. sometimes several times a day. God is very serious about many matters of how we think or do life. I know I cant compete and must ask for forgivness.

when David had the affair with the wife of his neighbor, when Paul persecuted the christians . how did they repent? YET they indeed are great men working for God. God is the one on the throne and the day of vengence belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ for all. I know I hold no vengence as HE tells me it ONLY belongs to HIM. but I am asked to forgive many times over in the bible. Repent to God almighty trust me you will never be sorry enough for mankind.

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Galen can explain his own self. it isnt my job. sigh your own self Shellon. nor it is my job to convince another of anything it is only a discussion not some group think allegence of who is who or is it for you?

yeah ya know some of these guys are very educated and talented and can do some genuine service there . in the very least it may stop the CYCLE of abuse that is out of control in America. Im willing to pay for it. these guys often cost the prison system alot of money because they are hated in that system as well and have to be guarded and kept special .

ex I do not have the time to explain anything to you. suffice to say he is honest and real and willing to consider the realness of what mankind is or can be regardless of the circumstances. A person must have ears to hear the cry of a wimper in the night EX. Ears to hear , even if it is unspeakable .

johniam that is what I say put them on an island somwhere . give them jobs and food and housing and only those who want to see them can go there . yep . I think some would be willing to live away from children and the temptation or even the accusasion again.

I think the police do protect them it is their duty, if they get threatened or attacked. so johniam your saying you would rather live in a community that does not inform itself of the child molesters in the comunity? No pictures on the door in your town hmm? maybe that way you can think their is no child molesters as well I know the illusion . it is a constant reminder everyday for us. to be honest this doesnt cross my mind till I see the stupid pictures and or one of them in the street. I wouldnt recognize them from normal people if not for the pictures. ignorance is bliss type thinking? I have not really looked but does any other town do this? I love my town but sometimes I think we all are a little to defined in our ways.. at times when I see them all lined up on the door I think ya know do we have this much pride to HAVE to do this ? but then IM glad and really glad that we do . smile. like Galen says it the most excellant way! " I think anyone who is honest with themselves knows the answer". honesty is a freaking burden and your RIGHT does not sell much property !!!! haha no problem here tho we have prime and I mean to tell ya prime real estate! It is the most beautiful town and we truly do love one another . honestly warts and all. Galen wow Im impressed, truly impressed. your so right on. those with the biggest mouth on GS do not speak nearly as LOUD as those words. how beautiful to have that voice and I bet you also have the ears to hear the call of any victim. unlike those who can not bear to hear the truth which hurts sometimes esp. in the case of sexual abuse. Galen love mj412 It is no wonder to me the state has given you and your wife some of the most abused children to care for. you are indeed a protector of children and show the deepest love for all innocent ones.

Galen what brave and honest words. I have forty year span betwen siblings in my family. I see the change in how people speak and think about sex and children and disclosure clearly. you have a keen and honest perspective Galen . even forty years ago . It is didfficult to explain to those who do not know, somhow people want to live in it is them not anyone I truly love world. it is safer cleaner nicer and much less threat to your well being. I talked to my son the other day and he is concerned that his little sister is so very beautiful , really kind of angry that she turns heads and is out going. I laughed and said why are you so worried he said"well it didnt matter to me untill some of my own friends started noticing ". victims of childhood sexual abuse often turn to sex as a result seeking the type of love they learned in childhood. ironic but very true. many of the street hookers will testify to how they ended up on the corner or dancing in the strip joint because of being sexual abused at a young age and never telling anyone and the fact no one would believe them. If you truly love your husband and have a good marriage and your home is happy if you were a child would you tell? and be guilty of breaking up the family? a very large burden for a small dependent soul to bear and few honestly do . and sometimes mom is dependent as well who is to say they will believe you? Galen your very right with small children it is very wise for those intrusted with their care to be very very alert and aware.

oh yep indeed I had just taken the class and I was told by corps I couldnt possibly be right they loved this person and he was a "believer" for many years. very popular dude knew and taught the word at twig excellent friendships with some big clergy. I was ashamed to metion the problem . a few years later he did go to jail and I was marked and avoided . I do NOT think the motive was evil I think it was loyal people loving one another in ignorance that anything bad could be amoung them. boy were we wrong huh?

I do kind of avoid the store sometimes krys when I do not want to think about it. this is a very small town with alot of bars and cough drinking folks hanging out on main street at night . I would be more afraid if I was one of them . this has always been a drinking town what with all the bars no strip joints or anything tho. when I saw one at the town hall one day I kind of over reacted myself and said to my friend that is him myself and I didnt like it. so I imagine the more macho amoung us might get a little more pushy. The town is trying to reduce rental property here it is a goal to switch all to single family homes , we can not sell a rental property unless the new owner signs a contract to live in the building for 3 years . Rentals make for more drifiting people and the town wants it to stop hence I think the idea of the pictures. trust me landlords are very much more selective now. because it also states who owns the property and well people get upset. I was just wondering how you guys would react. ex if it would help none of them look to happy on the shot .

none of this was this thick untill he died tho. maybe because the internet was not here maybe because LCM got involved I cant say but I did read the other day in one of his books how vpw wanted others to think well of him .

yeah abi I kind of agree. Krys the consentual age for sex her is 17. that is the law it has nothing what so ever to do with "adults". what does that mean exactly the legal age varies for different things in this state you can vote at 18 but cant drink till 21 etc.. We had a 12 year old boy convicted of rape and murder of a 4 year old in a nearby county he was tried and convicted as an adult . He got sixty years he had just turned twelve he will be sent to prison on his 18th birthday till then he is locked up in a secured facility for youths. the night they arrested him he went to county jail lock up. Age has little to do with how they prosecute a crime now Krys. But often times the law is determined by age .

stayed to long try to keep up. I am confused by your writing your agreeing with Herb and I right? haha I said with the pictures we have a constant reminder and maybe in a town that has no such display they can forget I know everytime I see the picture it kind of REMINDs ya . we you and I and herb are thinking the same thing your just confused. you disagree with the last sentence by herb who wonders if we think they are the only ones did ya read my posts at all or jumping on a band wagon here? herb was just making a genral thoughtful statement not acussing me of thinking that maybe asking . We are probably more aware of the problem since these are in our face on a daily level hello . I think you want to say you AGREE with the last sentence in herbs post . As I do also. I also think we get daily or more than daily reminders. these are not wanted posters these are convicted criminals that currently live in this town with their current address.

Shellon no reason to get nervous or paranoid. of course we educate and I also like the idea of the pictures but it is a bit of a difference between the town next door and us. blaring acutaly. They have 5 times the size we do in people. So I think it is probably there as well ya think? but the fact is many have never nor will be convicted of a crime such as this , years go by if they are ever caught. I have neighbor in an apartment house next door (yes we are a tight community with many staying for generations ) no one knows this family although they claim to have lived here before. it is a girl about nine dad and grandma . so they claim. well behind them is a young couple with two small children. In the same building. yes we kind of do get all the news about everyone here and like it so anyways the school told her this child has been enrolled in six 6 different school systems in TWO years. she told me so I asked the older woman she said it was true they have moved from state to state alot for many years. now I do not think they work this is NOT about a job transfer. So young couple now harrases them , they walk by and young couple ask them WHERE IS THIS CHILDS MOM? ok ok I do not get involved in this but the young couple has a point what the heck ARE they doing they are NOT stable and certainly not community members. why do they move so much? and they told me they are going to move again in a few months to another state. They looked them up and they found nothing but if they are running and not yet been convicted nothing would show up in the criminal files. I sometimes think this is a type of witch hunt ya know I mean all up in their life, but then again I do not live in the same building with two small children.... what say ye? I think if a person has nothing to hide then lets all have at it which we all do trust me and we know the smell of humanity and folks, we truly do care about one another it is a lovely community. some think it is to small and nosy hmmmpff cant take the heat get out of the kitchen types. I think we have safety in numbers and lots of "concern" lol for one another.

Lorna doon go to the link in the drop down site above on this page, click on CES when you get to his page go to the truth or tradition site, put in sit with interperation as the subject and you will find a huge PDF file with John lynns thoughts on this subject. well that is not needed just go to the link Jeff supplied and John Lynn is all over it.

o like paw is married to GS?. got it.