Nathan_Jr

Historicity need not get in the way of Truth. I don't accept the Bible as historically accurate in every word written. I don't think all of it is literally true. But it doesn't need to be. At least not for me. The Truth that is discoverable is not dependent on everything being perfectly accurate historically.

The eight symptoms of groupthink include an illusion of invulnerability or of the inability to be wrong, the collective rationalization of the group’s decisions, an unquestioned belief in the morality of the group and its choices, stereotyping of the relevant opponents or out-group members, and the presence of “mindguards” who act as barriers to alternative or negative information, as well as self-censorship and an illusion of unanimity. Decision making affected by groupthink neglects possible alternatives and focuses on a narrow number of goals, ignoring the risks involved in a particular decision. It fails to seek out alternative information and is biased in its consideration of that which is available. Once rejected, alternatives are forgotten, and little attention is paid to contingencyplans in case the preferred solution fails. https://www.britannica.com/science/groupthink The two entries directly following groupthink are persuasion and brainwashing. So, I mean to use the term in the context of cult. --------- I don't think it is always best to put one's self ahead of the group. I usually put others before myself, to a fault. This is not groupthink. It's selfless generosity guided by something greater than myself or the group. Ostracism is a real threat when one has given away EVERYTHING to join a cult. --------- When I was in the corporate world, I saw groupthink as a liability, not an asset. Though I expected my team to to be aligned with certain top line goals and values, I challenged them to be creative and think outside the box to find solutions. "We do it that way because we've always done it that way" is a bullshonta, lazy cop out that I strongly discouraged. (I was the black sheep in a good ol boy culture, but I delivered results that couldn't be denied.) --------- I understand the need for a sense of belonging, but if one must sacrifice one's individuality, independence and free thought for the group, then one should reconsider belonging to that group.

Asked and answered. If you want to know why (W-H-Y) PFAL required multiple viewings, I could explain in a relevant thread like .... ... Otherwise, your question and comment are off topic here.

Some books are orange. Some people are afraid of their own mind controlling their own mind. Rely not on your understanding. Renew your mind to groupthink.

In 1949, seven years after precious 1942, George Orwell published a book.

That would require research, wouldn’t it?

Hey, I get it. It took me three months to get through PFAL - two hours every Saturday. And I never even got a thank you for enduring and persevering.

Charlene's book is about as insider as you can get on this topic. You have a copy, right? Have you read it?

Suite Judy Blue Eyes, CS&N (sometimes Y) ** A timely song in the wake of David Crosby.

@T-BoneDo you remember what victor needed a manuscript of Timothy to say to confirm his bias? Was it a specific verse that he wanted rewritten? Did Walter admit to a lack of evidence required to support victor's fantasy, or did he continue running with the hope that one day they might be able to manufacture a glove to fit the hand?

My FC would proudly admit that if victor was wrong and was going over the cliff, he would follow him right off the cliff to his peril - that’s how commuted he was to his beleeef in vpw. I think he wanted me to be impressed. I was. I was impressed with how incredibly stupid such an admission sounded.

I’m not a gambling man, and I see Pascal’s Wager as a huckster’s game. If Jesus is coming back with a copy of the orange book in his hand, and victor paul wierwille is due to receive vast heavenly rewards of mansions, crowns and virgins, then I want none of it. I will never worship a god who exalts victor above the serpent. I would rather be annihilated or burn in hellfire for eternity. This I confess with my mouth and believe in my heart.

Fo sho! That has already been revealed to me. The second time established it. My question has to do with the word taking the place of the absent Word. It really all goes back to what is the word. I’ll ask the question again in one of my tongues. If I get the answer twice… well, you know…

Is the Christ ho Logos?

He healed no one. His was not a healing ministry. His was a Biblical search again ministry. There is no reason to believe that story is true. Victor paul wierwille did not establish himself as a man of credibility or integrity. it's as fantastical and bullshonta laden as the 1942 fraud.

Mmmph. Damn. Seriously, mmmph.

Mmmph

To be distinguished from.. 1 Th 4:15 "...the word of the Lord..." ...distinguished still from... John 1:1 "....the word was God.." ...even further distinguished from... "the word = YourBelieving+YourWalk+ChristInYou+TheBible"

I asked this of him many times. After days, even weeks, of dodging and window washing, he answered. Mike said: The Word = YourBelieving+ChristInYou+YourWalk+TheBible Hope this clears things up.

I asked in my native English, then I interpreted that into each of my unknown tongues - I have three. Don’t know if you learned how (H-O-W) to do that kind of reverse interpretation in “excellor” sessions, but it’s available if you can believe big enough for it. I am patiently awaiting an answer.

Where is the focus? Just follow the attention. It was misplaced from the beginning. This is fundamental to the abject spiritual bankruptcy that is TWI and victor paul wierwille.

What is an OLG?

Except at Starbucks. Like Father like Son: there are some things Jesus Christ just cannot do.

Mmmph