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I just now remembered and saw that Charity posted links to that educational web site, Bible Hub on April 7th. Very good. Grade of "A", but God could give that web site a grade of "A+".
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Amazing T-Bone! You found a web site that has much biblical study research. Even the Interlinear Bible with original Koine Greek words for the New Testament. For my biblical study research. I use a software program which I have on my 3 current primary computers, which has the same research and more. This program is called Biblesoft. https://biblesoft.com/
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Regarding the question, are the dead alive now? Mortal physical humanity dies or passes away. Just like physical animals die. A number of readable scriptures show that. However, regarding the gift of Holy Spirit which followers of Jesus Christ receive as a connection with God. The Holy Spirit does not die because it is simply spiritual from God, our heavenly Father. When followers of Christ die, the gift of Holy Spirit can go back to God the giver. What God uses it for is simply up to God. Our adopted heavenly Father can use this with the future coming of Christ when Christ's followers get a new spiritual body as explained in 1st Corinthians 15 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. The Comfort of Christ's Coming 13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. (NKJV) 1 Corinthians 15:42-44 42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. (NIV)
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Calling Jesus Christ a loving psychiatrist is figurative and not literal. Jesus Christ wanted to help the persons emotions before he died or passed away. Jesus Christ was and is very helpful for humanity even when or before he experienced much pain while perhaps being nailed to a cross and experiencing death. The cross needed to be attached to a tree otherwise it would have fallen.
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Simply, Jesus Christ in Luke 23:43 was acting as a loving psychiatrist for that person that day. This is one of the examples that Jesus Christ wanted to be helpful with all of humanity as long as they changed from bad to good. In using my biblical software program the Greek word for paradise is used 3 times in the New Testament. The Greek word for heaven is used 273 times in the New Testament.
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T-Bone: You type like a humor GENIUS. Congratulations for being a humor genius.
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Certainly we at least know who are our spiritual Head is. He is currently seated at the right hand of God, his Father by birth and resurrection from the dead. Jesus Christ! Just like I needed to edit my biblical teaching book. I need to edit my posts on Grease Spot Cafe. My goal is to be 100% truthful, but at least 99%.
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WOW T-Bone. You sound like a genius. Amazing! Maybe we even know where are physical heads are. With the help of two hands and arms. Certainly we at least know who are spiritual Head is. He is currently seated at the right hand of God, his Father by birth. Jesus Christ!
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Interesting Exidor and this parable is explained in one of the chapters of the biblical teaching book, "Our Loving Savior Jesus Christ". The chapter is named "The Mythology of Hell That Contradicts Scriptures". The following is the copyright information from the quoted book. I wonder who that author is?? While posting on Grease Spot Cafe, I could instead be called Marky Spaghetti and could or would even consider being called that a compliment. Author: Mark Sanguinetti Primary Graphic Artist: Julian Kernes Publisher: Puros Christian Reconciliation First Edition © 2021 All rights reserved: Printed in the United States of America
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I wonder do you want people to think that you are doing your own biblical version? Or writing your own epistle to Grease Spot Cafe? As the author of a biblical teaching book, I always was safe and secure to state the source of what I was quoting from. I even sent two copies to the US government for full copy right purposes and received a letter in the mail that I have full copy right to my biblical teaching book. However, maybe that is not important for me to type this, because I do NOT have a special religious title, for example Reverend.
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Thank you for helping me laugh T-Bone and that is NOT Mark Sanguinetti, the workaholic. I prefer eating healthy food so that I can live longer in my earthly life. I especially now do NOT want my stomach to growl and bark. I instead want him to wag his tail.
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That is good CMAN, but when you quote from scriptures, please type or copy the scriptures that you are quoting from. I always do that so that people can double check the source of my information. In his recent post it looks like CMAN was quoting from Romans 6:3-11 from the King James Version and then Colossians 2:12 also from the KJV.
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Obviously comparing sleep to death is NOT literal, and instead is a figure of speech or a metaphor. However, since I do not have a special religious title, for example Reverend, I can often be ignored. Therefore, on this subject of sleep, I will simply again copy from the Nelson Bible Dictionary. Yes, I often learn from the Nelson Illustrated Bible Dictionary. This includes speeding up my biblical study research. I hope others learn also. SLEEP A natural period of rest during which consciousness is suspended. In the Bible, sleep is a common metaphor for death. In 1 and 2 Kings, especially, the phrase, "he rested (slept, KJV) with his fathers," occurs many times (1 Kings 2:10; 11:43). The Christian dead "sleep in Jesus" (1 Thessalonians 4:14). Sleep also can symbolize physical laziness, which brings poverty (Proverbs 6:9-11). In the New Testament sleep often suggests spiritual or moral laziness (1 Thessalonians 5:6). On the other hand, sleep can be a symbol of living in safety (Ezekiel 34:25). God gives sleep to the righteous and to the hard worker (Psalms 4:8; Ecclesiastes 5:12). (from Nelson's Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Copyright © 1986, Thomas Nelson Publishers) As an example of figurative and not literal. Before I sleep at night I always pray to God now that I can get at least 6 hours of sleeping WORK, but I prefer 7 hours of sleeping work. Because I sometimes have acid reflex in my stomach. I figuratively compare my stomach to a dog and pray to God that my stomach wags his tail instead of growl or bark. Especially when I lie down to do my sleeping work. In addition, because I consider my self a workaholic and not an alcoholic. This is why I consider sleep part of my work day. I use figurative and not literal statements much.
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With regard to the biblical subject of the second coming of Christ. The following has some information from the Nelson Bible Dictionary. SECOND COMING Christ's future return to the earth at the end of the present age. Although the Bible explicitly speaks of Christ's appearance as a "second time," the phrase "second coming" occurs nowhere in the New Testament. Many passages, however, speak of His return. In fact, in the New Testament alone it is referred to over 300 times. The night before His crucifixion, Jesus told His apostles that He would return (John 14:3). When Jesus ascended into heaven, two angels appeared to His followers, saying that He would return in the same manner as they had seen Him go (Acts 1:11). The New Testament is filled with expectancy of His coming, even as Christians should be today. Various opinions exist about what is meant by the Second Coming. Some regard it as the coming of the Holy Spirit on the day of PENTECOST. Others regard it as the coming of Christ into the heart at conversion. Christ's coming for the believer at the time of death is still another view. Careful examination of the New Testament, however, makes it clear that the Second Coming will be a climactic historical event. The Lord will return in the same manner in which He left. His coming will be personal, bodily, and visible. The time of the Second Coming is unknown. In fact, Jesus stated that only the Father knew the time. Therefore, the return of the Lord should be a matter of constant expectancy. As He came the first time, in the "fullness of time" (Galatians 4:4), so will the Second Coming be. The believer's task is not to try to determine the time of the Second Coming. We should share the gospel message diligently until He returns (Acts 1:8-11). (from Nelson's Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Copyright © 1986, Thomas Nelson Publishers) Acts 1:6-11 6 So when they met together, they asked him, "Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?" 7 He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth." 9 After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight. 10 They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11 "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven." (NIV) 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 The Comfort of Christ's Coming 13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. (NKJV)
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If humanity does not really die or die for a short time, perhaps 1 or 2 seconds. Then why do followers of Jesus Christ need Christ to return?? With the dead in Christ only being raised from the dead when Jesus Christ returns before the 1000 year period, shows that humanity needs Jesus Christ. Also after the 1,000 year period the devil and the demons will get placed in prison. Then there will be a second resurrection of judgement with Jesus Christ part of the judgement when working with God his Father. This also shows that humanity needs Jesus Christ to have eternal life and NOT Satan the god of this age and world now. This can be read in Revelation chapter 20. Revelation 20:11-15 The Great White Throne Judgment 11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. (NKJV) In addition, it has the Book of Life with humanity being judged more favorably than others who will be placed into the lake of fire. As worded with the figurative “book of life”, some or perhaps even a majority who will be judged as read in Revelation 20:15 may be “found written in the book of life” (KJV). Then they will not need to be “cast into the lake of fire” and may be able to enter the gates in the new heaven and earth. Chapter 21 has information on the new heaven and earth. Revelation 21:25-27 25 On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there. 26 The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it. 27 Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life. (NIV) This Christian ministry in Texas has information about this controversial subject. https://lifehopeandtruth.com/life/life-after-death/what-is-heaven/go-to-heaven/
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Regarding the topic of death as physical and spiritual. The following is from the Nelson Bible Dictionary and NOT VPW. DEATH A term which, when applied to the lower orders of living things such as plants and animals, means the end of life. With reference to human beings, however, death is not the end of life. The Bible teaches that man is more than a physical creature; he is also a spiritual being. For man, therefore, physical death does not mean the end of existence but the end of life as we know it and the transition to another dimension in which our conscious existence continues. The Bible speaks of death in a threefold way: physical, spiritual, and eternal. The first physical death of a human being recorded in the Bible is that of Abel, who was murdered by his brother Cain (Genesis 4:8). However, death itself, in both the physical and spiritual sense, is first mentioned by God Himself (Genesis 2:17). In the Genesis account of the FALL both physical and spiritual death come as a result of sin (Romans 5:12-21). Various attitudes toward death are expressed in the Bible, from dread to anticipation. The ancient Hebrews regarded death as entrance into SHEOL, where they were cut off from everything dear in life, including God and loved ones. But God revealed to the psalmist that the Redeemer God is both in heaven and in Sheol (Psalms 139:7-8), and He is able to bring a person out of Sheol ("the grave"; 1 Samuel 2:6). Because "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23), all men are spiritually dead-separated from God who is the Source of spiritual life. Sin makes a person hate the light and despise the truth; it causes one to break God's laws and to become insensitive to holy things. Everyone who has not been redeemed by Christ is spiritually dead (Luke 15:32; Ephesians 2:1-3; Colossians 2:13). (from Nelson's Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Copyright © 1986, Thomas Nelson Publishers)
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Do you at least see that physical death began as worded in Genesis chapter 3? Do you at least see less of a spiritual connection with God? Followers of Jesus Christ can see that through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ with Jesus now seated at the right hand of God. Then beginning in the first century with the receiving of the Holy Spirit as a gift from God, that there is more of a spiritual connection now between God and human followers of Christ. Genesis 3:1-13 3 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?" 2 The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.'" 4 "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. 5 "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." 6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves. 8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the Lord God called to the man, "Where are you?" 10 He answered, "I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid." 11 And he said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?" 12 The man said, "The woman you put here with me — she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it." 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate." NIV
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Do you actually believe that? There was spiritual death in Genesis chapter 3 and then future physical death, which humanity has now. The serpent or devil is really good at deception with false things. I do not recommend believing the devil and the demons, which I figuratively call spiritual .... ants. Please pray to God in the name of Jesus Christ and NOT the spiritual god of this world.
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Regarding the word soul from the bible. Here is information from the very informative Nelson Bible Dictionary. SOUL A word with two distinct meanings in the Bible: 1. That which makes a human or animal body alive. This usage of the word soul refers to life in the physical body. The best example of this usage are those passages in the New Testament in which the Greek word for soul is translated as life. "For whoever desires to save his life [soul] will lose it," Jesus declared, "but whoever loses his life [soul] for My sake and the gospel's will save it. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?" (Mark 8:36-37). This idea is also present in the Old Testament. For example, the soul of a dying person departed at death (Genesis 35:18). The prophet Elijah brought a child back to life by stretching himself upon the child three times and praying that God would let the child's soul come back into him (1 Kings 17:19-23). 2. The word soul also refers to the inner life of man, the seat of his emotions, and the center of human personality. The first use of the word soul in the Old Testament expresses this meaning: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being (soul)" (Genesis 2:7). This means more than being given physical life; the biblical writer declares that man became a "living soul," or a person, a human being, one distinct from all other animals. The soul is described as the seat of many emotions and desires: the desire for food (Deuteronomy 12:20-21), love (Song of Solomon 1:7), longing for God (Psalms 63:1), rejoicing (Psalms 86:4), knowing (Psalms 139:14), and memory (Lamentations 3:20). In the New Testament, Jesus spoke of his soul as being "exceedingly sorrowful" (Matthew 26:38). Mary, the mother of Jesus, proclaimed that her soul "magnifies the Lord" (Luke 1:46). John prayed that Gaius would "prosper in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers" (3 John 2). (from Nelson's Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Copyright © 1986, Thomas Nelson Publishers) Regarding soul referring to life in the physical body. This involves the ability to breath which is needed for our physical bodies.
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It reads like Cman is making his own bible version, but if you are not then simply type which verses you quoting from and even the version. However, perhaps this is a new bible version called the CMAN bible.
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Thank you for helping me laugh, but I instead use a bible study software program. Hopefully a bible study software program is not intimidating. Regarding Revelation chapter 20. Has the devil in the last number of years ever been locked up so that the devil or Satan can not deceive humanity for a 1,000 year period of time? Then there would be no wars with people living longer and at least a Christ like mindset for humanity. Revelation 20:1-3 1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time. (NIV)
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A very good example of a religious person closing his eyes when reading scriptures that are not in harmony with his religious beliefs. This part of Revelation 20:11-15 is after Revelation 20:1-6 with the 1,000 year period with Jesus Christ being assisted by his followers or those in Christ who were raised from the dead. This assistance might even be the authority to judge. Revelation 20:4-6 4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years. (NIV)
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Revelation 20:11-15 11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (NIV) Most people on this forum here can read all the words of the scriptures, without closing their eyes with certain words, for example the words dead, judged or death. It looks to me like the person sitting on the great white throne, while judging will be and is Jesus Christ. One problem though with me is that I do NOT have a special religious title of Reverend or in the 1st century Pharisee or Sadducee. However, I can at least read all the words of the scriptures without needing to close my eyes with certain words.
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Do people sometimes think that people who started wars so that they could make money or people that committed crimes so that they could also make money were resurrected after death also? The following verses show judgement with people being judged favorably and being in the book of life. Also people judged unfavorably and being thrown or placed in the lake of fire. The Greek word for fire is "puros", which represents spiritual from God and that includes the judgement of God. Revelation 20:12-15 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire (puros). (New International Version)
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Hell is simply the grave or the place of the dead. For example, there are NO usages of the word hell for the Old Testament in most newer versions of the bible. Instead the Hebrew Old Testament word with English letters spelled as "sheol" or "sheowl" is primarily translated as "the grave". For example, the New International Version (NIV®) for 1984 does not have any usages of the word “hell” in the entire Old Testament. The following is a link to a TRUTHFUL teaching about the FALSE concept of hell. https://www.bereanbiblechurch.org/transcripts/topical/eternal-punishment-pt01-hell-no.htm