TheSongRemainsTheSame

Hey Pat, I had to learn to walk all over again. For real physical injuries. Left leg broken left knee cap broken right leg, right hip dislpaced, broken left arm and wrist broken, evewn had a caste on me nose... all at once... Hey Dude ennytime ya wants to go to HOOTERS, I am sure you would have a few hugs!!! ;)-->

Lifted Up, are you involved with John Shroyer's ministry?

Hey you crippled old fart, have you learned to walk again? from one crippled ole fart to another~~~

and your point is ...???

templelady, I agree with you but with a slight slant the offer. I would not shake right hands with someone holding a palm full of BS. As far as forgiveness~~~ I leave that end open to them. May they forgive themselves and resign and offer all monies and property to orphans or any good will of humanity. Then I may have fellowship with those who have destroyed lives and truely made ammends. other than that

Mike, you cloak yourself very well into this thread. Your reputation as well as memory proceeds you. I doubt that Jeff or JAL would agree with you that PFAL is The Word Of God.

Exactly George Aar. Just 'bout turned a tear or two these half century eyes. Now, would you please open with a word of prayer and pray for the Ministry and the current BOT, and LCM that he finds his way back into the lifes of people he so blessed and that he has a hedge of protection from the adversary. And then we will have manifestations and the abundant sharing and songs and teaching and songs and more prayer, and kool aide. ;)--> Rok On Song ps. the "tear" part was for real

GJ~~~I would love to hear that story. And of course, time is of the essence. Please, at your convenience pray tell. Rok On Song

Hiya Jim Martin, Forgive me my silly fun --> I would find such a gig quite fascinating. I will see if one is closer to me here in N Fl. And about that scholarship, does it apply to all their conferences? And I did mean it when I said "thanks". Rok On Song

I choose Rok N Roll I choose to believe the god of my understanding and if anyone has an objection, then its to the unknown god of all. Dig your thoughts abi... ;)-->

what wine would you chose for this thread oenophile?

Main Entry: Shan·gri-la Pronunciation: "sha[ng]-gri-'l?R>Function: noun Etymology: Shangri-La, imaginary land depicted in the novel Lost Horizon (1933) by James Hilton Date: 1937 1 : a remote beautiful imaginary place where life approaches perfection : UTOPIA 2 : a remote usually idyllic hideaway >>> Would I go back? Only if I could turn lead into gold

Thanks jmjx, Really thanks. What is it you are offering?

Hey folks! I am hoping that some folks that are still in TWI will read this post. Maybe some of you that are still at HQ might want to pass this on to the research department. Hey, how come TWI never taught me about what my Lord (not VPW or Craig M.) is doing for me today? So, I thought you might like to read some of that information for yourself. I found it very eye-opening.... Sad to say, too many of us have never been taught what Jesus Christ is doing today, and every day since he became the “Lord” and the “Head” of the Church, which is made up of the members of his Body. We all know that he died for us, was raised from the dead, ascended to heaven and is now “seated” at God's right hand. But does that mean he is “just chillin’”? No way. He is even busier than he was when he lived on the earth.... Here a link to an article that I trust will bless your socks off!!! cough couhor cough se cough sh cough it

Hi Pat, Appears to be loads of fun meeting people like Hassan and the Hare Krishna reps. Hey jmjex, Will Mary Garden be there... "The Serpent Rising. A Journey of Spiritual Seduction".? Now then I would attend!

Hey WW see the "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain". That's you're only hope a baloon ride out of oz and a doctorates degree. otherwise Mikes PFAL is available... ;)-->

you are so dear Mike. Thank You. I am humbled your revelation and revelations from the almighty PFAL of God. Forgive me. Father just told me you suck!!!

will jim jones be there? The program of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, will he be there? Ted Patrick, will he be there? whoops sorry, jmjext, just a little fun from an ex cultist Rok On Wish I had a seat to the lecturn Song

oldiesman Postaholic posted September 01, 2004 10:23 One way I can think of right off the bat if they're different would be in the abs category, and if there is no compulsion. For example, when going to twig in the '70's, I never experienced a directive/mandate by the tc or leadership to tithe or abs; one may give cash if one desired as well. If one desired not to give, one was still allowed to attend twig, and keep attending, without giving any money. Then I hear in the '90's, all that changed, and they required you to at least tithe, and wanted you to give a check, so they could keep track. Is all that changed now? If I wanted, could I go to twig as often as I like and not be bothered if I don't feel like sending money to hq? surely you jest OM. one is subtle and the other blatent. Twi of the 70's was small and subtle. TWI of the 80's to 90's was bigger and therefore more demanding. Twi of the o1's and now are small and try to go back to the 70's their cash flow!!! NOTHING has changed!!! a pile of shinola under a different name smells the same

Well ya know OM, I read every word in this thread which prompted the analogy. And I pondered a choice between a new thread which I would be responsible to attend reply's, or a thread that was already in motion. I chose the "two" into one instead of a companion thread. I did not know who, but I did anticipate an objection or two to arise. That's why I installed this little teenie tiny really small, oh hell, MICROSCOPIC disclaimer: AP is really not just . AP is who we were before we were involved TWI. If you had known then what you know now about TWI, would you or anyone for that matter become involved with TWI? I wouldn't!!! That answer for me made a difference in my response to Oaks thread "Wierwille's Actions vs. His Words: Starting Over". The title seeeeems to have a hint of a qustion as in: The above quote is on the first page, first post, 3rd paragraph And since I would not take the class starting at zero if I HAD KNOWN about VPW at that time, I would start over because I DO KNOW VPW'S FISH!!! Therefore, I would pass over that skin and mostly boney fish and move down the display case AND "Yes! That fresh Filet of Flounder will be just fine." That would be the delectable delight to the palate that I would choose. I would imagine there is a choice? The mostly boney fish OR the sweet Fresh Filet of Flounder. After all, they are both just fish. Its relevance is quite an appropiate post this thread. And it can be another matter entirely. I suppose it would depend on how one organizes their home. Rok On Song To everything a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven

Wierwille's Actions vs. His Words: Starting Over A slight digression , but not a derail. Let's start at zero. Find an "average" person who hungers and thirsts for God's Word. Present to this average person (AP)) every work by Dr. Victor Paul Weirwille in mint condition as a gift. Just give AP a tone down of what is being offered: 1.The truth is in there if you can distinguish it from the error. 2.Dr. VPW earned his doctorate degree from an unaccredited college. 3. Dr.VPW plagiarized "some" of his material. 4. Dr. VPW calls himself The Teacher. 5. Dr. VPW claims extraordinary revelation from God Almighty that GOD would teach him The Word as it has not been taught since the first century church if he would teach it to others. 6. Dr. VPW was known to tip the Drambuie just a wee bit. 7. Dr. VPW was a womaniser. 8. Dr. VPW is an adulteror 9. Dr. VPW taught that cancer was caused by devil spirits. He died of cancer. Now AP, he also did many a good thing and studied with many reknown biblical scholars and does have degress from accredited colleges. He is also known for inventing the jump shot. He has traveled to many countries and taught them the Word that you will find in these volumes of books, mags, cassets, and videos. He even had an auditorium dedicated to him when he did not want it dedicated to him. Oh yeah, he healed a man in Jubblepor, India, at the train staion, of a withered arm in the name of Jesus while the man was not a believer in Jesus. He began a B R T & F mininstry that wwwent over the world. It was estimated at one time as many as & more than 100,000 followers, but now, maybe 5000 and that would include children. He even has ministry's that were founded by Ex. TWIERS fashioned after his. Just imagine AP, you master this material and you can be the MOG and rule them all. In fact there is a person that has a glimpse of that type of granduer, but has not yet arrived. So what say you AP. Would you like this wonderful matchless gift of Gods Word.? AP says?: Sure man lay it on me. It would be a challenge to see if I can distinguish truth from error from a fraud. Wow. or That's okay dude. I'd rather know the truth from error from a reputable school with accredited and moral teachers.

To The Cyber Space Greazers this thread: AWESOME ! ! ! THANK YOU and my appreciations all the information, thoughts etc. More than a few perusals required to assimilate. This is a field day for me!!! ;)--> I will respond in kind!!! Fer sure. Please by all means continue on or long as it continues. Rok On Song

shazdancer posted August 25, 2004 08:33 Yeah, WW, and the message behind the message: "I don't care that he hurt my brothers and sisters in Christ, as long as I got something for me...." WordWolf posted August 25, 2004 09:29 Hm. You're right-I left that out. I'll have to do some tweaking... ===================== "I don't care if he was a plagiarist, molester, rapist, conman and overall fraud, HE TAUGHT ME THE WOOOORD... I got mine-who cares if YOU suffer?" i just had to re-post the extended version with a further view :D--> ;)-->

WordWolf posted August 25, 2004 04:47 TSRTS, I hope you don't mind me ripping you off for today's signature.... ===================== "I don't care if he was a plagiarist, molester, rapist, conman and overall fraud, HE TAUGHT ME THE WOOOORD... I got mine-who cares if YOU suffer?" nopper not at all WW

WTH you said "... The VPW I came to know would have been horribly appalled to realize his PFAL bible students were wasting all their time and energy doing nothing but frittering away their precious lives discussing him nearly 20 years after he died on some silly chat board on the Internet. He would have seen all these idiotic threads and discussions about him and his credentials (his doctorate) and whether or not his actions lived up to his words as nothing but pure B.S. And that's putting it mildly. I can't use the words I'ld like to use without this chat board xxxx'ing them out!" Well, well WTH. I hope he would be horribly appalled that his KEEDS found out about his Doctorate and all the other things. I spent TWInty years from '75- '95 believing that he was a DR!!! Did I waste my time and precious life his False Degree for 20 years? And that 9 years after my departure from TWI my questioning his, uhmm, "credentials" would be pure BS on some silly chat board on the Internet? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA whoa whoa let me catch my breath the next string of xxxx'ing HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHHH. B U RRRRR PUH Thanks WTH. And oh, by the way WTH ~~~~ The AHHH at the end up there was just a mild one ounce portion of dried tiny Tepin pepper pods.