WordWolf

It's been far too many minutes. I need to post more clues.

Diehard Star Trek fans should all know this one. Steppenwolf's "MAGIC CARPET RIDE."

Yes, Leonard Skinerd (or the band of his students) initially recorded "Sweet Home Alabama." However, anyone who performed it is a legitimate answer for this thread. So, acceptable answers would also be "Alabama" (off of "Skynrd Frynds") or the Allman Brothers (off of "Winning Combinations-The Allman Brothers and Lyrnyd Skynrd.") Whew, that was a close one!

vpw plagiarized not just the material, but how it was taught, as well. Over time, he would have forgotten specifics in the delivery that longtime pfal fans would have remembered. So, since it was all mimicry, he would have gotten worse over time. If it had been legit, then the subjects would get BETTER over time, not worse.

I could have sworn someone said vpw had actually connected "spirit of leviathan" with being an alcoholic/drunkard.

That second verse is obvious, especially when it's posted in its entirety. "SWEET HOME ALABAMA", the Allman Brothers.

He may have been a nice man to you, but he threatened me once and tried to intimidate me. I had asked him something. He lied to my face. I asked if he minded if I checked into what he said. He replied by threatening me with physical harm if I did. He was big, but he wasn't fast, nor did he move like a trained fighter. I was NOT intimidated by him. I let my body language show it in spades at that point, and doubled down the more he talked. Frankly, he was increasingly bothered by how I didn't flinch or back down- which made it more fun for me to increasingly show calmness and confidence while he kept trying. For the record, I was faster than him, and a trained fighter, and I already had a plan mapped out if he tried to jump at me. I wasn't just pretending he wasn't a viable threat to me. I'm not of the opinion he was like that before he went to live on-grounds in the corps. I think he degenerated a lot in his first year in residence- since I'd met him before that and that's why we were even HAVING a conversation. Maybe it was because I was another guy, and maybe because he thought he could intimidate me because he was taller than me. Looking back, whenever someone on-grounds said something and tried to one-up me (for the few times I was there, it happened quite a bit), I kept letting it all roll off my back. It looked to me like those came from insecurity and not from a legit concern for me, so I gave it the attention it deserved. I was quite shocked when I'd heard about his death. Frankly, I thought he might have earned a smack-down or a thrashing, but I certainly didn't think he'd earned an early grave. Then again, by deciding to try to blend in on grounds, and cementing his blind loyalty when lcm demanded oaths of blind loyalty in 88-89, he'd begun to set the stage for what actually killed him. Was it his loyalty to lcm, or his loyalty to twi that really set the stage? Perhaps it was both- so when lcm took his wife and it turned out he could do nothing about it (he tried to get her to leave with him, they talked her into staying), he blew his brains out after yelling at her that he couldn't compete with lcm. Why he didn't just shoot lcm instead, I think, goes back to his blind loyalties. He decided previously that he'd go off a cliff for lcm/twi, so, when the option came, that's what he did. And, yes, they told his widow that he would have killed her and himself if she'd left the grounds with him. Yes, that was a vicious lie.

I used to trust the people who introduced me to pfal, and made it sound like they were all great people entirely because of pfal. That was the same bait-and-switch that had been practiced when the hippies had gone out. vpw sent out quality Christians as his advertising arm, and made it look like what made them quality Christians was the pfal class, when they'd been quality long before hearing of it. So, for year after year, quality Christians in twi convinced people that they key to being a quality Christian was pfal and whatever vpw was teaching. I think they had no real idea how they were deceiving everyone, since it had been done to them and it was such an omnipresent practice that it was the status quo. So, because I trusted them, I trusted wierwille- to a point, and lcm- to a lesser point.

I started this thread in "About the Way", and that was not because I wanted to do a historical exegesis of a High Church practice. As it is, in the RCC, the standing is for the Mass, and not for anything else. If you encounter a priest, deacon, or higher-up in any context other than a Mass or a formal ceremony, things are actually pretty CASUAL. In fact, if they're not wearing a clerical collar or other symbol, it's possible to not realize you're interacting with a priest. They also don't require standing when they hold Bible classes.

To say nothing of the tendency in twi for "leadership" to slap the adjective "spiritual" to anything- as if it changed the properties. vpw himself said that, if you took a jar of pickles, and changed the label to "apple butter", that didn't change the pickles on the inside. However, that's exactly what he did. lcm did the same- thus, he'd freak out about something, yell about it at length, then, when he was in control of himself again, announce that the preceding tantrum was actually "spiritual anger"- thus, not a tantrum at all. I'm forgetting a lot of the more common examples. I do remember that- in the late 80s- I'd gotten so tired of the "spiritual noun" business that I started to make fun of it. I ran into another college-age person at an ROA who seemed to be in a good mood. I said he looked like he'd had "a spiritual bl**j**." He cracked up at that, more to the nerve it took to make that joke than anything else, I suspect. It's coming back to me how much "spiritual whatever" was in twi. For a time, that seemed like a piece of any long discussion. "Where's he going to fit that phrase in his teaching?" Not a very long time for me, but then I was out of twi shortly after that, so if they kept it up for the next decade, it's not like I would have known.

So, you're saying that Mr "I hate Roman Catholicism so much that I ranted if my original congregation even had a Christmas tree in their house", Mr "Let's Put an anti-Roman Catholic book in the twi bookstore" turned around and copied the Roman Catholic Church to get people to stand when he entered the room?

No, and you missed a clue.

That's him. He's been in a lot of stuff, and none of that was what he's best remembered for at all.

That last line sounds familiar, but I'm not getting the song from it.

How about "QUANTUM LEAP"???

He was a spaceship commander and I thought he might have been considered a federal agent. In retrospect, that last part doesn't apply.

Everything useful on the topic's already been said! :) It was vague so twi could make it mean whatever they wanted, to get people to do whatever twi wanted them to do, which was usually to promote twi, run classes, etc.

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I'll give you another minute, then I'll post more clues or something.

Well, a man's house is his castle...is it "CASTLE?" What else was Nathan Fillon in? I think there was a cop show.... "The Rookie?"

It was TheEvan. 1/17/2005. On page 3 of the thread, "Craig and VP's relationship." "Back to Leonard. Being cataloger of old photos and such, surely you are familiar with the photos of Wierwille's first two "PFAL" classes? Well, most everybody was, as they were published often enough. Did you ever see the rest of them? Like the ones picturing the water baptisms? I did. But i didn't see them in Da Way. I saw them in some old newsletters displayed at BG Leonard's 90th birthday party, which we hosted for him. I was just casually leafing through some old ones and you can imagine the jolt I got when my eyes landed on a familiar picture. It was the old "1st Piffle Class" photo I'd seen so many times. As you know, Wierwille had recently taken Leonard's class. He returned to O-hiya to teach Leonard's class with Leonard's blessing. The accompanying article was about this Rev. Wierwille teaching CTC's Gifts of the Spirit course to members of his congregatin in O-hiya. Hmmm. Turns out wierwille lied to the man, co-oted the man's work as his own. FAMILIAR PATTERN!"

It was TheEvan, not dmiller, who posted it. "Back to Leonard. Being cataloger of old photos and such, surely you are familiar with the photos of Wierwille's first two "PFAL" classes? Well, most everybody was, as they were published often enough. Did you ever see the rest of them? Like the ones picturing the water baptisms? I did. But i didn't see them in Da Way. I saw them in some old newsletters displayed at BG Leonard's 90th birthday party, which we hosted for him. I was just casually leafing through some old ones and you can imagine the jolt I got when my eyes landed on a familiar picture. It was the old "1st Piffle Class" photo I'd seen so many times. As you know, Wierwille had recently taken Leonard's class. He returned to O-hiya to teach Leonard's class with Leonard's blessing. The accompanying article was about this Rev. Wierwille teaching CTC's Gifts of the Spirit course to members of his congregatin in O-hiya. Hmmm. Turns out wierwille lied to the man, co-oted the man's work as his own. FAMILIAR PATTERN!" (From the thread, "Craig and VP's relationship", page 3. 1/17/2005)

BTW, TheEvan's post was on the thread "Craig and VP's relationship?" and was about 1/2way down the 3rd page. Craig and VP's relationship? - Page 3 - About The Way - GreaseSpot Cafe