WordWolf

WW: You stated he was "born with an overabundance of brains and brawn." You stated that he was "OVERgifted." Mike: "I also stated, and several times (and several times ignored by you) that a lot of people in the top 1% genetically are in that category. I identify him as being in the smart tail of the bell curve. Thereare many millions of such people. I was just saying, in a poetic way, that he was not averageC." The thing is, Mike, you're putting him in "the top 1% genetically." The man's demonstrated accomplishments are- STATISTICALLY- strictly average. That's not opinion- when charted, he fell in the middle of the bell curve, where most people fall. Statistically, that's not below average, but that's not above it, either. For that matter, saying that performance is "genetic" is not measurable without reams of data which neither you nor I, or the Census Bureau have. Performance can be measured, but not its reason. Is that why you keep invoking "genetics", because it's not disproven that he had good genes, so you're going to claim he did? They're a complete non-issue sinc they can neither be measured nor matter in any material discussion. WW: The man's brains and brawn were strictly average- as has been shown beyond any REASONABLE doubt. " Mike: "Oh MY! We have a difference of opinion. Know what I want to do about it? Debate it? I don't care about this issue at all. I said what I said 10 years ago, forget the context, and moved on. When are you going to be honest about this? HMMMMM?" You are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts. (DP Moynihan) When his performance was charted, it fell into "average", as it should have. I opened this up for discussion and possible debate if someone felt it wasn't definitive. I noticed a silence of disputing the facts. Oh, and let's be honest about things: You just said right now that you think vpw was in "the top 1%" when discussing "brains and brawn." There's no evidence to support this, and the evidence at hand is pretty consistent that he was pretty average. You're pretty emotional about how this plays out-vpw shown to be an AVERAGE athlete and AVERAGE student. Yet you insist you've "MOVED ON." WW: "You don't have "a healthy distance" from him." Mike: "He died 32 years ago! I have distanced myself from several aspects of his life and personality. What God worked out with him I admire and appreciate and celebrate. " You keep insisting an AVERAGE athlete and AVERAGE student was in the top 1%. Of a man whose life supposedly didn't rely on either. And he died 32 years ago. That's not a healthy distance.

Concerning vpw and whether or not he repented, I think it's good to go over what he said and did, and not what we THINK. In his final hours of life, one of our posters actually had interacted with vpw. vpw was dying of cancer. His "Law of Believing" had completely failed him, as he was unable to just believe away the cancer in a manner consistent with decades of his teaching. At moments like that, anyone would be thinking a lot about their mortality, about what they'd done so far, what would happen after they were gone, what they were to do now, in the little time they had left. vpw had plenty of time to think over the rapes, druggings, molestations, plagiarisms, abuses of alcohol and tobacco that led him to that moment. What was his overwhelming thought in what he was sure were the final hours of his life? He was reviewing it in his memory, and reviewing it more. According to him, he was trying to figure out when he'd displeased God Almighty that he was unable to believe himself healthy. He was unable to come up with ANYTHING, which is why he kept searching and searching. For those of you who skipped over that, let's look at it from another angle. Does God Almighty like rapes, ,molestations, druggings, etc? No, he does not. Do they displease Him? Yes, they do. Did vpw know this? vpw supposedly spent his life teaching the Bible and about what God Almighty wants. If vpw, after all that time, still didn't know those were wrong, then he had to have been quite remarkable as a figure of immense ineptitude among Christians. one who could preach that God Almighty was pleased by sinning and displeased by temperance. If vpw really DID know, then he was completely fooling himself as to whether or not his rapes, molestations, etc counted among the rapes and molestations to which God Almighty disapproved. Did vpw repent? vpw didn't even repent ON HIS DEATHBED.

"Remember when you were young, and you shone like the sun?" "Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky." "You were caught in the crossfire of childhood and stardom, blown on the steel breeze. Come on you target for faraway laughter, come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr, and SHINE!" "You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon." "Threatened by shadows at night, and exposed in the light." "Well you wore out your welcome with random precision, rode on the steel breeze. Come on you raver, you seer of visions, come on you painter, you piper, you prisoner, and SHINE!" Someone once said they had a school dance that was heavily monitored. The chaperones allowed the last song of the night to be a request. Someone requested this, and the kids had a slow dance that lasted about 8 minutes...and that wasn't even all the song. Including all the instrumentals and so on, it goes on for TWENTY-SIX MINUTES! (per Wikipedia.)

This particular show is "Get Smart" (Superagente 86, Mini-Max, etc, depending on the country and language.) I thought 86 meant to scratch an item off the menu because it's run out or something. *checks* Apparently, it's meant both.

Close enough. His name is "Nigel EXPOSITION." Your turn.

A lot more recent than WW&tCF, a LOT older than Deadpool. The movies don't revolve around this character. He gets lines like "Austin, the Cold War is over!" "Austin, we won!" And when discussing time paradoxes, he said the line up top.

You stated he was "born with an overabundance of brains and brawn." You stated that he was "OVERgifted." The man's brains and brawn were strictly average- as has been shown beyond any REASONABLE doubt. You don't have "a healthy distance" from him.

I don't remember that first clue, so it may not have been posted before. Was Mel Brooks involved with this one?

"Remember when you were young, and you shone like the sun?" "You were caught in the crossfire of childhood and stardom, blown on the steel breeze. Come on you target for faraway laughter..." "Well you wore out your welcome with random precision, rode on the steel breeze. Come on you raver, you seer of visions, come on you painter, you piper, you prisoner..."

I guarantee this band is better known than King Crimson. I can't name any of their songs. I own 2 albums from this band, and you might own at least one. You've almost certainly listened to them at some point.

No, a much more recent character. The 2nd sentence was directed at the 4th wall. Also, I posted a clue, and apparently, it was brilliantly concealed because you missed it.

Let's see who remembers this minor, but important, line of explanatory dialogue: " I suggest you don't worry about those things and just enjoy yourself. That goes for you all, too. :

vpw was casual about plagiarizing all through his "career" so long as he knew he wouldn't get caught. Remember how we were NEVER supposed to go to other versions, just the KJV and whatever he said it meant? Well, he said Philippians 4:13 meant "I am ready for anything and equal to anything through Him who infuses inner strength into me." There was even a song about it. Fans of the Amplified Bible would have found his statement interesting, to say the least. There, it reads: "I can do all things [which He has called me to do] through Him who strengthens and empowers me [to fulfill His purpose—I am self-sufficient in Christ’s sufficiency; I am ready for anything and equal to anything through Him who infuses me with inner strength and confident peace.] I'm sure fans of "his" "literals according to usage" should spend a lot more time in the Amplified Bible.

It means I've got you doing triples now, I need to think up the next round.

"You were caught in the crossfire of childhood and stardom, blown on the steel breeze. Come on you target for faraway laughter..." "Well you wore out your welcome with random precision, rode on the steel breeze. Come on you raver, you seer of visions, come on you painter, you piper, you prisoner..."

Even the handful of people who buy into Holocaust denial because vpw taught it, and vpw's ridiculous 1942 claim long after it was thoroughly discredited, and laud vpw as some great one, STILL reject Mike's claim that pfal replaced the Bible. There's a limit to how much Kool-Aid each person can drink, and they draw the line there if no further.

I'm speaking my peace. What, now I can't even give my opinion about TV without being controversial?

No, the social cohesion was working fine. You were looking at the wrong target. The people at the location the wows went to were expendable and faceless. The wows who went there on their own dime and ran classes that raised a tidy profit for twi counted-especially once some of them started tithing. (Their money is welcome at twi.) The cohesion was between the wow vets, corps grads, etc, not with the peons on the field. They only count for the income they bring in.

He never sees the difference. I've said that's what he's been saying for decades, as have others. He keeps accusing me of misrepresenting him. To him, disagreeing OR presenting evidence he's wrong is "misunderstanding" or "misrepresenting."

"The moderators" didn't change it. There's an option in forum software that can be set for any messageboard for what words are allowed. The GSC has a few words that are translated into non-curse words. So, talking about the Aramaic, you might end up with the "Pedangta text" (you know what I typed in all caps.) Similarly, a word associated with a cat or a willow is translated into "wimp" So, we end up with "upset" and "dang" and "wimp". Also, someone once told lcm to kiss their posterior, which renders as "I told him to kiss my foot." It could be a LOT worse. I've seen boards where you can't type "slut" and not have it rendered as "VERY friendly person". My favorite: "Meanwhile, back at stately Wayne Manor, Bruce Wayne and his faithful young ward thingy Grayson..." But moderators aren't going over all the threads and making changes, the software's doing that when you post.

Quite right! Correspondence schools don't have big graduating classes like Princeton Theological Seminary would be expected to have.

See what I mean, Rocky? If left unanswered, he will go on for HUNDREDS of pages like this and there will always be some excuse as to why he never actually made his point.

Keep trying, Rocky. It will help highlight that he will never actually DO IT. He responded to a point nobody made-in fact, the last post on this subject was by me, a few days ago, making the exact OPPOSITE point (I said that Princeton Theological was legit.) He responded to a point nobody made so he can claim he's too busy to actually make his case.